My log in beating PreE

[Anthony Gerio N Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Anthony Gerio N]

Long time no update on my log.
So first thing is I tried working on improving my kegels strength in order to achieve DO and eventually use it to counter PreE. Did not go well. Followed the Minuteman program for about a month, but decided to stop as my penis become so sensitive that I could barely penetrate.
Than started again with stretching and light RKs. Feeling my PF much more relaxed now. Still not where I want to be but much better.
Started doing more physical exercises and jogging, this helps normalize my hormons and not thinking about sex and PreE all the time.
On personal side had again some conflicts with wife. Had some nice sex a few times. Hate to hear her saying "come on cum I cannot do it anymore" after a few minutes sex. Everytime I pass the initial urge to come and feel myself confident and ready she stops me and complains that she does not enjoy it and eventually we end up fighting...again. I am so tired doing the same conversations with her almost every time we have sex, it has somehow become not pleasurable experience.
Not sure how we will end up, this situation is killing me..
For all the guys struggling I can advice. Do the work , it works, do RKs, stretching, posture correction. But at the end of the day I only see the success when you practice with understanding partner who is not going against you.

Reading your log, maybe not the right forum to discuss the personal issues. Congrat on the gains and yeah, kegels can screw you up.

Life is short, and an honourable man takes nothing less than he deserves. Not suggesting anything, just saying.

[Jimmy_quick Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Jimmy_quick]

Reading your log, maybe not the right forum to discuss the personal issues. Congrat on the gains and yeah, kegels can screw you up.

Life is short, and an honourable man takes nothing less than he deserves. Not suggesting anything, just saying.

Thanks for the feedback, yeah, I get to know myself better now, and even not perfect I know what I need to work on in order to improve.
And in the personal aspects, you have a point be it is somehow related to my PreE issues and I am using the log to also note my mental condition.

[Pegasus AdministratorPE Gym EditorPEGym Hero ☺ Admin of the Month Mar 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Pegasus]

Now that you have successfully cured your PreE could you come up with a regimen an reply with it? I need some help with PreE

I never had pre e .
My advice re it is all over the site . There is also the pre 90 comprehensive workout in the stickies .

[Jimmy_quick Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Jimmy_quick]

Small update.
Have been working on my PF by doing daily stretching and light RK. All in all not more than 30min total. Something else I am now trying is to try to do RK throughout the day. I also like it when I do jogging and I need more oxygen I will deeply breath and feel the push on my PF. Also worth mentioning that during jogging I strive to keep my posture straight and not go in APT.

So after a couple of days with the the above routine I had great result in sex, follow by a failure on the next day.

This confirms somehow again that for me the issue is maybe more mental than physical.

So first day, I was in very good moose the whole day, very positive, one of those days things are just happening and all is good. I also had the "I don't care I can fuck long as I want". So that evening sex started good, gave wife orgasm by going down on her first. Then went on it. Felt such a power, that I was able to fuck like pork star. Really nice feeling. Unfortunately again the good old trick the wife came with and after 5min she said she don't want any more and that's it. Was hit like a hammer, and from being very positive got depressed again.
Imagine you feel nice, seems girl enjoys it and in the middle you are pushed back...

So on the next day, mood was just the opposite, got depressed and lost motivation again. Somehow in who's situations I have the feeling the whole stress in my PF and I start feeling is over reactive. Was not thinking is sex that day, but wife seems wanted it so we went at it, guess what I could not last 20 sec, was awful.

So after that I got pissed off and told wife and need a break from sex.
Thinking of not doing it for 2-3 weeks to try gether my thoughts and think of a way to go forward.

That's for now, thanks for reading.

[Jimmy_quick Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Jimmy_quick]

Hey guys, long time no update. But I am mentally here and still fighting PreE.
Wanted to share something that helps me recently.
So we haven't smoked any weed in the past 1 year maybe. So I recently got some since I remember it was helping me with my PreE. So now as it happens it does not solve my issue, In fact PreE is worse then ever, I cum on penetration. However when smoking my wife is switching to a very nice and calm mood, does not complain, let me lead during intercourse and I can concentrate to do some start/stop, release PF and slow fucking for about 15-20 min. After that initial period I can fuck harder and we have great sex for a other 30 min.
unfortunately this is only when smoking weed, other times she does not allow me to stop and tease her.. We are not doing this often so I need to find a way to reproduce it somehow...
but anyway hope helps somebody else as well.

[Jimmy_quick Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Jimmy_quick]

Long time no update on my log. Here I am again with no real progress, mainly because of me not being persistent in following my routine. Now I am motivated more than ever to finally improve.
I will try to put more precise information about where I currently am and where I want to be for the moment. Also what program I am following and update it if needed. As part of the routine I want to fix my APT, that is why I have put emphasis on strengthening my abs and glutes. Stretching the hamstrings and lower back will be combined and will be part of the yoga exercises.

