My history and future roadmap for my PE (opinions wanted)

[IdealPenis Senior Member Member of the Month Feb 2019 Find all posts View Profile Close IdealPenis]

Congrats on your progress and the recent experiences.

It sounds good. I am happy to hear all that.

By the way, what is PYT?

[ZeNigmar Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ZeNigmar]

Congrats on your progress and the recent experiences.

It sounds good. I am happy to hear all that.

By the way, what is PYT?

Pau Yuen Tong

It is a old chinese balm consisting of a few oils, mainly clove and a form of Ginseng. If you apply a little amount ( the size of a ricegrain) on the back of our glans and leave it for 2 hours, it kind of desensitizes the area (numbing effect of cloth). It is the only numbing ointment i ever tried and by far the most cost-efficient and one and the one with the least side-effects. Also not numbing the partner ( the partners dont even notice the presence of anything applied to the penis even with blowjobs)

[ZeNigmar Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ZeNigmar]

Hey members of this forum, short update.

This weekend she was over again, we hung around and eventually had sex in the night. i applied PYT at 9:30PM she came over at 22:30PM at 11PM i washed it off. around midnight we had sex, before that she gave me a massage. I lasted as long as i want and had a mindblowing orgasm while she did ride me really fast.

In the morning we mingled a bit, i fingered her and she gave me a blowjob for 5 minutes which did lead to voluntary orgasm, then we watched stupid youtube videos together.

strangely i don't feel like preE affects me at all right now. Surely, PYT gave me some headstart but i feel like i last considerably longer. It may be because of the tightness of the pussy, the fact that im wearing a condom and my solid mindframe.


Anyway next weekend she may come over again, she seems to enjoy the service ;-). Seriously though, i am not ready for another relationship right now, thats why i wanna look out for her not catching too much feelings for me.

[Anklepain Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Anklepain]

Hey members of this forum, short update.

This weekend she was over again, we hung around and eventually had sex in the night. i applied PYT at 9:30PM she came over at 22:30PM at 11PM i washed it off. around midnight we had sex, before that she gave me a massage. I lasted as long as i want and had a mindblowing orgasm while she did ride me really fast.

In the morning we mingled a bit, i fingered her and she gave me a blowjob for 5 minutes which did lead to voluntary orgasm, then we watched stupid youtube videos together.

strangely i don't feel like preE affects me at all right now. Surely, PYT gave me some headstart but i feel like i last considerably longer. It may be because of the tightness of the pussy, the fact that im wearing a condom and my solid mindframe.


Anyway next weekend she may come over again, she seems to enjoy the service ;-). Seriously though, i am not ready for another relationship right now, thats why i wanna look out for her not catching too much feelings for me.

Nice, contractulation. Do you feel any different when using PYT. Or do you feel like normal but you just last longer.

[ZeNigmar Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ZeNigmar]

Nice, contractulation. Do you feel any different when using PYT. Or do you feel like normal but you just last longer.

I feel exactly the same mentally and bodywise. Its just the desensitizing effect on the backside under my corona which effects me in lasting longer. The orgasms are stronger if you reach them with PYT.

There are no skin irritations, no pain, no allergic reaction or anything. The girl did not notice anything too because i washed it off over an hour before which is a good time. I feel really comfortable with the situation at the moment. Especially to have sex with her in the morning without aid after you already put out the stud moves the night before is a gratyfing feeling.

BTW.. i still do alot of harnstring and hipflexor stretches due to kickboxing and olympic weightlifting... at least 3 times a week.

[Anklepain Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Anklepain]

Its just the desensitizing effect on the backside under my corona which effects me in lasting longer.

I dont understand this. I only know what is corona. Do you mean the corona area that is near downside? That area is frenulum?

[ZeNigmar Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ZeNigmar]

I dont understand this. I only know what is corona. Do you mean the corona area that is near downside? That area is frenulum?

So if you have an erection and you look down to your penis, you see the backside of your glans..if you retract your foreskin (or if you are cut) you will see that where your glans ends you got the shaft which the glans transitions into. This transition, for me, is the sensitive part of my penis that causes my kegel reflex to spasm and signal ejaculation. So i apply a bit of PYT to this tranisitioning area and to my frenulum - the little string of skin on the other side of your glans.

