My way to victory - my log

[v0n Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close v0n]

I need to beat this. Its eating me up, and I will stop at nothing.

It's time I start a log. I've been battling PE for three years, and I've finally had it. I've been managing it previously, with slow start stop sex and long foreplay, but I've had it now. I want to beat this thing into the ground. Once and for all. I want to be able to, pardon my French, fuck like a racehorse again, like I've previously been able to.

I hope you guys will help me on this journey, and give my girlfriend the surprise she deserves when she gets back from travelling in a couple months.

Background;

I think I picked up PE three years ago, when my then GF left for her home country for a month. I was used to having sex very often (and for long, mind you). I was going insane going from tons of sex to nothing, so I did what everyone would do, I started rubbing it out. I was still living at my parents place, and it was during the summer break, so I sped up to not get caught, also watching porn. A month later I had fapped for a max of 5 minutes for almost every day. And guess what happened when she got home? I blew in 2-3 mins. I figured it was because I hadnt had sex for over a month, but no.

Shortly after I joined the military and broke it off with my toxic GF. I was staying at the base, in my own room, and continued the poor masturbation. I didnt have sex for 3-4 months after joining and going single, and when I did I blew in a minute.

After that I tried kegels (with the wrong muscle), start stop fapping (not taking my time, making it even worse), and I ended up not chasing girls anymore, because of the punch in the face I had taken from lasting an hour and in full control, to a couple minutes and no control.

Fast forward to now, I've been living with it and letting it control me since, but no more. I want it gone.

The plan;

This is where you guys come into play. Reccomendations and suggestions on routines are highly appreciated.

So far, I've though of this.

Hindi / wall stretch / happy baby for 10 mins, triangle breathing. Should I keep it to one, or should I do more stretches?

Meditation 10-20 mins

Doing a kegel routine each day, any suggestions on ratio? I wanna work my way up to MMO, at some point.

Edging for a min of 20 mins, working my way up to using my STU.

Currently I have a super sensitive spot just around the urethra, and I will blow in a matter of seconds if I stimulate it. IK overflow! Will edging and a kegel routine help combat this? Or do I have to take another approach?

I often have insomnia, due to my mind racing, and thought of quitting social media for a month, and meditating for 10-30 mins each day. I reckon this will have an impact on my ability to relax and enjoy the sensations much more. Also I tend to get really aroused, like Jekyll and Hyde, heart starts racing, start breathing fast, you know the drill, and I hope the meditation could help combat this.

I have a feeling I have APT to some extent, and will have it checked monday by a chiropractor.

Also, I work out 5 times/week, and will be putting emphasis on core exercises and hip thrusts. Considering starting a stretch routine after hitting the gym aswell. Suggestions are very welcome!

Since this is turning out quite longer than expected, I'll end it here. Will be updated with routines and stretches when I have heard your suggestions and make the routines. Let me hear what you think guys! Lets beat this shit together!

If you made it this far, thanks for reading. I really hope you guys will give your inputs, and help me surprise the fuck (literally) out of my GF when she gets back, and regain my confidence.

[ACPreE Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ACPreE]

Congratulations, you are on your way to kicking this shit. Good to see you did some looking into it.
Your core and lower ab work is very important, especially if you have APT. Lots of leg lifts

Personally how i would do the Kegel ratio if i were u would be a 70/30 starting out. for RK / K. If you have a tight PF you will need stretching and RKs to loosen up. Kegels will tighten the area as you are working it out so it maybe better to do kegels first if you want to do them followed by stretching and RK routine.

Edging is a good way to learn your scale and practice breathing to help control arousal and heart rate. Teaches you to control your urges if you can keep to a not cumming until day 3 or 4. (dont think its necessary but have read it help some retrain)

Tips:
Deep belly breathing while doing a hindi squat and pushing a RK makes a good 3 for 1 combo.
Laying on back, bent knee leg lifts with RKs and using your core to stabilize APT is another good combo.

