Tommy Lee's size and more lies

[HotLatino73 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close HotLatino73]

Guys, its all about natural selection. If the "average" was 8 inches, all men would be wanting a 10 incher.

@itwaswritten

I don't know where you read those interviews, but that sounds ridiculous. Where did you read that? Some website also trying to sell you "male enhancement" pills?

Those sites prey on male insecurity. Don't fall for it.

Sure, size queens do exist, but they are in the minority. And frankly, that kind of shallowness is not what you want in a woman, cause that's just that's just the tip of the iceberg.

[ItWasWritten Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ItWasWritten]

Guys, its all about natural selection. If the "average" was 8 inches, all men would be wanting a 10 incher.

@itwaswritten

I don't know where you read those interviews, but that sounds ridiculous. Where did you read that? Some website also trying to sell you "male enhancement" pills?

Those sites prey on male insecurity. Don't fall for it.

Sure, size queens do exist, but they are in the minority. And frankly, that kind of shallowness is not what you want in a woman, cause that's just that's just the tip of the iceberg.

I can't remember the exact website, but I've read similar things on PenisSizeDebate.com. It says on there that the average woman can handle 9 inches, and true size queens can handle up to 12 inches. I've heard woman say things like this in real life too where I work.. that ideally they want at least 9 inches. I am a long, long way off that. The website has a lot of information on it and it looks pretty legit.

[Steve23 Retired ModeratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Steve23]

Lol. Just because they can handle that doesn't mean they all want it. You can fit about 10-12" in your ass, want it?

[ByggD Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ByggD]

When you think about it, most men are within a certain range because nature thinks that is ideal.

"Ideal" is not the word I would use, but you are talking about natural selection. Just because something exists today does not mean it is ideal. Evolution doesn't really care about euphoria. I hate being anthropomorphic, but it explains it well enough.

Variation in penis and vaginal size varies just like infertility varies. It is just the way our world operates. It is the same with the rest of our body. The human body is riddled with potential complications--look at all the people replacing bone, tissue, cartilage, and muscle, for example--and considering 60 new gene mutations come from parents, every new generation offers incredible difficulties in solving the genetic code because it is constantly changing. However, we are close to solving a lot of these riddles. Tangent: scientist have successfully mapped the genotype of a poodle and a beagle. That is incredible! Source:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3088050/ns/health-pet_health/t/scientists-map-dogs-genetic-structure/

FYI, if you have yet to come in contact with me, I would like to point out that I trend tangential. I love science and discoveries. I studied cognitive neuroscience in college and I have my degree in psychology. I am going back to school to get a second degree in biology and I will most likely be applying for graduate school after that. In short, yeah, I am crazy because there is nothing more I would love to do with my life the study the human condition and find answers to complicated questions.

[ByggD Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ByggD]

Back to the topic. The main point of my OP is somewhat hidden. The point I want to make clear is that Tommy Lee didn't think he was huge until porn stars told him so. That means one of three things: 1) Tommy thought he was small, 2) Tommy thought he was average, or 3) Tommy really didn't give it any thought because he could sleep with a lot of girls just because he is popular.

He never thought he was huge until someone told him so. Now, here at the forum, I am want to make it very clear that if you are over 7" you should be considered, and you should consider yourself, very big. It is big, porn stars think it is big and they see more cock than anyone else.

I am feeling more confident these days, but penis enlargement appears to be my avarice. Still shooting for 8.25" or a little more.

[Hanma Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Hanma]

I can't remember the exact website, but I've read similar things on PenisSizeDebate.com. It says on there that the average woman can handle 9 inches, and true size queens can handle up to 12 inches. I've heard woman say things like this in real life too where I work.. that ideally they want at least 9 inches. I am a long, long way off that. The website has a lot of information on it and it looks pretty legit.

That website is riddled with fallacy. Do not believe it. It says in one of its pages that "An average woman can fit 10"x8" when fully aroused". Really? That'd be sliding her internal organs to the side as the dick forces its way in. Well fine, let's assume an average woman can fit that much. Does it mention that she will enjoy it without crying or bleeding internally without making it look like "Alien" just got a hold of her body? Shucks no.

Also, where you work, if they're talking shit like that near you and you can't get out of that place, just do this: "Now that you ladies have finished telling the world how stretched out you are, I need you to do some things (File some papers etc etc)". Then bring them a baguette and show them what a 12 inches or 9 inches really looks like.

Anyone got some bright ideas?

[Rando Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Rando]

Someone mentioned in another thread that the male forearm is about 9-11 inches long. Mine personally is 9 inches from my wrist to the crook of my elbow, and it looks freakin' long! Anytime someone spouts off about 9 inches (or more) I'm definitely mentioning the length of my forearm and making them understand just how ridiculously long 9 inches actually is.

[Cdn Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Cdn]

To chime in on the evolution of the human genitals the dick is in all reality not that important.

Ball size now that stuff matters, bigger balls = more sperm = more chance of pregnany = evoultionary win.

