Best "Average Size" Poll I've Seen

[benschmidt Senior Member Member of the Month July 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close benschmidt]

Yeah, assuming penis size is 'normally distributed' (follows a perfect bell-shaped curve) would put me at 1 in more than 30,000 for length. Which I sure as hell don't believe, as awesome as it would be if true! Penises at the high end of both length and girth are probably a bit more common than you'd expect from a normal distribution, quite possibly as a direct result of PE. I mean, if one man in 1,000 has attempted some form of PE, and grows an inch or so over a PE career of a couple of years, well some of those guys will have been quite big to start with - and while the effect on the average size will be infinitesimal, it will significantly increase the number of guys in the higher size categories which, by rights, should be rarer than hens' teeth.

You do bring a good point, but 1 in 30,000 may not be crazy. That means there are, in the US alone, 10,000 people who match or better your stats, which are quite impressive. There are not a lot of people who can top that, but thanks to porn, a lot of people think an 8" prick is average, not to mention false advertising, most 12" dicks in porn are really more like 10", just on a shorter guy makes it look big. If Hollywood can make Tom Cruise look 6 ft. tall, then porn can make a 10" look like a 12". As for the girth, yeah, you are bigger than 99%. But this all applies to everyone, we all tend to short ourselves on what we have.

[Ivor Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Ivor]

You're average. The deviation listed means 'give or take'. So you would fall in the average range.

It amazes me how many people don't understand what 'average' means. An average is not a range or a give-or-take interval: it is a precisely defined value. If a survey finds that average penis length is 5.8", then it's 5.8", not some vague range half an inch either side. And a 6" penis is, according to the results of that survey, (very slightly) bigger than average.

Of course, it's still well within one standard deviation of the average, which is what people mean by being in the 'average range'. But the average is a single number, not a range.

[Ivor Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Ivor]

You do bring a good point, but 1 in 30,000 may not be crazy. That means there are, in the US alone, 10,000 people who match or better your stats, which are quite impressive.

Well I can think of 'members' both here and at Thunder's Place who are bigger than me right off the top of my head, and I sure as hell don't have 30,000 (let alone 60,000) guys' stats memorized. Of course guys who are members of a PE forum are not a randomly selected sample of the male population but that's exactly my point: the fact that PE works and has a small but dedicated following has probably dramatically increased the number of guys towards the very large end of the spectrum (even if they are still, in the scheme of things, pretty rare).

[BTBrian Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close BTBrian]

Ivor you are right it's impossible to know if penis size follows a normal bell curve or not. I honestly don't think it's a stretch to believe you'd be 1 in 30,000. No guys view themselves as big as they actually are though of course, that's pretty clear! As ben pointed out, that would still mean there are 10,000 guys your size or bigger in the country. Think about this: has any girl you've been with had a guy bigger than you?

[BTBrian Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close BTBrian]

Well I can think of 'members' both here and at Thunder's Place who are bigger than me right off the top of my head, and I sure as hell don't have 30,000 (let alone 60,000) guys' stats memorized. Of course guys who are members of a PE forum are not a randomly selected sample of the male population but that's exactly my point: the fact that PE works and has a small but dedicated following has probably dramatically increased the number of guys towards the very large end of the spectrum (even if they are still, in the scheme of things, pretty rare).

Wouldn't that also increase the average size in surveys too though?

[benschmidt Senior Member Member of the Month July 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close benschmidt]

I wonder what the average among those who PE regularly? I don't know if a pole would give an accurate number, since as it was mentioned, those at the high end would presumably be more likely to answer it.

[Ivor Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Ivor]

Wouldn't that also increase the average size in surveys too though?

Yeah, but only by a tiny, tiny amount. Too little to notice. Think about it: whether 9" dicks occur once in 30,000 guys or once in 3,000 guys is not going to make any measurable difference to the mean size in the general population, but in the latter scenario 9" dicks are 10 times more common than in the first scenario.

And that's assuming 'average' means 'mean' - if we're talking about the median then extreme outliers, either big or small, make no difference at all.

[Ivor Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Ivor]

Ivor you are right it's impossible to know if penis size follows a normal bell curve or not.

I think for things like this the bell curve is a good description for the majority of the population, up to a few standard deviations from the mean. Possibly not so accurate as you go towards either extreme. Take height as an example: midgets are much more common that you'd expect if height were perfectly gaussian, because their lack of height is caused by a hormone deficiency or whatever - it's not 'common or garden' shortness. So the bell curve is a poor description of height stats for unusually short people (and I wouldn't be surprised if unusually tall people are more common than a bell curve would predict, too).

Then there's the effect of PE. According to the stats in this thread, 8" or above should occur with a frequency of about 1/400 while for 9" it's about 1/30,000. So out of a population of 1 million men, you'd have 2,500 who are 8"+ and 33 who are 9"+ (who are also included in the 2,500, of course). But if just 1% of those 8" guys (i.e. 25) took up PE and gained at least an inch, that would almost double the number of 9"ers.

Think about this: has any girl you've been with had a guy bigger than you?

Not that I know of, but then I haven't had as many partners as some guys here have. In any case, I'm a sample of one, which is not a robust sample size!

[benschmidt Senior Member Member of the Month July 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close benschmidt]

I don't think a lot lot of people have had enough partners to have a good grasp of average size. Sample sizes would be too small. Also, I don't think a lot of people measure their partners.

[Ivor Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Ivor]

Plus it's reasonable to assume that bigger guys are likely to get around more than smaller guys - especially with the advent of internet dating, swingers' social forums and so on in recent years - so it's perfectly possible that the average size of the average woman's previous partners is a bit bigger than the actual average size.

[BTBrian Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close BTBrian]

Plus it's reasonable to assume that bigger guys are likely to get around more than smaller guys - especially with the advent of internet dating, swingers' social forums and so on in recent years - so it's perfectly possible that the average size of the average woman's previous partners is a bit bigger than the actual average size.

People say that and I definitely understand why people would think that but I seriously doubt it. People who are insecure about there size are usually above average to big. And I don't have anything to back that up but on this site most of the guys who claim to be super insecure tend to be bigger and I've also read an article written by a doctor claiming that the vast majority of patients that ask about increasing their size are already fairly well endowed in the first place. Also in my personal experience, I know a guy with a supposedly tiny dick who gets tons and tons and tons of ass and of all my other friends who get lots of tail I have never heard of any of them being large.

[jcwhs7 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close jcwhs7]

Do all these studies measure using bone press method or not bone press?

[helpmeout Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close helpmeout]

bone press. I've heard of swingers saying the average penis of all their experiences is about 5" nbpel too. So I doubt it.

[jcwhs7 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close jcwhs7]

bone press. I've heard of swingers saying the average penis of all their experiences is about 5" nbpel too. So I doubt it.

so if the average length is 5.8 bone press, then that means the nbpel is equal to 5.2-5.4in around there?

[Ivor Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Ivor]

People who are insecure about there size are usually above average to big. And I don't have anything to back that up but on this site most of the guys who claim to be super insecure tend to be bigger

I seriously doubt bigger guys are more likely to be genuinely insecure about penis size than smaller guys. A lot of 'insecurity' threads are just attempts at fishing for complements, all this "oh noes I'm only 7 inches, will I ever be able to please a woman" rubbish. Whereas a guy with 4.5", the one with the real insecurity, is probably put off from posting at all by exactly this sort of nonsense.

I've heard of studies that show a (small) correlation between dick size and number of partners. The fact that you know a smallish guy who gets lots of pussy is one piece of anecdotal evidence and doesn't prove or disprove anything. Hell, I've been with a total of seven women ever, so I'm not arguing from my own experiences here.