Claims and Gains

[Closed039 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Closed039]

And of course the question is, why would you ever lie about your gains? It seems absolutely ridiculous - you'd really have to be a fucking loser.

[DemOne Banned Find all posts View Profile Close DemOne]

And of course the question is, why would you ever lie about your gains? It seems absolutely ridiculous - you'd really have to be a fucking loser.

Now that's a question that will never have an answer. It's just like those 13 year old kids who talk like they're badasses on XboX Live or kids with facebooks trying to act like gangsters.

People do dumb shit trying to get attention to boost their egos.

[Gravik Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Gravik]

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Same reason why people lie about their size too.

[TheSnitch Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close TheSnitch]

We don't request you post pictures of before and after to make a claim, but we should be cataloguing verified gains (how verification works, I don't know) in order to quantify data and give people realistic time lines for progress and exercises that work.

This is NOT a business, but it doesn't mean we can't provide customer service like data and material to new people. The better we do as heralds of PE the more men can benefit from it's PROPER use and can hopefully boost some confidences, save some marriages, ease some anxiety in a growing population of insecure men.

I would absolutely love to be able to say to a new comer with real data in my hand "If you work at it and follow this routine you can expect ..... in .... time - in 86% of men this is the case." Something like that.

I would be very interested in getting some people on board for some real data collection, hammer out best practices with measuring and recording, weeding out what exercises are superfluous and finding a real gain/time graph our new members and lurkers and really hold on too for inspiration and guidance.

[superpp Member Find all posts View Profile Close superpp]

I still don't see how people can gain 1.5" in length and 1" girth in 3 months. When I see those results, I smell BS.

This maybe possible Length wise but 1inch in girth hmmm.....or someone may gain alot of length in 3months and not much girth, or alot of girth but little or no length.....but when people lie about 'gains' THEY ARE SIMPLY FOOLING THEMSELVES......i am also a newbee but i have common sense and if i have doubts i will ask [most are willing to help anyway!!!! ], plus i would sometimes try the 'more is more' and sometimes 'less is more'.....if i stretch and i get a bit sore i ease up, if i feel like i didnt get a good work out i go harder or lengthen the session a bit... If i dont feel like doing PE i rest do nothing at all and let the body heal.... FOR THE ORIGINAL POST.....Thanks for making us NEWbeeS a bit more cautious....

[Gravik Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Gravik]

This maybe possible Length wise but 1inch in girth hmmm.....or someone may gain alot of length in 3months and not much girth, or alot of girth but little or no length.....but when people lie about 'gains' THEY ARE SIMPLY FOOLING THEMSELVES......i am also a newbee but i have common sense and if i have doubts i will ask [most are willing to help anyway!!!! ], plus i would sometimes try the 'more is more' and sometimes 'less is more'.....if i stretch and i get a bit sore i ease up, if i feel like i didnt get a good work out i go harder or lengthen the session a bit... If i dont feel like doing PE i rest do nothing at all and let the body heal.... FOR THE ORIGINAL POST.....Thanks for making us NEWbeeS a bit more cautious....

In 3 months? Then they would have to be pulling on their dick 24/7.

[superpp Member Find all posts View Profile Close superpp]

@ Gravik - in 3 months? 24/7 pulling?? No, well realistically i think they would have to be very serious and listen to their body for negative PIs to not injure themselves with that said they probably can follow the JP90 program and light Extender use maybe like 15mins use three times daily, take the supplements, light exercise, live healthy [no smoking...limit drinking] Sleep alot, drink loads of water, add glans exercises, squeezes....pretty much get alot right and do it consistently and they would have a chance with fast gains - from what i have read ITS NOT RECOMMENDED......so Young PE'ers take your time.....oh im resting right now my GLANS are a bit sore from pulling/stretching maybe a bit to hard...yesterday. Almost forgot....this person would have to dedicate themselves completely to PE, live by themselves and i guess they would be unemployed to have all this time to PE !!!.....or umm.... {long pause} JUST LUCKY

[thenewdude Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close thenewdude]

That's right! Do it for you because you want a bigger penis whether it is because you lift weight and need to even it out with the build, have a smaller than average member, need to look proportionate to your height (me) or EGO is the final motivator. If you do it for your gal then I am afraid you don't understand her that well. She is with you because it is you she loves, if not then kick her to the curb.

[malehanger Banned Find all posts View Profile Close malehanger]

PE is something we do for ourselves. Please don't give me that beautiful line I've heard a million times :"I'm doing it to make my partner more satisfied"! You want to make her more satisfied? Buy her a Lexus. If she's our partner, and I don't know what my partner thinks but she must be nuts to be with me, she's already satisfied. ( and I didn't even buy her a Lexus). We do it for us!

My name is Malehanger, and I approve of this message! Indeed, PE is something we should all be doing for ourselves. Too bad so many of us appear to be "ashamed" of our penis and PE. Women do plenty to their own bodies for themselves and their own selfish, vain reasons. It's just our human nature, embrace it. I recently read about a guy on another forum who wanted to suddenly pursue PE because his girl supposedly cheated on him with some guy who supposedly had a bigger penis. That is one of the worst excuses I have seen for pursuing PE. There are much deeper issues going on (dump her??) when someone cheats. Again, do this for yourself guys!