[Kakal Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Kakal]

Really happy for you man.

Sounds like you've got it sussed out. I'm curious to how much of it is actually the balm or if a lot of it is mental now.
Sounds like either way it's working well for you.

I should update my log but since the server lost my very lengthy previous update, I've not been super motivated to rewrite it all out!

I still got my PYT, might play around with it again. I never did quite get the amount right though and had mixed results!

[Cachitotto Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Cachitotto]

So if you have an erection and you look down to your penis, you see the backside of your glans..if you retract your foreskin (or if you are cut) you will see that where your glans ends you got the shaft which the glans transitions into. This transition, for me, is the sensitive part of my penis that causes my kegel reflex to spasm and signal ejaculation. So i apply a bit of PYT to this tranisitioning area and to my frenulum - the little string of skin on the other side of your glans.

Hey Zenigmar,
I have had great results with PYT but lately a couple times it has had no effect and I came really fast. Can you remember from which seller you bought the one is working for you? And for how long have you had it? Im trying to determine if it looses efectiveness significantly in a couple months.

thx bro

[ZeNigmar Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ZeNigmar]

To you Cachitotto. I bought it from the UK on Ebay. It was around 13€.

A little update on my overall life with premature ejaculation.

I have never felt as free as mentally stable as right now in my life. Everything seems to be going great.

I still do sports and all my stretching routines of the hip due to kickboxing tournaments. They did not have a great effect on my overall performance on sexual interaction. My nutrition experiments neither.

When it comes to sex. Not only do i have the abundance of options when it comes to chicks at the moment,
but i also am a good lover and unfortunately women fall in love with me then and now in which case i kindly turn them down due to personal beliefs.

I still use Pau Yuen Tong. It is a wonderfull little creme. It also works consistenly. It also does not cost much. It also doesn't have to be mentioned.
there's a few people here that will tell you how to apply.
As for my case of PE it got a bit better because my mental state is at its very best. When i sleep over at the chicks places i usually have sex in the morning too.

In that case i DO NOT use PYT. If i wear a condom i can actually last 5 minutes or so and if they go to complain i have a second round or joke about how they can never get enough.

Don't become a substance addict to PYT i would say. Now and then have sex without it, it makes you feel free if it goes good.


I dont want to turn anyones motivation down but i will also add that i do not think that my case of PreE is curable at all by classic forms of training discussed here, but i got it under control with PYT and second round and other little etc..
There is nothing bad about admitting this. A lot of the population wears glasses or they would run on a bus in the streets. We humans can adapt to a lot but using tools is just a part of us. I definitely can say that it is not my discipline. I had stopped all porn and stuff for a long time too but now occasionally indolge again.

See you next time

ZeNigmar

[Johnny D ModeratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Johnny D]

I dont want to turn anyones motivation down but i will also add that i do not think that my case of PreE is curable at all by classic forms of training discussed here, but i got it under control with PYT and second round and other little etc..
There is nothing bad about admitting this. A lot of the population wears glasses or they would run on a bus in the streets. We humans can adapt to a lot but using tools is just a part of us. I definitely can say that it is not my discipline. I had stopped all porn and stuff for a long time too but now occasionally indolge again

From your log it appears you spent only a couple of months edging (always with the intent to ejaculate?) but went straight to desensitizing applications when with a girl. Never trying to bring what you're learning from edging into play with a partner. Am I correct?

[ZeNigmar Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ZeNigmar]

From your log it appears you spent only a couple of months edging (always with the intent to ejaculate?) but went straight to desensitizing applications when with a girl. Never trying to bring what you're learning from edging into play with a partner. Am I correct?

I had a girlfriend for more than one year before that and an internet thing even before that where i had tried several methods. From my experience it did not give me any siginificant benefit that i could report of as improvement. The way my "dysfunction" works is also not really mental i guess.

I could enter a girlfriend and do all the foreplay stuff to her and all but when it comes to direct stimulation of the glans by friction, thats where the involuntary kegels hit me.

Also note that i wrote that i have sex without the balm in the morning with the same girls i had sex with in the evening before that. In the morning, due to your body still waking up, sensations are not intense - that makes it easy to last a bit longer than usual.