To point out how this works in humans and other apes gorillas got small balls literally. Males also don't compete with mates.
Bonobos and chimps bsically live in a free love society and have huge balls proportionally so they can out compete other males.
Humans are in the middle.

Now for penis size, gorillas are again the smallest. Here's where it gets messed up, bonobos are small, chimps are meh and humans are titans (proportionally speaking). So penis size is rather irrelevant in the idea of reproduction.
Think of penis as the plane that drops a bomb, who gives a shit if its a boing 747 or a cesna as long as it gets the job done.

Sexual selection is strongest in humans for a larger penis size, however (no hate here please) after 200,000 years of human evoulotion the average size is between 5 and 6. This indicates that deviating from this range drastically (micro penis or the 12 incher) is extremely bad and has been bred out of the population.
Very similar to heights, most people fall withina small range and then it tapers off. There is a reason for this as it balances metabolic needs with reproductive sucess.

Not to insult the believers among us but mother nature knows what the fuck is up and your penis has been passed down for the past 200,000 years so yah it works.

[HotLatino73 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close HotLatino73]

I agree, anything between 5-8 inches should be pleasurable for a woman and functional for its intended purpose. Any significant deviation from that could cause issues.

[HotRod Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close HotRod]

Howard Stern wouldn't stop talking about Tommy Lee when that Pam and Tommy video came out. Check this out...I saw all of this on Stern's show way back in the mid-1990s....

Stern has always been open about having a 5" penis. He had a contest on his show back in the 1990s to find the man with the smallest penis. They got a couple good candidates to show up and the winner was a guy with a 1.5" penis. You couldn't even see it flaccid through his pubic hair. They fêted the man, lavished him with attention from super hot models, and partied like crazy. He was a total sport and had a great time.

Anyway, back to Tommy:

I specifically remember Howard Stern saying, "Hats off to Tommy Lee, he's a bigger man than me," or something like that, and they were talking about how Tommy had a 7 inch penis. Now get this...

Stern had Richie Sambora (Bon Jovi guitarist) on that same show and he was trying to get Richie to come out with his own stats. Richie refused to talk about it because he was married to Tommy Lee's ex-wife, Heather Locklear at the time! Howard Stern, piece of work. He's got this guy on his show and he's telling him what a big dick his wife's ex has and just rubbing it in his face, trying to get Sambora to compare his dick to Tommy Lee. He kept pushing the question, wanting to know if Richie "measured up" in Heather's eyes, but Richie wasn't having any of it.

[Rando Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Rando]

Good points Cdn, compared to other primates, humans have gigantic penises, but people still feel insecure over it. I think it's a matter of you always want what you can't have. If the average penis size is 5 inches, everyone wants to be 7-8 inches. If the average penis size were 7 inches, everyone would want to be 10 inches and so on. The penis size debate is more about psychological issues that express themselves in different methods (for men, penis size is common, for women it might be weight or breast size) than it is about the actual functionality of the penis b/c nearly all penises are perfectly fine for their intended purpose.

Genetics is always pretty interesting and I wonder how penis size has evolved since humans have been around. I'm guessing the first ones were pretty much the same size or very slightly larger than apes and since then, size has probably grown nearly 100% as the larger ones have been more favored for passing on genes.

[HotRod Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close HotRod]

AHEM!

I should add that I think Stern actually did a great service to most men, by just being real about who he was. I remember him talking very openly and plainly about his penis size in the mid-1990s and he was totally cool about it. He was always trying to get guys on his show to talk about their size - sort of a coming out with it ritual, and I think it probably did help some guys feel a little more normal.

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Good points Cdn, compared to other primates, humans have gigantic penises, but people still feel insecure over it. I think it's a matter of you always want what you can't have. If the average penis size is 5 inches, everyone wants to be 7-8 inches. If the average penis size were 7 inches, everyone would want to be 10 inches and so on. The penis size debate is more about psychological issues that express themselves in different methods (for men, penis size is common, for women it might be weight or breast size) than it is about the actual functionality of the penis b/c nearly all penises are perfectly fine for their intended purpose.

Genetics is always pretty interesting and I wonder how penis size has evolved since humans have been around. I'm guessing the first ones were pretty much the same size or very slightly larger than apes and since then, size has probably grown nearly 100% as the larger ones have been more favored for passing on genes.

Good post and without intent you just legitimized all those who have seven inch wangs but still want eight inches, so its not always about attention for the well endowed to want an even bigger schlong dangling low.
I still must say that it is funny that we as men say woman have know damn clue about penis size estimating but yet again we are all saying that Tommy lee doesnt have a monster, we say hes in the average range, I am not any better at estimating cock size from a picture but I think hes hung like a bull elephant from what I saw.
What I see here is the pot calling the kettle black and I am laughing out loud. I would say that if any of you have said that the woman dont know size but you do I ask how is that?
Is it really so terrible for most of you(I didnt say all) to say you just dont have as much cock as Tommy Lee, well ya dont now do ya, and the prick was banging Pamela Anderson....when she was still in her hot ass prime, the lucky big dicked SOB.
Not trying to start anything, I am just saying the hypocracy can be confusing sometimes, just remember that when a gal says shes seen a huge one dont go telling her she cant tell by looking, of course she can cause it seems like everyone here is able to!
Just saying.

