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  • #16
    You should be scared of PE- it's one of the dumbest fucking things anyone can ever do.

    This site is the ultimate in bro-science BS. I gained in EQ and girth by adopting a healthier diet, quitting smoking and drinking and exercising more often and more intensely. So try that if you don't already do it.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by MeWorldwide88 View Post
      You should be scared of PE- it's one of the dumbest fucking things anyone can ever do.

      This site is the ultimate in bro-science BS. I gained in EQ and girth by adopting a healthier diet, quitting smoking and drinking and exercising more often and more intensely. So try that if you don't already do it.
      Yeah, that's why we have 1.5+ million posts from 153,000+ members...everyone's here to waste their time!-NOT! LOL!

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      • #18
        Originally posted by MeWorldwide88 View Post
        You should be scared of PE- it's one of the dumbest fucking things anyone can ever do.

        This site is the ultimate in bro-science BS. I gained in EQ and girth by adopting a healthier diet, quitting smoking and drinking and exercising more often and more intensely. So try that if you don't already do it.
        Did someone get some bad milk with their cheerios this morning? Hmm, so you devote a partial year to PE, if you tried at all and have personally determined that PE is BS Bro-Science. Well sir, I an 56 years old and I certainly am not a "Bro" and I have seen many benefits to the routines recommended on this site. I have better EQ, better performance, longer in length, wider in girth and have a terrific sex life with my wife. Therefore, I see things a little different than you. You can also spend days reading others success stories and maybe learn from them what the key is to doing this correctly. Or, you can give up, throw your hands in the air and proudly yell this is BS. Frankly sir, I disagree with you.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by MeWorldwide88 View Post
          You should be scared of PE- it's one of the dumbest fucking things anyone can ever do.

          This site is the ultimate in bro-science BS. I gained in EQ and girth by adopting a healthier diet, quitting smoking and drinking and exercising more often and more intensely. So try that if you don't already do it.
          Have you attempted any prolonged training? Even if you don't train for "enlargement" purposes there are exercises like kegels which can yield ancillary size gains while increasing EQ and ejaculatory control.
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          • #20
            I'm starter of this thread. I posted test when I was just starting manual pe and read injury stories. Now that I've done mainly manual stretches for 10 months I have healthy fear of PE. I realize there is a change of injury, but I feel I've quite good understanding what my penis can take. Start slow and build knowledge and skill how to exercise.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by TheZZMan View Post
              Did someone get some bad milk with their cheerios this morning? Hmm, so you devote a partial year to PE, if you tried at all and have personally determined that PE is BS Bro-Science. Well sir, I an 56 years old and I certainly am not a "Bro" and I have seen many benefits to the routines recommended on this site. I have better EQ, better performance, longer in length, wider in girth and have a terrific sex life with my wife. Therefore, I see things a little different than you. You can also spend days reading others success stories and maybe learn from them what the key is to doing this correctly. Or, you can give up, throw your hands in the air and proudly yell this is BS. Frankly sir, I disagree with you.
              The TheZZMan strikes! Well said!!! I'm in you older category and can attest to the same benefits you quote. My wife can attest to my gains in length and girth, which she can see, feel and which she definitely enjoys. Our sex live is much improved with greater intimacy and tenderness. There is also some good input here in the Gym from great posts by MrsL4M and Kimberly to mention just two of our contributing gals!
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              • #22
                Replying to my old thread.
                I have not done any regular PE for a long time. But I do little manual stretching almost daily to keep my gains. Allthought gains are long ago cemented so it is useless. Few days ago I did about 5 mins of flaccid or almost flaccid dry jelqs with stretch after each stroke. Not gripping hard but at the end had to grip harder to not to slip when stretching. I had done these before and have not had bad adverse effects but sometimes temporary dimished EQ. My goal with these is/was to push blood to glans and make internal lengthwise stretching.

                Right after that I finded it difficult to get erection. I managed to get one finally. Normal nightly erections few nights after that. Then when it was time to have sex last night what pops into my mind?! "What if I have done damage to my penis with that jelqing flaccid penis for 5 mins" and of course my dick didn't work. Managed to get erection at last but I had premature ejaculation beceuse of probably tense pelvic floor and it was dense due to anxiety.

                I am not too worried as I know for 99% that there is no damage but I can't do jelqing because I fear it. I don't fear stretching and actually it just improves my EQ. When I was hanging my dick got through abuse and survived. So it does not get permanent damage from flaccid jelqing 5mins.