Short term target PONR: 1min PIV without stopping.
Long term target PONR: 15min PIV medium speed thrusting.


Current PONR: 10-20sec, usually first thrust, contact with vagina

Routine:

Physical: stretching, APT fix, PF relaxation
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Mon -
2x50, 1sec pushes, 10x10sec hold RK
Glutes activation/strengthening (1)
Plunks
Yoga stretches(2) around 20min
Tue -
ABS workout *
Glutes activation/strengthening

Yoga stretches(2) around 20min


Wed -
2x50, 1sec pushes, 10x10sec hold RK

Glutes activation (1)


Thu -
2x50, 1sec pushes, 10x10sec hold RK

ABS workout *
Glutes activation/strengthening

Yoga stretches(2) around 20min

Fri -
2x50, 1sec pushes, 10x10sec hold RK
Glutes activation (1)

Sat -
2x50, 1sec pushes, 10x10sec hold RK
ABS *
Glutes activation (1)


Sun - REST

* Some days will replace the abs workout with cardio, i.e jogging or swimming.

(1) Glutes activation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsxK...l=JeremyEthier
(2) Stretching:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yx0...lowerEmpowered

1) Child
2) Cat/cow
3) Pidgeon
4) Hindi squat wall
5) Happy Baby pose
6) Laying down knee to shoulder...

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Edging:
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1. Edge when having privacy or usually late evening.
2. Aim for 1h, staying away from PONR, around 6 on the arousal scale.
3. Cum every third session.
3. Currently masturbating dry, will introduce lube when possible
4. Need to get myself a Fleshlight, not sure how to present this to my wife

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Breathing:
Train slow meditative breathing 15 min a day, introduce in sex.
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Arousal control:
Still not sure how to approach this one. Usually I get very aroused while giving oral and my penis throbbing and PF getting tensed. However after 5-10 min I lose my erection, when it is time to get in after that first it takes me some time to get hard, and then when I feel her wet warm pussy I am at 9 on the arousal scale, and ready to blow my load.. Still need to build a was to control myself.
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tbd
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I will post what is the outcome during sex. I will gradually introducing the above in sec one at a time.
For example.
1-2 weeks, will try to focus only on PF relaxation and RKs
1-2 weeks, will concentrate on breathing
1-2 weeks, arousal awareness
1-2 weeks, mental presence. (Very often I go in this primal state that I have no control on my body)


Currently following the above routine for 3 weeks, some observations so far:

- I see a lot of improvement in edging. Can go for 1h with some pauses, after 40min, feel my dick desensitized and can go harder. 1 Month ago I was not able to do this.
- In the meantime I had sex few times, unfortunatelly the edging progress did not translate to sex

Will keep the routine up to date with changes I make.

Any suggestions about the arousal control section are welcome.

[Jimmy_quick Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Jimmy_quick]

Ok so it has been a month already. Time for some update.

I was re-reading some old threads the other day, so I came across this one:

https://thebiohacker.com/forums/prem...how-i-cured-it

what andrewi7 was saying is somethingI never paid enough attention to. He said to do only light RK, as pushing to hard tenses and and PF. I tried to be consistent in this and seems I can already relax my PF better.

Edging/masturbation has improved a lot. I can now go for a long time, fully hard, stroking at high speed.
I still have problems thou when introducing imagination.
Will go for one more week without imagination so I can master my control without and then slightly introduce it back.
what I also found useful is proper breathing during masturbation. I breath in for 5sec through my nose and breath out 7 sec through my mouth.

In regards to sex. Gave a really nice fuck to wife the other day. However I don't count this as success as I had more alcohol than usual befor that.

[Jimmy_quick Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Jimmy_quick]

Had sex in the weekend. It was Saturday morning and I know that usually at this time I am the most sensitive and cannot last at all. Anyway we wake up and after some cuddling we went for it. As I suspected I could not last even 10 sec and ejaculated. Anyway I did not make a problem of it and we kept laying down and talking. After maybe 10 min I was still horny. Wife usually don't go for 2nd round but this time she did not mind it. From my past experience in the last year even on 2nd round I never managed to control myself. This time however it was different. I was able to slide deep inside here and thrust on a medium speed. She was wet as hell and I was feeling all the sensation on my penis. It was great feeling
, at this moment I was totally in the moment but still mindful and was able to apply all the technics I do during edging, like slowing down a bit regain control and then start faster again. Lasted for about 5min.
Now someone may argue this is a success by itself as it was second round but for me it is. I hope soon I can achieve this in round 1.

