Best "Average Size" Poll I've Seen

[ColtAR-15 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ColtAR-15]

Wow, this seems too low. I do know that Dr. Oz said that the avg penis is 5.4". I thought that was too low to be accurate.

According to this site, anyone with 7" or bigger is in the top 1%!!! Can that really be true?

If were talking BP I totally don't buy the 5.4" figure. I also don't believe that 7" BP is in the 99th percentile. I think 70th percentile is more accurate but I personally believe it to be somewhere in the 60% range. I just don't think 7" BP is all that uncommon. I would like to believe it is just like I would like to believe a 5" EG is in the 65th percentile but I just don't think it is so.

[ColtAR-15 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ColtAR-15]

I still think it is as simple as guys with bigger dicks are more likely to talk (post) about them.

I was just thinking of editing my post to include that before I just read yours. Yep, that could be another factor.

[TheSnitch Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close TheSnitch]

For every guys with a 7x5.5 that's out there banging chicks, there is a dude with a 5x4.5 hanging out in his room playing MMO's or Call of Duty.

[Rando Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Rando]

I really thinkthat the average girth is right at 5 or maybe a little bit less. I simply don't think the average girth can be close to 5.5 inches otherwise the regular size Trojan condoms would be for guys with about 5.5 inches girth and Magnums would be even larger. The regular size Trojans are for the common guy and you can fit in them with as little as 4.5 inches. You can fit into Magnums once you hit the 5.2-5.3 range (or so I've read). Magnums are not all that common and girls are more impressed when they find out a guy wears Magnums so it stands to reason that 5.3 inches and above for girth is very uncommon and puts you in rare territory.

I will admit though that the signatures and polls taken from members on this site do make it seem like 5 inches girth is on the smaller side, it's a phenomenon that I guess is difficult to explain, but in the end, all you have to look at is condom sales. Guys at 5.5-6 inches girth always lament that there aren't many options and they're often left with ill-fitting condoms. Surely if these sizes were merely average or slightly above then the condom manufacturers would have multitudes of options for them, right?

[4Samson Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close 4Samson]

Good point on the condoms. At 5.5 I dont fit into some regular condoms depending on the brand. If that was close to average than an average size condom should fit no problem. I'm sure condom companies make a lot of money from their sales and doubt they have been accidentally making them the wrong size all this time.

[Rando Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Rando]

I still dont understand those with desires to go to 9"-10"+ and massive girths. Why would you want to be bigger than what can fit in a mouth or vagina? I hate to make the generalization that they have ego or insecurity issues but other than those I cant see a reason for it. I have recently started pe and have been thinking about my long term goals if this works for me. Honestly I'm worried to go to 8x6. I'm around 7x5.5 (bpel but im skinny and my fat pad is minimal) and with my increased EQ since I started, lately I've been looking at my erection thinking "hmmm do I really want to go much bigger than that?"

I totally agree with this, at first I was thinking the magic 8x6 would be my ultimate goal, but now I think I'd be ecstatic with 7.5x5.5 and probably try to maintain that. 8 or 9 inches BPEL is nice to look at and probably a huge visual turn on for ladies, but why would I want to be so long that there's no chance I could go balls deep and oral would also suffer.

[arkham Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close arkham]

Sorry for little off-topic

I think that chase aftrer having a big penis is a legacy of times when we were still climbing trees and brandishing with our dicks in order to chase of potential rivals

And back to the main subject

I belive that the reason why so many "girthy" people visit this forum is what ColtAR-15 mentioned.

1) This place has a knack for attracting guys with large girths ( possibly due to the larger girths making them look shorter)

[totalpackage Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close totalpackage]

If were talking BP I totally don't buy the 5.4" figure. I also don't believe that 7" BP is in the 99th percentile. I think 70th percentile is more accurate but I personally believe it to be somewhere in the 60% range. I just don't think 7" BP is all that uncommon. I would like to believe it is just like I would like to believe a 5" EG is in the 65th percentile but I just don't think it is so.

Coltar -- We have all heard you make this argument several times. It is bordering now on statistical paranoia. You don't seem to believe any statistic offered to you.

