Phallosan Forte with TLC belt mod and my wrapping technique

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this thread is filled with helpful stuff. i have a knee strap from autoextender site but i never liked using it, the tension never remained consistent. i cant bleieve i didnt just order the tlc strap instead of the esl40 chest harness system. i just hope i don't get any soreness from this like i used to get using the jeans method.

do u think it should be more effective for length if i stay extended in straight up direction? my phallosan tension bar is weak, as i can get to red tension with just a weight of 2.5-3 pounds when its supposed to be double that.

dreamon and kickinthemebs, what is ur take on using the PF belt traditionally (to the side) without the comfort ring, i just tie the belt to the other thigh, i also use an extra rope with hooks that i got from either the autoextender site includede with the leg strap, or the esl40 site with the chest harness (i cant remember which one lol), so far its been great, i couldnt reach the other thigh without the rope now its perfect, but i'm wondering if it is being less or more effective towards lenght gains? it does make my thigh numb when i take off. maybe the low tension feature of phallosan would work better with just 1 side at a time (traditional way) instead of SU which im hoping to try out soon.

Dreamon, did u get any fatigue at the base after few hours of wearing phallosan with the leg strap? and did u get any fatigue in the backside of the penis while wearing it straight up using the jeans/dress pant technique?

I'm glad that you find this thread helpful! For me it doesn't matter which direction I stretch I get fatigued regardless of the direction, but here is an image I got from donjelqer76 that he made a while ago.hanging_angles.jpg

I hope that helps and I hope it's alright posting that image on this thread of course all the credit goes to donjelqer76.

I actually tried what you said on wearing the belt traditionally without the comfort ring but instead tied to thigh, but I didn't use any rope or hook I simply attached the Velcro strap on the belt looping around my thigh and it worked for me, but the problem with this is that over time the thigh gets irritated and numbed like you said due to the tightness of the strap and I didn't like how the Velcro is ruining the belt so in the end I just went back to the normal way again.

I definitely felt fatigue when I wore my esl40 knee strap all day long it felt sore all over the penis afterwards. I wore it straight down with the knee strap.

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I am totally in love with my esl40 knee strap I've worn the thing for 48 hours with only 5 hours of break that's spread throughout within the 48 hour. It is SO COMFORTABLE and I actually found a way to eliminate ALL tension change.

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I have worn the TLC belt strap for more than 200 hours now I highly recommend it if you ever buy a Phallosan Forte. It is the best belt available in the market right now. I can wear it during the day and during my sleep with the same technique. I simply wear the belt like how one would wear the Phallosan Forte comfort belt which is around the waist but instead of having a comfort ring the TLC belt has a clip just like the PMP expander belt which takes out the need of a comfort ring or anything similar to be able to wear the belt around the waist.

I wear my belt around the waist and I simply loop it around my thigh and it's so comfortable and gives PRECISE IMMOVABLE ACCURATE TENSION. Every Phallosan Forte owner should stop wearing their comfort belt that came in with the product and use the TLC Belt I promise you, you will NEVER regret it and just for about $13 shipping included it's definitely a win.

I can wear my Phallosan Forte now just like how it should be worn with the comfort belt BUT I can last for literally 18-24 hours with the device without feelings any discomfort AT ALL. Hell I bet if we didn't have to take a break to urinate then this thing could be worn 24/7 without ANY discomfort AT ALL.

So once again for all the Phallosan Forte users I highly recommend you ditch your belt and buy the TLC belt you won't regret it at all. This is coming from a guy who has 2700 hours experience with Phallosan Forte who tried various ways to eliminate all possible discomfort.


Edit: I forgot to mention, NO, I don't get paid to promote TLC's product nor I work with the company. This is my genuine sincere honest review and opinion about the TLC belt that they are selling.

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Really cool that the tlc strap is so comfortable, i got one allready, just didīnt think it would be better than the belt that came with the phallosan, will diffinetly give it a try. Dreamon, when you feel fatigued, is it in the ligaments and at the base? I have been wearing the phallosan for around 200 hours now, and the kind of tiredness i get is in the glans if there is any.

[kickinthemebs Senior Member Member of the Month Feb 2014 Find all posts View Profile Close kickinthemebs]

For myself, I get fatigue in different parts at different times to be honest. If I am going for large time-spans with lower tension I will get fatigue in the glans sometimes. What I am doing now is wearing it at a high tension (worked up to this for months), and my fatigue always is in my dick, along the shaft the opposite side that I am pulling (i.e. if extending to the right, then the left side of my shaft will get fatigued). My base around the ligaments usually get pretty fatigued when I start off at a new higher tension before I get used to it. It usually takes a week or two to adjust.

Dreamon, when you feel fatigued, is it in the ligaments and at the base? I have been wearing the phallosan for around 200 hours now, and the kind of tiredness i get is in the glans if there is any.

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Ok, for me, it is allways the glans which is getting sore first. What i have done to check if i was feeling fatigued, is to do a hard manual stretch after wearing the PF for 10 hours or so. So far i havenīt been able to feel that the base and ligaments was getting worked. Usually my glans is sensitive and have edema at this point. I stay at mid-low tension for large timespans for now. I hope that the constant low tension, not feeling much of a stretch, without reaching fatigue, will result in gains.
Kickinthemebs, so when when you start off at a higher tension, tiredness at the base is holding you back? for me it is because it will get to painfull for the glans in the vacuum. Basicly what im trying to figure out here, is if there is a correlation between if people feel fatigued and gains.