[Jimmy_quick Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Jimmy_quick]

Sex today:
Was something quick anyway as we were to be late for work soon. Anyway:
- lasted some good time during oral. To notice is that my erection was really great, my glans was huge like a balloon. Really enjoyed it for about 2-3min. Lately I had problems lasting even with blow job. So this time oral wen just fine and I am happy with it.

- went for sex standing with her facing the wall, she was not very wet as I did not have her oral, she wanted to be fucked. While trying to enter her her still dry vagina pulled back my foreskin to the back which made me kegel hard, that was enough to bring me to the edge and I ejaculated. So yeah, was not even 10 sec penetration. What I did not like that I again went in this primal state that I just forget about everything, totally out of my body and control.

[Johnny D ModeratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Johnny D]

Any progress is good progress!
What are you doing to work on your arousal control?

[Jimmy_quick Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Jimmy_quick]

Any progress is good progress!
What are you doing to work on your arousal control?

Not much to be honest , that is why I have left the section TBD 3 posts back. I don't have anything that I can practice out of sex , except some meditative RKs for 15 min from time to time.
During sex what I am trying when possible is to apply what I do during edging, I.e. breathing slowly 5sec breathing in, 7 sec breathing out, relaxing my PF, and sometimes to distruct myself.
I will really appreciate any suggestions about what I can practice in regards to arousal control. Thanks.

[Johnny D ModeratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Johnny D]

Being conscious of the physical stuff - breathing, relaxing, sensation - is great, but you also have to do a lot of work to reprogram your system to detach orgasm from arousal. You have to allow yourself to be aroused for obvious reasons while, at the same time, having control over your own response to it.
Have you gone through all of the Must Read stickies? Check out Arousal Techniques and BiggDy's Guide, especially.
https://thebiohacker.com/forums/prem...culation-forum

[GettingOverIt Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close GettingOverIt]

To me it seems like you still able to go from relaxed PF to super tight in a few seconds. That means that there is still tension somewhere. Some one mentioned that relaxed PF must be more like elongated and loose.

When you do hindi squats, how long do you sit for?
Are your feet really far apart or just under your butt?

I try to sit as low as possible, and push my thighs as far apart as possible by pressing my fists together instead of palms. - I worked up to this point as it is quite a stretch. I feel the IC stretch a little on the sides, and also feel a stretch at my sitting bones region. Maybe that's hamstrings IDK. My duration is 15mins. I also do butterfly pose, five minutes before squatting.

I have no more tension or IKs and PONR is on request so to speak.

I had serious mental issues about Pre E and stuff, but sorted that too so sorting those out also help I guess.

[Jimmy_quick Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Jimmy_quick]

Being conscious of the physical stuff - breathing, relaxing, sensation - is great, but you also have to do a lot of work to reprogram your system to detach orgasm from arousal. You have to allow yourself to be aroused for obvious reasons while, at the same time, having control over your own response to it.
Have you gone through all of the Must Read stickies? Check out Arousal Techniques and BiggDy's Guide, especially.
https://thebiohacker.com/forums/prem...culation-forum

Yes, I have been re-reading those few times. Went through the BiggDy program before. Problem is they are relaying mostly on edging. I have had progress with edging before and even now but it never translated to sex. I think I have problem with my arousal and staying in control of my thoughts. The other thing is don't always have the privacy for my sessions.
I will again go on the drummer19 thread about the arousal control and try to build up a program that works for me.

[Jimmy_quick Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Jimmy_quick]

To me it seems like you still able to go from relaxed PF to super tight in a few seconds. That means that there is still tension somewhere. Some one mentioned that relaxed PF must be more like elongated and loose.

When you do hindi squats, how long do you sit for?
Are your feet really far apart or just under your butt?

I try to sit as low as possible, and push my thighs as far apart as possible by pressing my fists together instead of palms. - I worked up to this point as it is quite a stretch. I feel the IC stretch a little on the sides, and also feel a stretch at my sitting bones region. Maybe that's hamstrings IDK. My duration is 15mins. I also do butterfly pose, five minutes before squatting.

I have no more tension or IKs and PONR is on request so to speak.

I had serious mental issues about Pre E and stuff, but sorted that too so sorting those out also help I guess.

yes, it is strange. Sometimes I feel my PF muscles not only clenching but kind of trembling. And this is happening always before sex and sometime I cum even before having hard erection. And I never have this during edging for example.
It is weired, like a have a button Ejaculation which is pressed as soon as I put my penis in vagina, and even before..
About the stretching. I am doing about 30min exercises very day + RKs. I am not into Hindi squat as I had hemorrhoids because of it. So I do it in a similar way now, laying down on the floor, legs bend on the wall and ass next to the wall. It is similar like the Hindi squat but I am bt putting pressure on my anus area.
For sure I have to work on the mental side and arousal control. I am working on making a plan for myself now.
how did you sorted that out?