We are all insecure about our sizes, and that insecurity tends to make us doubt the statistics, but c'mon, you can't believe this is all some huge conspiracy. I don't see why you can't just accept the Thunder's poll (The significance of Thunder's Place PE Data stats - Thunder's Place Free Penis Enlargement Forums) and the Thunder's analysis of all the studies (Penis Size: The True Average - Thunder's Place Free Penis Enlargement Forums).

These each show that 6 bpel and 5 mseg are about average.

[ColtAR-15 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ColtAR-15]

Good point on the condoms. At 5.5 I dont fit into some regular condoms depending on the brand. If that was close to average than an average size condom should fit no problem. I'm sure condom companies make a lot of money from their sales and doubt they have been accidentally making them the wrong size all this time.

Good points about the condom sizes. To tell you the truth the biggest factor in why I am skeptical of the published averages is from reading things on this forum. Its hard not to have doubts when you see one newbie after another reporting 5.5"+ EG. I used to think it was much more uncommon. I know I have said this before but I have dificulties feeling even average since coming here. I have been told several times that I don't look small (girth or length) by members comments on my album but the photos just don't seem to represent what I see myself. Regardless of what it looks like in photos I still only measure 5" EG. (i.e. in all liklihood not the preferred or optimum size of most women) 5" Eg or less still works and can still bring women to vaginal orgasm but 5.5 " would in all liklihood do a better job doing it in my opinion. Just a unfortunate fact that us smaller guys have to deal with. Unfortunately sometimes I do not deal with it as well as others and I applaude the guys even smaller that still have a good attitude about it. If I thought that "average" EG (4.8" - 5") was the optimum size ( the size that typically causes the most pleasure) then I would probably be content with it. But I know that typically that is not the case based on all I have read here. Sorry for the rant. It's been a while since I have had one so I guess I was due

[ColtAR-15 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ColtAR-15]

Coltar -- We have all heard you make this argument several times. It is bordering now on statistical paranoia. You don't seem to believe any statistic offered to you.

We are all insecure about our sizes, and that insecurity tends to make us doubt the statistics, but c'mon, you can't believe this is all some huge conspiracy. I don't see why you can't just accept the Thunder's poll (The significance of Thunder's Place PE Data stats - Thunder's Place Free Penis Enlargement Forums) and the Thunder's analysis of all the studies (Penis Size: The True Average - Thunder's Place Free Penis Enlargement Forums).

These each show that 6 bpel and 5 mseg are about average.

Yes those studies do all say that but it is also plausible that they are not accurate due to various reasons. I do think that 6" length is probably pretty close but am inclined to believe that is closer to NBP than BP. My skepticism of the girth figures are primarily based on my experience here. These are just my opinions and I have no animosity for those that choose to have full confidence in the studies.

[Jelqinator Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Jelqinator]

I've thought along similar lines Colt, but I've decided that without deluding myself I'm gonna be realistic.

I only take into account people who have posted properly measured pictures (A guy that posts a picture with no tape/ruler and says he's 8x6 means nothing to me).
I realise that the pictures on this site are always going to be full of the larger end of the spectrum, nobody is going to post a picture of themselves if they feel truly insecure about their size.

[totalpackage Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close totalpackage]

Yes those studies do all say that but it is also plausible that they are not accurate due to various reasons. I do think that 6" length is probably pretty close but am inclined to believe that is closer to NBP than BP. My skepticism of the girth figures are primarily based on my experience here. These are just my opinions and I have no animosity for those that choose to have full confidence in the studies.

Just to be clear, I'm also inclined to believe that 6" is not totally bone pressed. Most of the professional studies probably pressed a bit into the fat pad (it's hard not to press at all), but did not come close to touching the bone. So I would add about .5" to each professional study.

That yields an average of about 6.3" BPEL. And guess what? That is consistent with just about every poll on this site, Thunder's, and the penis Visualizer. These polls are completely anonymous and are performed by a large sample of people with clear measurement standards. I find that very reliable. So yes, 7" BPEL might not be the 90%. Maybe it's closer to 80%. Whatever the case, it's a good amount above average.

As for girth, every single study/poll to use mid-shaft finds the average a tad below 5" and every one to use base/max girth finds the average to be about 5.2". I think it is safe to say the average is no where near 5.5".

With all of this evidence, you would really have to paranoid not to feel confident that the average penis is around 6.0-6.3" BPEL, 5.0-5.2" BEG, and 4.7-5.0" MSEG.