I also agree with the original message of the OP. Then again, anyone can claim anything they want to on the internet. Just look at a site like lpsg.org That place is nuts. It's run amok with guys claiming sizes that would land any of them in the Guinness book many times over.

[ColtAR-15 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ColtAR-15]

I still don't see how people can gain 1.5" in length and 1" girth in 3 months. When I see those results, I smell BS.

Hell, I gained 1.5" by 1" in one month. If it takes someone 3 months their doing something wrong. As long as your dedicated and persistant anything is possible. The wife is now saying she is being "filled" and satisfied. The technique is a secret though. Lol.

[Cya at 8 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Cya at 8]

I gained 3" x 1.5" in 3 mins!! All you have to do is watch porn!

[amiok Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close amiok]

Hell, I gained 1.5" by 1" in one month. If it takes someone 3 months their doing something wrong. As long as your dedicated and persistant anything is possible. The wife is now saying she is being "filled" and satisfied. The technique is a secret though. Lol.

Funny Colt lol

[CUSP82 Administrator Admin of the Month Dec 2014PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close CUSP82]

I rest my case. Just damn silly!

[Going411x7 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Going411x7]

Yup guys we see it all the time here. I got 2 inches overnight after jelqing for 45 seconds. True? Well many of us may discount it and even ridicule the poster. Hell it may be true! We live in a world where anything is possible. Is it likely? Nope it isn't likely but no one can say it's not true for certain. Hell there are millions who think none of this is true or even possible so what are we doing here? Well I came for the cookies; you all know that.

PE is something we do for ourselves. Please don't give me that beautiful line I've heard a million times :"I'm doing it to make my partner more satisfied"! You want to make her more satisfied? Buy her a Lexus. If she's our partner, and I don't know what my partner thinks but she must be nuts to be with me, she's already satisfied. ( and I didn't even buy her a Lexus). We do it for us!

Since this whole thing is done for us we do have certain responsibilities.We must know what we're doing; read, ask questions, follow directions. It's our responsibility to do so. How many guys have injured themselves here because they didn't do any of the above? Lots and it will continue no matter how many times we warn them.

Sometimes when a story of good gains is posted we do one of two things; make fun of it or try to copy the routine that was used. Well making fun of it really does nothing except cause hard feelings. Hey it may even cause a hard flaccid. Since none of us can be 100% sure of the gains the poster made why start a fight? What we're going to teach him or call him a troll or full of shit? Can anyone tell me what good that will do?

When I see gains that may be out of what I think is normal I'd rather congradulate the guy and ask him for his routine. This gets back to the responsibilty thing I said before. I might like to make those gains but me myself has to determine if this routine I'm viewing is more than I can handle and may result in a injury. I really don't want to injure my best friend; besides I use him way to much to want to put him on the disabled llist for a few weeks.

All kinds of gains are possible; pe isn't exactly a science yet. Read about those gains. Ask questions. Determine if what the guy who made the gains does is right for you. Always do it with the risk of injury on your mind. Remember well that what works for one may not work for another. If you think the gains are pure bullshit , well then just keep it to yourself. Remember we're here for us, no one else, and we should be happy for what others have done.

Thoughtful, wise advice. Bravo, Cuspie.

[Handcramp Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Handcramp]

Don't ever apologize for having a healthy skepticism. "Skeptical" does not mean you won't believe anything, though that's a meaning implied by many today. The value of expressing some skepticism is in that it is a way to prompt an advocate of a claim to defend that claim with evidence. Many a hapless grad student has had to face a merciless grilling when the time comes to defend his or her thesis. The grilling is to make you demonstrate you know what you are talking about; that your claims are supported by your evidence.

The common experience in PE is tiny fractions of an inch over months. So somebody shows up saying they got 2-3 inches in a year or less, or maybe even got those 3 inches in two years, but did it by doing intensive, risky PE nonstop (no breaks). Instantly you can hear the rushing of newbies to try what the claimant says he did; even vets do the same thing. I've seen this phenomenon in old threads at Thunder's Place. In the months that follow, it seems you only hear the sound of crickets in the room, since there's no flood of incredible success reports.

When most of us struggle for even 1/8 inch in a couple of months or more, it's natural to have doubts. The red flags really rise when the claimant has something to sell--that's when it's even more reasonable to ask for something like good photos. 'DLD' is a shining example of someone who inspires great skepticism if his past history is looked at closely. And despite his lofty claims of gains, 'Bib' has steadfastly refused ever to submit photos of any sort. At least there is a large user-base of his hangers who can recommend them if you want to go that route. But that should not cause anyone to dismiss outright the potential of natural penis enlargement. Far too much success has been had over the years by members here and elsewhere if personal anecdotes are sufficient to motivate you to try. It's what got me started several years ago, and I am about a skeptical as they come. I took a chance, and ended up proving to myself that at least a modest degree of measurable enlargement can be made to happen, however the hell it actually works. Still, my first reaction is always some questioning when really big claims are offered. I think that is a healthy approach to life in general. Show me the facts, baby!