                All this year my dick has worked like a dream. Very easy erections just by thought and no touch needed. Very hard and lasting erections and good control to ejaculation. And quite, but not completely, satisfyed with size. My woman say she is completely satisfied. So when I jelqed and this dimished my EQ I thought "why the fuck I had to do that when I had perfectly working dick".
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                Last edited by Trapezius; 08-05-2019, 02:04 AM.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Trapezius View Post
                  ...So when I jelqed and this dimished my EQ I thought "why the fuck I had to do that when I had perfectly working dick".
                  If the way you jelq diminishes your EQ then you're doing it wrong.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Big Al View Post
                    If the way you jelq diminishes your EQ then you're doing it wrong.
                    Jelqing diminished my EQ a little, but after the resting days my EQ was much better.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Big Al View Post
                      If the way you jelq diminishes your EQ then you're doing it wrong.
                      I think I did it just too hard to my current stamina. Squeezed too hard or then it is the stretch at the end of stroke. It was a long time when I did these last time. Before I have done these maybe more easily just to move a blood little bit after stretching session. Kind of cool down move. Internal pressure was not sky high because there was not blisters or anything and I've had them in glans before during PE career from stretching. But I feel for some reason pelvic floor tightened from this exercise.

                      I do jelqs 0-20% erection so it is flaccid or almost. Dry jelqs with one hand and uncircumsized so only foreskin moves. Squeeze little harder than what it would take to brake an egg and slide towards glans 3-4s. Blood moves forward even when flaccid but you must squeeze enough to move blood. Then when just before coronal ridge I squeeze harder that grip does not slip and do short 1-2 second stretch. Difference to normal stretch would be only that there is more blood in the end (glans). My idea is that blood would internally stretch CC chambers length wise.


                      Yesterday EQ was nearly back to normal. I keep to stretching methods, edging and kegels from now on. Or do you think jelqing is must? Probably not a must because you have also "jelq free routine".
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                      Last edited by Trapezius; 08-06-2019, 04:46 AM.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by justanormaldick View Post
                        Jelqing diminished my EQ a little, but after the resting days my EQ was much better.
                        Originally posted by Trapezius View Post
                        I think I did it just too hard to my current stamina. Squeezed too hard or then it is the stretch at the end of stroke...
                        As per: Before starting any male enhancement routine- please read!:

                        For jelqing and stretching type movements begin with less intensity than you'd ordinarily use to masturbate.

                        ...

                        As your conditioning and body awareness improves you can add intensity in a prudent manner. This same advice applies if you've trained before but have taken a long break.


                        Emphasis in bold above.

                        If you're not mastering the form and feel of the exercise and you begin to build upon this faulty form, then the best case scenario is you don't get as much out of the exercises as you could- with the worst case scenario being EQ issues and injury.
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Big Al View Post
                          As per: [B][URL="https://www.pegym.com/forums/challenges-anxiety-depression/96976-please-read-first.html#post1307821"]
                          If you're not mastering the form and feel of the exercise and you begin to build upon this faulty form, then the best case scenario is you don't get as much out of the exercises as you could- with the worst case scenario being EQ issues and injury.
                          Big Al, what do you think are good exercises if going only for better EQ? Is jelq necessary at all?

                          How about this kind of plan to maximize EQ;
                          1. kegels done right amount to keep those muscles strong
                          2. Edging so that there is as much erections as possible. Isn't erection by itself training to smooth muscle and harder erections?
                          3. Keeping yourself fit and good health. Good aerobic fitness.
                          4. Healthy diet

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Trapezius View Post
                            How about this kind of plan to maximize EQ;
                            1. kegels done right amount to keep those muscles strong
                            2. Edging so that there is as much erections as possible. Isn't erection by itself training to smooth muscle and harder erections?
                            3. Keeping yourself fit and good health. Good aerobic fitness.
                            4. Healthy diet
                            The above looks good.

                            LIGHT jelqing can be conducive to goiid EQ, and you'd slowly build up in intensity and reps as your conditionign improves. This way, you'll ensure you're training safely and keeping EQ at the forefront of your objectives.
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                            • #29
                              Is jelqing after edging a good idea ? Or a big no no?

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Herstelle 199 View Post
                                Is jelqing after edging a good idea ? Or a big no no?
                                Most would find it difficult to jelq immediately after edging.
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