Pretty much the concept is, you want to correct APT to allow natural PF tension. This will allow you to stretch and train RKs to further loosen and relax the area. As you retrain your PF to be relaxed and loose, you will be training your PF not to be as tense when you receive pleasure. Breathing and meditation will help control anxiety and heart rate. Once your body starts taking the changes, you should notice increase in stamina as long as you prevent your PF tightening and kegeling of sorts. When you train the RKs enough, this can be used to help push back and relax the tightening to give more control.

Then when your girl pops, you kegel and tighten up the PF and drop the mic.

Good Luck!

[nevergivein Member Find all posts View Profile Close nevergivein]

Top man! Wish you all the best and I’ll try my best to join you on this journey. APT and tight PF with poor abilities to RK at will - only happens if I deep belly breath standing, is my reason.

As Pegasus wrote keep an eye on glutes imbalance.

Personally, i’d look into tight hips, tight quads, tight hip flexors then stretch with pigeon pose also. Additionally, do a quad wall stretch and let us know how it feels - place your back against the wall, squat down, one leg at 90• and the other leg bent behind you with shin against wall to stretch the quad whilst going into PPT.

Finally to beautifully reinforce what ACPreE says:
“Pretty much the concept is, you want to correct APT to allow natural PF tension. This will allow you to stretch and train RKs to further loosen and relax the area. As you retrain your PF to be relaxed and loose, you will be training your PF not to be as tense when you receive pleasure. Breathing and meditation will help control anxiety and heart rate. Once your body starts taking the changes, you should notice increase in stamina as long as you prevent your PF tightening and kegeling of sorts. When you train the RKs enough, this can be used to help push back and relax the tightening to give more control” - bloody marvellous!

[v0n Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close v0n]

Thanks guys!

As for the APT, I sprained my lower back a while ago, and I'm going to a chiropractor on monday. I'll have her check my posture for APT. Nevertheless, I will be doing hip thrusts, hanging leg raises, deadlifts amongst many other exercises, will be working everything twice a week.

Planning to do pidgeon pose, wall stretch and hindi on the daily, my hips are tight as f***.


@ Nevergivein, what is PPT?

@ACPreE, I'm planning to only blow once a week, if even that. Do you think the hyper sensitive spot will become neutral if I just work it enough? Touching it makes me IK right away, where the other parts I can work for a while, but just around the urethra it's stupid sensitive! Maybe I should start without lube, to bring down the sensation?

I was reading your log, which actually was the thing that made me write this log! Seems like the log is a great tool for sticking to it. Are you fully cured now mate?

Also, how many reps would you do for K/RK routines?

Thanks!

[nevergivein Member Find all posts View Profile Close nevergivein]

Thanks guys!

As for the APT, I sprained my lower back a while ago, and I'm going to a chiropractor on monday. I'll have her check my posture for APT. Nevertheless, I will be doing hip thrusts, hanging leg raises, deadlifts amongst many other exercises, will be working everything twice a week.

Planning to do pidgeon pose, wall stretch and hindi on the daily, my hips are tight as f***.


@ Nevergivein, what is PPT?

@ACPreE, I'm planning to only blow once a week, if even that. Do you think the hyper sensitive spot will become neutral if I just work it enough? Touching it makes me IK right away, where the other parts I can work for a while, but just around the urethra it's stupid sensitive! Maybe I should start without lube, to bring down the sensation?

I was reading your log, which actually was the thing that made me write this log! Seems like the log is a great tool for sticking to it. Are you fully cured now mate?

Also, how many reps would you do for K/RK routines?

Thanks!

PPT = posterior pelvic tilt.
Make sure you are in PPT during exercises to feel the stretches effectively.

Just my opinion, don’t solely rely on the chiropractor as Cephalus on here was told he was “fine”, but it’s not what he needed to hear for his PreE.

I too go crazy on urethra and also under it but full head in general and @ACPreE I don’t know much about you except your posts but i’m sold. Hand for hand issues I face too and also what got me back into it.

[ACPreE Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ACPreE]

@ACPreE, I'm planning to only blow once a week, if even that. Do you think the hyper sensitive spot will become neutral if I just work it enough? Touching it makes me IK right away, where the other parts I can work for a while, but just around the urethra it's stupid sensitive! Maybe I should start without lube, to bring down the sensation?

