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[ImPumped Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ImPumped]

Big congratulations ACPre! I have been reading your blog since the beginning and reading about your succes after you kept going at it really motivates me.
I do have one question. I feel like I've made really good progress with fixing my APT and I'll continue to work at it, ,but I have alot of trouble doing RK's.
I've been doing every PF stretch out there every morning and before bed for 3 weeks now and still not much has changed.
You said these stretches were the key to locating your RK's. How long did it take for you to notice the first progress? And which stretch did you feel like had the most benefit, besides Hindi Squats?

[ACPreE Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ACPreE]

Big congratulations ACPre! I have been reading your blog since the beginning and reading about your succes after you kept going at it really motivates me.
I do have one question. I feel like I've made really good progress with fixing my APT and I'll continue to work at it, ,but I have alot of trouble doing RK's.
I've been doing every PF stretch out there every morning and before bed for 3 weeks now and still not much has changed.
You said these stretches were the key to locating your RK's. How long did it take for you to notice the first progress? And which stretch did you feel like had the most benefit, besides Hindi Squats?

Thanks! Glad I could help keep you and others moving in the right direction.

Kicking the APT is a big one. Learning to RK took me about a month to feel the downward movement. For me to "unlock", for no better choice of words to describe it, I was doing 2 sets of hindi squats a day for about 10mins. At night before i would start my edging session I would lay on my back with my legs bent and just feel around with pushing movements and try and feel the area i need for the inflation feeling. You know, try and do the feelings people say like push like you are trying to pee faster but dont pee kinda thing.

I also was doing a couple sessions of tennis ball massages in where the birthing canal would be on women but for males instead. This is between the base of the balls and the ahole. You will feel a round area the ball can push into. Can roll it forward backwards and side to side a little.

You will notice once the area stretches out you will start to feel the inflation, slight at first, but will continue to get bigger and stronger the more you work at it.

Remember as well, do not hurt yourself. You want to feel a stretch but if you over stretch you will end up tightening up and we don't want that.

Just keep at it with the stretching and pushing and feeling around. You will get it.

Do you feel a stretch in that area between the base of your balls and your ahole when you are doing your hindi squats? Try working deep belly breathing in with it and that may help you start to feel that stretch better.

[ImPumped Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ImPumped]

Thanks for you response! I think I should start feeling around that area and tennis ball massaging it. Maybe the mind-muscle-connection just isn't there. Also, when I'm in hindi squat and deep belly breathing I barely feel any stretch. Since I've been stretching for about 4 months now, I have to lay myself on some crazy positions to feel a stretch anywhere.

Did you also do any child poses? I've started them 2 days ago and those give me a weird stretch around my lower belly. Not sure if it helps with the PreE though.

[Anklepain Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Anklepain]

Did strong RK exersice lowered your EQ? Im not 100% if this strong RK exersice lowered my EQ or something else.

I think im going to stop strong RK exersice. Im going to stick with 10%RK only.

[Anklepain Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Anklepain]

And how about 10%RK? Did it lowered your EQ? Are you still doing them even you are cure?

[ACPreE Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ACPreE]

@ImPumped I did try child pose but didn't really incorporate into my routine but it is a good stretch too.

@Anklepain For me personally RKs didn't lower my EQ but I have heard of people having issues with that. When you RK too much I think it weakens the muscle too which is why people have recommended when this happens to start doing regular kegels. start off with a 30/70 split K/RK routine and if you are still having issues with your EQ to maybe bump it up to 50/50. You don't want to overpower the Kegels because they may make you tighter and difficult to RK.

If it was me id do a Kegel routine, Do some hindi squats and stretches then do some RKs. The kegels will tighten so make sure to stretch and relax the muscle after.

As for the 10%Rk its just to remind my PF to stay relaxed and to not hold tension. I obviously tense it lifting heavy things and stuff that needs the support but when i'm sitting or walking around the office, i want my PF to be relaxed.

[nevergivein Member Find all posts View Profile Close nevergivein]

Thanks! Glad I could help keep you and others moving in the right direction.

