My take on PE. and how i cured it

[soon2bhuge Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close soon2bhuge]

Great info here guys, thank you!

Serious question: I've started doing hindu squats, I absolutely love them and am convinced they're helping a ton. BUT: when I'm down for minutes, I honestly feel like I could shit myself. And that isn't even with me pushing really hard.

[theGOAT Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close theGOAT]

Thanks for your contribution !

What do you think about squeezing your abs during sex?Thats what is causing RKs, right ?

[WillGetBetter Senior Member Member of the Month Nov 2018 Find all posts View Profile Close WillGetBetter]

Thanks for your contribution !

What do you think about squeezing your abs during sex?Thats what is causing RKs, right ?

Hey theGOAT,

Did you mean IKs = involuntary kegels, or RKs = reverse kegels?

[theGOAT Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close theGOAT]

Hey theGOAT,

Did you mean IKs = involuntary kegels, or RKs = reverse kegels?

Reverse kegels.He said in his initial post that he is putting pressure on his abs and this results in relaxing the pf/RK.I guess by putting pressure he means squeezing/tightening the abdominal muscles.

[Zero6283 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Zero6283]

Curious what your take on this problem im having is. I was doing yoga stretches and rks and seemed to be having some success. I cant ever go crazy and go as fast as I want but as long as I stay slow and controlled, remember my breathing and to control my arousal I can last alot longer than the minute man I was for years.
I felt like all my success came from doing rks. It took a little while to get them down but then I was able to hold lightly all day. I'd try to do them every chance I got when I could think about them. I've lifted weight for a while but never until about 6 months ago started doing squats and deadlifts. I have horrible form squatting any reasonable weight because my knee kicks in and my hips twist. I have had to squat an embarrassing weight to try and train my self to not do it and it still happens as I start to get fatigued. My hip flexors always feel weak and tight when I do squats but when I get on the machine for em I can do plenty of weight.

So the main question, for a couple days after I squat and my legs and glutes are sore I cant do a rk..... I can try and push and I do everything the same as I do other days but I cant get it to move at all from a rk until my soreness goes away. I definitly dont last as long in bed until I can start to rk again as well. This ever happen to you? Got any ideas on what it might be from?

[Trys Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Trys]

What about arousal? Do you let yourself being very aroused and still be able to last long or do you try to make yourself not that aroused or stay at very average? Obviously the more you are aroused the more fun you have but myself I just cum almost immediately when I'm very aroused.

[andrewvi7 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close andrewvi7]

Great info here guys, thank you!

Serious question: I've started doing hindu squats, I absolutely love them and am convinced they're helping a ton. BUT: when I'm down for minutes, I honestly feel like I could shit myself. And that isn't even with me pushing really hard.

Take a dump before you hindu squat like that, but that sensation is normal as your putting your PF in a stretched position and then RK it on top of that. Personally it's probably THE best way to stretch it so keep working on it, just try not actually shitting yourself haha.

Thanks for your contribution !

What do you think about squeezing your abs during sex?Thats what is causing RKs, right ?

I wouldn't RK during sex in the first place, and RK during sex for me is pretty much the same as a kegal during sex, brings me closer to PONR real quick. In the sack, only breathing will help, that's why RK's and APT training need to be done outside the bedroom.

Curious what your take on this problem im having is. I was doing yoga stretches and rks and seemed to be having some success. I cant ever go crazy and go as fast as I want but as long as I stay slow and controlled, remember my breathing and to control my arousal I can last alot longer than the minute man I was for years.
I felt like all my success came from doing rks. It took a little while to get them down but then I was able to hold lightly all day. I'd try to do them every chance I got when I could think about them. I've lifted weight for a while but never until about 6 months ago started doing squats and deadlifts. I have horrible form squatting any reasonable weight because my knee kicks in and my hips twist. I have had to squat an embarrassing weight to try and train my self to not do it and it still happens as I start to get fatigued. My hip flexors always feel weak and tight when I do squats but when I get on the machine for em I can do plenty of weight.

So the main question, for a couple days after I squat and my legs and glutes are sore I cant do a rk..... I can try and push and I do everything the same as I do other days but I cant get it to move at all from a rk until my soreness goes away. I definitly dont last as long in bed until I can start to rk again as well. This ever happen to you? Got any ideas on what it might be from?

Yes i have an identical experience i've gone into on previous posts. When you exercise you use a lot of your midsection for stabilization which explains why i've always had a tighter PF when coming out of the gym compared to when i was going in. On leg day, that is pushed to the extreme. The amount of abs that you use to stabilize your core under a heavy load in a squat is immense, on top of that, when you are pushing the load upwards you are performing a natural yet very powerful kegel The way i deal with it is as always, retract my lower spine back and force it into a neutral position while im walking back from the gym, then just RK until i feel a release. Usually it takes around 15min to fully release after leg day. If i do a good abs session however, even this doesn't help as much and may take hours to release... Just says how tight it can get, but that's something I persevere with and eventually is does release.