[thatnewnew Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close thatnewnew]

Just to be clear, I'm also inclined to believe that 6" is not totally bone pressed. Most of the professional studies probably pressed a bit into the fat pad (it's hard not to press at all), but did not come close to touching the bone. So I would add about .5" to each professional study.

That yields an average of about 6.3" BPEL. And guess what? That is consistent with just about every poll on this site, Thunder's, and the penis Visualizer. These polls are completely anonymous and are performed by a large sample of people with clear measurement standards. I find that very reliable. So yes, 7" BPEL might not be the 90%. Maybe it's closer to 80%. Whatever the case, it's a good amount above average.

As for girth, every single study/poll to use mid-shaft finds the average a tad below 5" and every one to use base/max girth finds the average to be about 5.2". I think it is safe to say the average is no where near 5.5".

With all of this evidence, you would really have to paranoid not to feel confident that the average penis is around 6.0-6.3" BPEL, 5.0-5.2" BEG, and 4.7-5.0" MSEG.

keep in mind guys with small dicks are not going to be as willing to get measured. saying base is 5.2 on avg would mean the avg man would be able to fit into a magnum(not snug but without slipage). Why would condom brands use mseg? the part that causes slipage/discomfort is the rubber ring right?

[ColtAR-15 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ColtAR-15]

Just to be clear, I'm also inclined to believe that 6" is not totally bone pressed. Most of the professional studies probably pressed a bit into the fat pad (it's hard not to press at all), but did not come close to touching the bone. So I would add about .5" to each professional study.

That yields an average of about 6.3" BPEL. And guess what? That is consistent with just about every poll on this site, Thunder's, and the penis Visualizer. These polls are completely anonymous and are performed by a large sample of people with clear measurement standards. I find that very reliable. So yes, 7" BPEL might not be the 90%. Maybe it's closer to 80%. Whatever the case, it's a good amount above average.

As for girth, every single study/poll to use mid-shaft finds the average a tad below 5" and every one to use base/max girth finds the average to be about 5.2". I think it is safe to say the average is no where near 5.5".

With all of this evidence, you would really have to paranoid not to feel confident that the average penis is around 6.0-6.3" BPEL, 5.0-5.2" BEG, and 4.7-5.0" MSEG.

Believe me I would love to believe all of this but I have always been a serious skeptic and not just with this one issue. More than a few times in the past my skepticism has proven to be right. The average size skepticism was primarily brought out due to forums such as this and everytime another newbie shows up with a 5.5" EG it erodes what remaining faith I have in the accepted averages. Everytime I start to believe I am average another one, or two or three show up and the skeptical side of me reveals itself again. I guess I can hope most are lying but why would they. I just don't want to delude myself and believe I am better off than I actually am. My motto has always been hope for the best but prepare for the worst. Maybe that explains some of my psychology.

Lets say you live in a town where virtually every male is 6 ft plus yet you are told the average height is 5'8. The studies seem to say one thing but in your world your observations, perception and intuition all tell you something else. I think that pretty much sums up my thought process on this whether it is rational or not. I would really love to have the faith in these numbers that others do, but it just doesn't seem to be in me. I think another thing is that among all my friends that I have seen in the buff or urinating when I was younger, without exception every one of them appeared to have a significantly larger flaccid. Especially in girth. If the surveys are accurate what are the probablities of this. Yea I know all about the flaccid size doesn't always translate well to erect size but that only goes so far.

[Crunch Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Crunch]

The average size skepticism was primarily brought out due to forums such as this and everytime another newbie shows up with a 5.5" EG it erodes what remaining faith I have in the accepted averages. Everytime I start to believe I am average another one, or two or three show up and the skeptical side of me reveals itself again. I guess I can hope most are lying but why would they.

Colt- It's possible that they/we aren't lying, but that even on a PE site, you're still looking at a really biased version of what's out there. I posted in another thread a few days ago that there seems to be sort of a middle ground for penis size where you're large enough to get occasional comments, but thanks to the blasted internet and its monster d**k banners, you never feel that deserving, yet you feel like it's one of the things you *had* going for you. Hate to be a "big d**k complainer", but there are times I feel like that "just above average" range is more trouble and more likely to lead to obsession than being average.