Kicking the APT is a big one. Learning to RK took me about a month to feel the downward movement. For me to "unlock", for no better choice of words to describe it, I was doing 2 sets of hindi squats a day for about 10mins. At night before i would start my edging session I would lay on my back with my legs bent and just feel around with pushing movements and try and feel the area i need for the inflation feeling. You know, try and do the feelings people say like push like you are trying to pee faster but dont pee kinda thing.

I also was doing a couple sessions of tennis ball massages in where the birthing canal would be on women but for males instead. This is between the base of the balls and the ahole. You will feel a round area the ball can push into. Can roll it forward backwards and side to side a little.

You will notice once the area stretches out you will start to feel the inflation, slight at first, but will continue to get bigger and stronger the more you work at it.

Remember as well, do not hurt yourself. You want to feel a stretch but if you over stretch you will end up tightening up and we don't want that.

Just keep at it with the stretching and pushing and feeling around. You will get it.

Do you feel a stretch in that area between the base of your balls and your ahole when you are doing your hindi squats? Try working deep belly breathing in with it and that may help you start to feel that stretch better.

So you say it took you a month with all stretching, massages etc to feel a drop in the PF when trying to RK?

I’ve been on off with never a set routine and often gave up in a short period simply because - I would not feel my RK loosen.

I would hindi for 30mins a day and RK by tensing my abs really hard but never worked and stupidly gave up. So now, I’m sticking to deep belly breathing, hindus, APT workouts, different stretches and RK only routine.

- Is it normal to feel nothing initially?
- How long would this no real RK feeling take to overcome generally speaking?

[ACPreE Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ACPreE]

Yes it did take me a bit to feel the RK feeling because I was so tight. I was doing Hindi squats 2x a day for 10mins or so, Tennis ball massages helped stretch the area too and id do them twice a day to and from work. Then while doing edging sessions on my back with bent knees id push with my abs and try and feel around (not with my hand but with muscle control). Try to discover the muscle and area better and with practice you will loosen it up.

My routine had a few gaps and inconsistencies and that certainly made my recovery take longer.

Is it normal to feel nothing initially? not sure Iv read that quite a few people are unfamiliar with this muscle and area when they start out so id assume so.
How long to feel the RK feeling? that is dependent on you really. How much tension your PF holds and where the tension is coming from. Do you have APT?

Lay on a flat ground with your knees bent and press your lower back so its flat on the ground. Then using your abs try and push out the area under your balls to between your balls and ahole. Make sure you stretch good before you try finding it.

Also remember, overstretching can tighten muscles back up too. Keep stretching to loosen up the area but dont hurt yourself. stay consistent and you will feel it in no time. You are bringing flexibility back to something that hasn't been flexible in god knows how long.

[Canimakeit Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Canimakeit]

- Is it normal to feel nothing initially?
- How long would this no real RK feeling take to overcome generally speaking?

I didn't feel anything for a good three months, and I was amazed to realize that the area between my asshole and balls actually could be "soft" and not rock hard... Now I'm nowhere near being cured, but after nine months of stretching, APT- and core work, i feel better than ever "down there", just keeping consistence and devoted to the exercises....

Actually I think I've just the other Day figuered out a true front RK... On the otherhand, I've thought it many times before...

[nevergivein Member Find all posts View Profile Close nevergivein]

Yes it did take me a bit to feel the RK feeling because I was so tight. I was doing Hindi squats 2x a day for 10mins or so, Tennis ball massages helped stretch the area too and id do them twice a day to and from work. Then while doing edging sessions on my back with bent knees id push with my abs and try and feel around (not with my hand but with muscle control). Try to discover the muscle and area better and with practice you will loosen it up.

My routine had a few gaps and inconsistencies and that certainly made my recovery take longer.

Is it normal to feel nothing initially? not sure Iv read that quite a few people are unfamiliar with this muscle and area when they start out so id assume so.
How long to feel the RK feeling? that is dependent on you really. How much tension your PF holds and where the tension is coming from. Do you have APT?

Lay on a flat ground with your knees bent and press your lower back so its flat on the ground. Then using your abs try and push out the area under your balls to between your balls and ahole. Make sure you stretch good before you try finding it.