I was reading your log, which actually was the thing that made me write this log! Seems like the log is a great tool for sticking to it. Are you fully cured now mate?

Also, how many reps would you do for K/RK routines?

Thanks!

I started dry because when i used lube i would get to PONR really fast in the beginning. I used lube and simply just went really slow and when i started feeling sensation start its downhill run from 6-9 on arousal id slow down even more to the point i was going so slow i was almost stopped but every so slowly moving to keep slight sensation but obviously if arousal got too high id stop completely for a second let it drop for a few seconds and continue slowly. Its really practicing to understand your arousal levels and train yourself to not go oh this feels good time to bust and go to bed.

I cant say much for the ultra sensitive spots because I didn't have any spots in particular that were like that. I just had an overall feeling of high sensation. It subsided when my PF tension was more in control. I didn't really work on desensitizing either, Its weird how it works but its like the sensitivity on the shaft is directly linked to your BC muscle and PF. I'm still sensitive, i wouldn't say ultra sensitive but the urge to cum doesn't come up instantly as i start because my body doesn't rush to tighten my PF the moment I'm stimulated. Pretty much what we are trying to retrain is that automatic response to tense up and rush to orgasm upon receiving pleasure.

The log is 100% recommended. It helps both you and others who are just starting out or in similar situations to collaborate and overcome their individual issues together.
I mean just look @nevergivein lol he got some benefit out of it too. Glad i could give you a hand up in your recovery too.

Not sure if cured is actually a good way to describe it. Has my stamina increased? Dramatically. Has my control increased? Yes. Do i catch myself involuntarily tensing my pf while sitting and doing brainless activity? Yes. Am I still working a big chunk of my routine? Of course.

I tried pulling back the routine a little earlier then i should have in September of last year when I first thought i was "cured" and stamina dropped. I Brought back on the routine for a week or 2 more and stamina went back up. I'm continuing with my current routine because it keeps me relaxed loose and my abs are coming in nicely now XD GF likes it too. Honestly id be afraid to stop but I'm probably going to be pushing the gym much harder in the coming months to get that summer bod going so it should only improve more. Its all just a balance though. You can't workout stretch and all that jazz just to improve your stamina and then go be a couch potato again. You will fall right back into the same habits and popping in seconds again.

@ACPreE I don’t know much about you except your posts but i’m sold. Hand for hand issues I face too and also what got me back into it.

And I hope you the best of luck as well my friend. Glad I could help get you rolling in the right direction.


Sorry for long post XD

[v0n Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close v0n]

PPT = posterior pelvic tilt.
Make sure you are in PPT during exercises to feel the stretches effectively.

Just my opinion, don’t solely rely on the chiropractor as Cephalus on here was told he was “fine”, but it’s not what he needed to hear for his PreE.

I too go crazy on urethra and also under it but full head in general and @ACPreE I don’t know much about you except your posts but i’m sold. Hand for hand issues I face too and also what got me back into it.

Ah, gotcha! Will be doing pillow stretches to keep me in PPT when lying down, doing RK's. Until the hip thrusts etc kick in, I reckon this will be a valuable stretch!

Also, where exactly should a proper RK be felt? Between the fart tunnel and the hip bone? Or should I just push everything out? I can also, what feels like atleast, stretch the PC muscle by pushing the anus out? This feels much easier as I don't have to use my abs and breath to push down. My whole shaft also retracts doing this.

As for kegels, they're supposed to be felt at the tail bone, pulling up from the fart tunnel to the base of the penis right? Like when you chop a log.

I thought about doing penis stretches aswell, to stretch the BC muscle, I could imagine it's quite tight by now, having worked the wrong kegel muscle and all.

Also, do you guys have any favourite kegel routines? I'll stick to 70/30% per your reccomendation, but how many should I do a day?

Glad to hear you're getting there AC! I'll start dry and work my way up to lube.

Thanks so much for getting back to me guys. Appreciate it!

[ACPreE Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ACPreE]

Aim the RK more forward. It may help to just push out all over to start until you can start to single out the areas. The bent knee leg lifts were one of the easier exercises to do a good RK because I could feel it in the Front and not be pushing out my butthole.