What about arousal? Do you let yourself being very aroused and still be able to last long or do you try to make yourself not that aroused or stay at very average? Obviously the more you are aroused the more fun you have but myself I just cum almost immediately when I'm very aroused.

Think of your stamina as a bucket which you are trying to fill with water. When you dont suffer from PE the bucket is large and can handle a lot of volume so even if you're aroused (more water pouring into the bucket) you can still handle it pretty well, for a time. But if you're a guy with extreme PE, instead of a bucket, you got a shot glass.... Anything more than a few pours will overflow the glass (and you will bust). So arousal does have a factor, sort of like a multiplier effect, but it's down to the PF that decides how much volume you can handle, whether it's a glass or a bucket... or in case of guys suffering from delayed ejaculation, it's like a goddam water silo haha. That's why they can be super aroused, and still not be able to cum for ages.

[theGOAT Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close theGOAT]

I am confused.In your OP you say that you use pressure in your abdominal to release the pelvic floor and now you say that after ab workout you feel very tight in the pelvic region and you need hours to release the tension.

[andrewvi7 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close andrewvi7]

I am confused.In your OP you say that you use pressure in your abdominal to release the pelvic floor and now you say that after ab workout you feel very tight in the pelvic region and you need hours to release the tension.

When specifically training abs, you will inadvertently tense the pelvic floor while working on your abdominals and that's why my pelvic floor feels so tight after a good gym session. So i make it my priority to workout my abs (which tenses the PF really hard), and then use my whole core after the workout to target my pelvic floor and release that tension while usually just walking. Does that make sense?

When contracting the abs extremely hard, usually you will contract the PF at the same time, but if the whole core is only slightly contracted to build a little pressure, i can still maintain a relaxed PF on which that pressure pushes against, stretching the PF.

[theGOAT Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close theGOAT]

Now understand, hard ABs contractions causes K, resulting in IKs, and slight contracting of ABs results in releasing and RKs

[andrewvi7 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close andrewvi7]

Now understand, hard ABs contractions causes K, resulting in IKs, and slight contracting of ABs results in releasing and RKs

It wouldn't start IKs out of thin air, but if i left the gym without releasing the PF, got aroused and got into bed with a woman i know for a fact from previous experience IKs would go wild and i wouldn't last a single thrust.

But making a habit of releasing the PF everytime it gets tight, forces the PF to lengthen and therefore relax. It's the same as working out any muscle hard, and then simply stretching that muscle after the workout, because if you didn't, the muscles would get tighter and tighter in the long term which in the context of the pelvic floor, would create premature ejaculation.

[theGOAT Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close theGOAT]

Understand.

But also the most strechable muscle is the exhausted muscle.

[Zero6283 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Zero6283]

When you say force your spine into a neutral position you mean you try to make your back flat or because of your anterior pelvic tilt? I dont know if I have anterior pelvic tilt or not. I've tried looking in the mirror but I dont see it very obviously but maybe. I tried the test where you lay flat and bring a knee to your chest and if the other leg lifts up that indicates apt. Mine does lift but not excessively so I'm not sure if I've got it or not. I know when I do squats my glutes hip flexors and inside back of my legs gets extremely sore. I read weak glues contribute to apt as well. I do try and keep my back as straight as possible when squatting.

When I rk I push like I'm trying to fart and I feel pressure from behind my balls to my anus and then i try to relax my abs and maintain the pressure for as long as I can. I also do this during sex though but i focus on deep breathing and just try and keep my thoughts on relaxing and not tensing up my abs or lower body or forcing my PF to release if I feel it tense up. After leg day I can push as hard as I can and it feels the the pelvic floor wont budge at all. I'm not sure I've ever got mine to fully release if you say you can feel yours drop. Sometimes I can feel it loosen when pushing and it maybe feels looser but never like a drop. Is there any other tricks you have to loosening it up after leg day? I feel like overall being fit will help my pe but I hate leg day because I know I'll be a chump in bed.

I do think the hip and PF stretches help after leg day but I can't rk for 2 days still. The stretches seem to be the best thing to last longer. If I can I'll do stretches if she hops in the shower and sex seems likely. The closer I can do the stretching to sex the better they seems to work.

[WillGetBetter Senior Member Member of the Month Nov 2018 Find all posts View Profile Close WillGetBetter]

One other thing to focus on with the RKs is to do them towards the front of the pelvic floor (increase urination flow) instead of the back (feel like you’re releasing a fart).

If you get an erection, try to make the erection go away with the front RK.

Try the front RK with your hips rotated in different positions. I used to practice by getting on all fours - then dipped my lower back down and stick my butt out. I couldn’t RK in that position. Then I would arch my back like a cat (rounded with hips tucked under). I could do a full RK in that position.

[soon2bhuge Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close soon2bhuge]

When I have an erection and really push out RKs, my dick gets really veiny and my glans fills up like crazy but my erection very slowly starts to go down.

Anyone else?