Also remember, overstretching can tighten muscles back up too. Keep stretching to loosen up the area but dont hurt yourself. stay consistent and you will feel it in no time. You are bringing flexibility back to something that hasn't been flexible in god knows how long.

Yes I have APT as mentioned on other threads. Still working on it....
My lower back tightens a lot, no matter what position when I'm deep belly breathing and doing RK’s

I still remember aged 12-13 when I would first masturbate I use to RK. I didn’t know what it was called but I clearly remember expanding my PF probably with no to little abs and be able to enjoy it and last longer. Decades on, i’m surely tight as I can’t do that no more due to excessive rushed PMO coupled with poor lifestyle habits

[ACPreE Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ACPreE]

https://imgur.com/a/Em0FO9H
Visualizing the areas of feeling helped me a bit.
Different positions allow you to feel it easier and in the correct spots. The 2 I do to really home in that spot are the bent knee leg lifts, when i push a RK during these, it feels dead center on the front RK spot.
Doing laying flat with feet flat on wall at about knee height doing rks is also another easier way for me. This position is a little broader on the center to front PF but its more natural and less forced then other methods.

Think both those positions helped me RK easier because laying flat corrects my APT which relieves a bit of the PF tension.

It does take time.

[stillhoping Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close stillhoping]

Thanks for this thread, ACPreE. It’s very helpful. I’ve been performing RKs and trying to correct APT for about 3 weeks. I’ve made progress in relaxing my PF. But I have a question: with an erection, how much tension should be felt in your PF? It seems some is necessary, right?

[andrewvi7 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close andrewvi7]

Thanks for this thread, ACPreE. It’s very helpful. I’ve been performing RKs and trying to correct APT for about 3 weeks. I’ve made progress in relaxing my PF. But I have a question: with an erection, how much tension should be felt in your PF? It seems some is necessary, right?

Not really. Think of it this way:
The scale of pf tension out of 10 == the progress until PONR, out of 10.

I cannot tell you the importance of prolonged RKing, during the day, during foreplay, even try bringing a very light version of it into sex.

Few questions....
1 - If you get into a deep squat, and breathe in all the maximum air you can hold into your belly, and slightly compress your core, can you feel an rk?
2 - If you stand still or while walking, can you compress your core and feel an rk?
3 - Can you rk without compressing your core?
4 - Can you keep an rk while aroused?
5 - Can you keep an rk while having sex?

Those are in order of difficulty. Currently i'm on 4. PE only disappeared at 3.

[Anklepain Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Anklepain]

Not really. Think of it this way:
The scale of pf tension out of 10 == the progress until PONR, out of 10.

I cannot tell you the importance of prolonged RKing, during the day, during foreplay, even try bringing a very light version of it into sex.

Few questions....
1 - If you get into a deep squat, and breathe in all the maximum air you can hold into your belly, and slightly compress your core, can you feel an rk?
2 - If you stand still or while walking, can you compress your core and feel an rk?
3 - Can you rk without compressing your core?
4 - Can you keep an rk while aroused?
5 - Can you keep an rk while having sex?

Those are in order of difficulty. Currently i'm on 4. PE only disappeared at 3.

Thanks, this clear up alot of things from your original thread of how you cured your Pre E.

[stillhoping Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close stillhoping]

Not really. Think of it this way:
The scale of pf tension out of 10 == the progress until PONR, out of 10.

I cannot tell you the importance of prolonged RKing, during the day, during foreplay, even try bringing a very light version of it into sex.

Few questions....
1 - If you get into a deep squat, and breathe in all the maximum air you can hold into your belly, and slightly compress your core, can you feel an rk?
2 - If you stand still or while walking, can you compress your core and feel an rk?
3 - Can you rk without compressing your core?
4 - Can you keep an rk while aroused?
5 - Can you keep an rk while having sex?

Those are in order of difficulty. Currently i'm on 4. PE only disappeared at 3.

So, I can do 1 and 2. As for 4 and 5, I can temporarily keep an RK. But I can’t RK without compressing my core, so I can’t hold one constantly. I’m trying to learn to RK and consciously relax my core but find this difficult.

I guess I also need to focus on consciously relaxing my PF while edging.