Kegels can be front or back. When I would do kegel holds I would flex everything front back and lower abs too. Really would tighten the hell out of that whole area and nothing would move or come out. This was after years and years of not knowing holding a kegel was not ideal for the whole time having sex/masturbating. Ya nobody told me that shit.

There are apps for kegel workouts. You will just have to judge if you are overworking your kegels more then your RKs. Personally I didn't do any kegel routine, just RKs because my kegel was pretty darn strong as it was because of poor kegel habits. Kind of sounds like you have used a kegel hold before successfully? You may already have a strong kegel muscle and might want to just start out with a full RK routine and move into Kegels later.

[v0n Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close v0n]

So aim to RK the BC muscle? I'm practising to isolate this, and for anyone trying the same, do a kegel and try to chase it down, very gently! We'll get there eventually.

Do you do RK's with muscles? I always used my stomach to push air to RK, and had no clue how the hell you guys could do RK's while breathing lol.

Haha, same! I was told to do kegels like stopping my piss, so I worked my BC muscle a lot. So yeah, I reckon you're right on the 100% RK! Could probably work my PC muscle, as I've never worked it before, and then stretch and finish with RK's.

[ACPreE Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ACPreE]

Correct.

I do RKs with lower ab muscles and breathing depending on what position i'm in. Its ok to push them but if you cant, you may need to work on those lower abs/core.

[v0n Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close v0n]

Awesome!

I was watching porn to see how I react to it, and as soon as I could feel a boner building up I could RK and breathe, and it was gone in seconds. Even from 30-40% erection.

Waited a good hour after that and started edging. Getting IK's so hard I cant control them with RK's, only when they stop. Going to start veeeery slowly and no lube.

I've been hindi squatting for 5 minutes and holding long RK's throughout the day aswell.

[v0n Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close v0n]

I've made a calendar I can cross out, with the days I do the full routine to keep me in the fire, so to speak. Basically to remind and motivate me each day, while tracking my progress.

Dealing with lower back issues atm, and hindi / happy baby is quite painful. Does anyone know of a good stretch that isnt hard on the lower back?

Also, my main focus atm is bringing down my sensitivity ( still IK like crazy with lube ), and fixing what I think might be sexual anxiety.

I noticed it a couple days ago, where I was out and talking to an old friend of mine. We were walking and suddenly she pushes up against me, trying to kiss me and grabbed my crotch. I rejected her but noticed a boner started growing, my pelvic floor was tense, my heart was racing and my breathing shallow. Does this sound like anxiety to you guys? I remember having this happen when I was about to be with someone new, for some reason. It's developed with my PE, havent always been like this.

[ACPreE Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ACPreE]

Sounds exactly like anxiety and it developed in me too with my PreE. Its like a hypersensitive arousal to real stimulation built most likely from our psyche. Real sensation drives us crazy and puts you into a fight or flight state where your heart races and breathing quickens.

This may have been brought on with the development of our tighter PFs. We get aroused and our PF tightens sending good sensations to the brain to want more. Starting to sound like a zombie now lol.

Never the less you can try a type of hindi squat with your back on the floor (carpet preferred) and put your feet on the wall about the distance your squat would be but with your butt to the wall. Can do some RKs in here but the ones you push out your penis not your asshole.

If these stretches are tough on your back, is that because you have tight back muscles too? Or did i miss a back injury?
If its tight lower back muscles, that maybe something that needs addressing too.

[nevergivein Member Find all posts View Profile Close nevergivein]

Knowing we have PreE and we will bust in seconds by mere touch increases the anxiety.

Our tight PF for whatever reason why we have it makes any stimulation or touch worse in a ongoing cycle; our bodies just involuntary tighten more and want to Ik and cum

Similarly, if you didn’t have all that, man any experienced guy would just chill and let the girl do her thing

[v0n Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close v0n]

I sprained my lower back a while ago, have been having good and bad days with it since.

But yeah. Reckon it's anxiety. How do you get rid of this? I have thought about doing CBD before sex, should help muscles relax and reduce anxiety. Or just do CBD in general.

It's one long evil spiral!

I'll try the wall squat! Thanks!


Yeah.. I've never thought about it that way. I really think its the anxiety kicking me in the ass.