[Cdn Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Cdn]

Genetics is always pretty interesting and I wonder how penis size has evolved since humans have been around. I'm guessing the first ones were pretty much the same size or very slightly larger than apes and since then, size has probably grown nearly 100% as the larger ones have been more favored for passing on genes.

Thats a pretty tough problem to solve. Sound theory but it ignores natural selection in favour of pure sexual selection. In reality its a mixture of the two. So if I had to warrant a slight educated guess I would say your right but no where close to a 100% increase more like 50% at best (sameas general body size increase).

Also we can predict what will happen now, since natural selection is no longer much of a factor sexual selection will be all that matters. This would suggest that penis size increases gradually but heres the problem. Evoultion can only occur in small populations that do not interbreed.
Humans now basically live in one giant population with interbreeding occuring across continents, this means that even a strongly favoured trait (8 incher) will take forever to spread. Especially if monogamous marriage sticks around.

Example. Guy with 8 incher has 3 kids who also have 8 incher, they have 9 then 27 etc. My little example her takes apprixmately 80 years if we assume they have kids at 20 years old. Since its unlikely size is completely dependent on how big dad is this situation is like the fastest increase possible which is highly unlikely.

We also consider that theres more average guys always having kids a well. And there are more of them meaning that even as more of the big guys are produced more of the "normal" guys are produced keeping the proportions approximately the same.

Assuming guys with bigger dicks have more kis than an average guy the trait does increase in size over time, but ridculously slowly and the bigger the population the slower the change.
Also evolution prefers continous small change over rapid change unless the situation is extremely dire, so its likely the growth will be in the low Mm mark every generation and not like a 1" increase every time around.

So in conclusion your dick will be fine from now until you die and then some, in 100,000 years not so much. Got a time machine you might be in trouble.

[HotRod Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close HotRod]

On Topic: Tommy Lee vs. Richie Sambora

Howard Stern wouldn't stop talking about Tommy Lee when that Pam and Tommy video came out. Check this out...I saw all of this on Stern's show way back in the mid-1990s....

Stern has always been open about having a 5" penis. He had a contest on his show back in the 1990s to find the man with the smallest penis. They got a couple good candidates to show up and the winner was a guy with a 1.5" penis. You couldn't even see it flaccid through his pubic hair. They fêted the man, lavished him with attention from super hot models, and partied like crazy. He was a total sport and had a great time.

Anyway, back to Tommy:

I specifically remember Howard Stern saying, "Hats off to Tommy Lee, he's a bigger man than me," or something like that, and they were talking about how Tommy had a 7 inch penis. Now get this...

Stern had Richie Sambora (Bon Jovi guitarist) on that same show and he was trying to get Richie to come out with his own stats. Richie refused to talk about it because he was married to Tommy Lee's ex-wife, Heather Locklear at the time! Howard Stern, piece of work. He's got this guy on his show and he's telling him what a big dick his wife's ex has and just rubbing it in his face, trying to get Sambora to compare his dick to Tommy Lee. He kept pushing the question, wanting to know if Richie "measured up" in Heather's eyes, but Richie wasn't having any of it.

AHEM!

I should add that I think Stern actually did a great service to most men, by just being real about who he was. I remember him talking very openly and plainly about his penis size in the mid-1990s and he was totally cool about it. He was always trying to get guys on his show to talk about their size - sort of a coming out with it ritual, and I think it probably did help some guys feel a little more normal.

Okay, I did some poking around and Howard Stern apparently had to wait almost 9 YEARS before he could confirm that Richie Sambora actually did measure up to Tommy Lee. He did it directly with Heather Locklear on September 13, 2004 when she admitted that Richie "has girth."

This is a blurb about his show from 09/13/2004 when he had Heather Locklear on:

"Howard mentioned that Tommy Lee had Heather's name all over his book. They spent a minute talking about that and Heather said that she thinks she's got more money than Tommy does. She said that Tommy had a lot of money at one point but he must have gone through it. Howard asked Heather about her relationship with Tommy and if she believes that Tommy could have been abusive with Pam Anderson. Heather said that she would step away from that question because she wasn't there to see it. She did say that Tommy was always ''at eleven'' all of the time and he could never chill out. She said he was very ''tiring'' but he never abused her. She kind of alluded to the fact that he ''abused'' her with his big penis. She said he's not the biggest she's had though. Howard figured that Richie has a big one as well. She didn't want to get into that because Richie has a daughter. She eventually said that Richie does have ''girth'' and couldn't believe that actually came out of her mouth. Howard couldn't get off the subject and asked her about Tommy Lee's penis. He wondered if she was shocked when he pulled his pants down for the first time. She claims that she wasn't shocked at all."

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