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You can have a look in my signature link man. I have loads of tips about my manual routine and also tips and pointers of my phallosan wear. It has taken me nearly 8 months and I am still only in the high yellow - low red tension at the moment. My approach is to try to max out all of my gains at a lower tension first. I only increase tension when there is minimal to no feeling of tension on my dick/ligs at that tension. I mark my belt with a marker to know what tension level I am at instead of going by the tension rig.

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*One tip, make sure the tension is being put on your dick rather than your hip or the tension is being lost on the tension ring. One way to do this is when you have attached the phallosan, grab the bell and lift it, then pull it a bit further over in the direction you are stretching so you can "feel" the tension more on your dick. Sometimes the tension gets lost otherwise.

[kickinthemebs Senior Member Member of the Month Feb 2014 Find all posts View Profile Close kickinthemebs]

Hey DreamOn, thanks for your post and your tips. One question, did you order the day or night-time belt?

I have worn the TLC belt strap for more than 200 hours now I highly recommend it if you ever buy a Phallosan Forte. It is the best belt available in the market right now. I can wear it during the day and during my sleep with the same technique. .

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Ok, for me, it is allways the glans which is getting sore first. What i have done to check if i was feeling fatigued, is to do a hard manual stretch after wearing the PF for 10 hours or so. So far i havenīt been able to feel that the base and ligaments was getting worked. Usually my glans is sensitive and have edema at this point. For me it is because it will get to painfull for the glans in the vacuum. Basicly what im trying to figure out here, is if there is a correlation between if people feel fatigued and gains.

I get it in the glans as well. In fact I am just finishing a two day break because of my glans. As I've said before in earlier posts, it gets all bedraggled and ill-defined. It also gets little markings on it. Seems to recover okay with rest, but does bother me.

I don't get any really symptoms of tiredness anywhere else. Maybe occasionally at the base.

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Kickinthemebs. I am just trying to figure out, what we different people, describe as fatigue. For example, many guys say they begin to feel fatigue at 10 lbs hanging, while for some the fatigue sets in at 20 or even 30 lbs. The generel idea seems to be a deep ache at the base and ligaments. So either people respond differently to the same amount of tension, or people have different ideas of what fatigue is. The former is probably the truest.
Your absolutely right about tension on the hip, i noticed it from time to time, i always pull out on the bell and try to make sure most of the tension is at the dick. I have also tried to put the belt at a higher angle, over the hipbone, that way it seems that i get a more even pull.
One thing i can add to the thread that might be usefull to some, is applying the knee and shoulder strap from the tlc company. I used the VLC tugger for about 2 weeks in january, before i got hands on the phallosan, it is a good ADS, but i got a small tear from it at my frenulum unfortunately. But i found out a way to get an even pull from the kneestrap, i think you could do the same with the phallosan.

1. secure the clip from the strap, to the tension clip.
2. pull the strap, at a desired tension, just under the knee, from the inside and around.
3. once the strap has made its first turn, fold it over itself and do another 3/4 turn.
4. At the end of the 3/4 turn, fold the strap over itself a couple of times and pull the remaining part up the tension clip and attach the clip to the beginning part of the strap.

That way you get a pull from two angles, which makes it more constant and with more tension.
Hope it makes sense.

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Really cool that the tlc strap is so comfortable, i got one allready, just didīnt think it would be better than the belt that came with the phallosan, will diffinetly give it a try. Dreamon, when you feel fatigued, is it in the ligaments and at the base? I have been wearing the phallosan for around 200 hours now, and the kind of tiredness i get is in the glans if there is any.

I get fatigued at the base and sometimes at the shaft, I also get sore at the glans after wearing it for long periods without any break (6-8+ hours). The edema builds up at the glans after a while but it goes away really quick for me for 30 minutes to an hour usually.

Hey DreamOn, thanks for your post and your tips. One question, did you order the day or night-time belt?

I ordered the day time belt there is really no difference between the two the ONLY difference is the placement of the needle pin where you strap the end of the belt (like how PMP expander works). I recommend you order the day time belt though because that's what I bought and it works for me for both day time and sleep time wear.

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There are few members here that asked me what exactly it looks like when I am wearing the TLC belt with the PF. I am not comfortable enough to show my dick to the world yet, but I will try to find an alternative way to show a picture of exactly how I wear the PF with the TLC belt mod. Please, believe my words guys I am genuine about what I said here I believe that the TLC belt is the BEST BELT IN THE MARKET. I highly recommend this product and I even dare say that every Phallosan Forte owner should ditch the belt that came in with it and use the TLC belt.

I will post a picture of what it looks like when I am wearing it without any nudity or any pictures of my dick so everyone can see just exactly why I support this product so much and why I love it so much. I pretty much wear it the same technique as how you would normally wear the PF with the comfort belt WITHOUT the ring. Instead, I loop the belt around my thigh and attach the end of the belt that has the clip on the needle pin that is also attached somewhere in the belt depending whether you have the day time or night time belt. I could wear the PF in one side without EVER having to switch because there is no more ring attached at the base of my dick. I'm sorry if I can't explain it well enough for some of you but I will try to post the picture soon so that everyone can see the brilliance of this belt.

AND YES its as stealthy as ever I could wear it with even tight jeans and NOBODY would detect it because it is being worn like how the traditional way you wear the Phallosan Forte JUST MINUS THE RING.

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The TLC strap is such a steal for $7 and ultimately $13 with shipping included are you freaking kidding me?!?!?! And it's better than ESL40 knee strap, PMP expander belt, PF belt, etc. This belt is the KING OF ALL PE BELTS OUT THERE.

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Oh and once again I would like to thank pizard for suggesting and introducing me to the TLC strap I could never thank you enough man you are the best!!!!!