IK When Putting It In Causing Pre E

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TL DR: uncontrollable IK when I thrust/enter into vagina during sex or my hands during edging causing me to cum immediately

So a little backstory, I used to have a really tight pelvic floor, I started noticing how tight it was so I’ve been trying to relax it for the past few months with RKs and hindis here and there. Recently started doing hindis and RKs consistently, been working on my APT too with a physiotherapist.
Sexual encounter 1: missionary, the moment my penis head slightly enters the vagina, I cum.
I thought it was because I wasn’t relaxed and didn’t control my breathing. So I was breathing during:
Sexual encounter 2: This time, her on top, I put it in entirely, immediately felt like cumming then I did.
Sexual encounter 3: Same thing as 2 + one stroke and then boom.

I then noticed that this is being caused by a problem I ALWAYS had, whenever I stroke my dick with my hand simulating a vagina (OK grip), when I slide my dick in: INTENSE kegel.

Now the problem is: I can balloon/stroke the shaft and frenulum separately and do everything in control, however when my dick “enters” something (stimulating head, then frenulum then shaft), it kegels, into PONR, I cant relax it.

I have seen very motivating pre e success posts and am confident that I am gonna beat this one way or another, but right now need help with this issue. I appreciate every reply! Ask me if I haven’t provided enough info.

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What doe the physio say.

[rad5gbbr Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close rad5gbbr]

I had IK just reading that. Thats my way of saying I feel you man.

[Jay1983 Senior MemberMember of the Month Apr 2014, Sept 2016 Find all posts View Profile Close Jay1983]

Smack it a couple times. Lol!

[Anthony Gerio N Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Anthony Gerio N]

My guess, probably very stressed out about penetration. The cases with one or two strokes should be more related to mental aspect of it. keep a light RK, focus on the moment and try to phase out the memories you had regarding the penetration from previous experiences.

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What doe the physio say.

Physio says I have restricted movement in my hips from birth. (Also have shoulder issues but that’s not relevant in this case)

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My guess, probably very stressed out about penetration. The cases with one or two strokes should be more related to mental aspect of it. keep a light RK, focus on the moment and try to phase out the memories you had regarding the penetration from previous experiences.

That’s what I was thinking too, but what about during masturbation? Same thing happens depending on the grip.

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TL DR: uncontrollable IK when I thrust/enter into vagina during sex or my hands during edging causing me to cum immediately

So a little backstory, I used to have a really tight pelvic floor, I started noticing how tight it was so I’ve been trying to relax it for the past few months with RKs and hindis here and there. Recently started doing hindis and RKs consistently, been working on my APT too with a physiotherapist.
Sexual encounter 1: missionary, the moment my penis head slightly enters the vagina, I cum.
I thought it was because I wasn’t relaxed and didn’t control my breathing. So I was breathing during:
Sexual encounter 2: This time, her on top, I put it in entirely, immediately felt like cumming then I did.
Sexual encounter 3: Same thing as 2 + one stroke and then boom.

I then noticed that this is being caused by a problem I ALWAYS had, whenever I stroke my dick with my hand simulating a vagina (OK grip), when I slide my dick in: INTENSE kegel.

Now the problem is: I can balloon/stroke the shaft and frenulum separately and do everything in control, however when my dick “enters” something (stimulating head, then frenulum then shaft), it kegels, into PONR, I cant relax it.

I have seen very motivating pre e success posts and am confident that I am gonna beat this one way or another, but right now need help with this issue. I appreciate every reply! Ask me if I haven’t provided enough info.

It happens to me also,but in my case I think its because I have short frenulum;that zone just before the gland is very sensitive and I get an instant pelvic tension;
Do you have a short frenulum?

[Gratis Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Gratis]

It happens to me also,but in my case I think its because I have short frenulum;that zone just before the gland is very sensitive and I get an instant pelvic tension;
Do you have a short frenulum?

I have a sensitive frenulum as in if I don’t pay attention, I IK when I stimulate it, but as for a short frenulum? I have no idea how my frenulum compares to a normal one.

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Sexual encounter: Same thing, ejaculated as soon as I thrusted. I notice that my EQ is really bad, say I stop a blowjob for a little pause to move to PIV, it goes soft. I also notice that I never have a good EQ when with a girl, just average, unlike when I masturbate where I can get it pretty hard but that’s also when IKs are crazy. Any help?

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Sexual encounter: Same thing, ejaculated as soon as I thrusted. I notice that my EQ is really bad, say I stop a blowjob for a little pause to move to PIV, it goes soft. I also notice that I never have a good EQ when with a girl, just average, unlike when I masturbate where I can get it pretty hard but that’s also when IKs are crazy. Any help?

I believe there should be cases, who cure ED and then they realize they have never had PreE. It was ED all along.

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So guys who have low eq tend to kegel to improve it and that causes pre e .

The underlying issue of hips is likely causing pelvic tension keep working on pelviic floor .

have you had a horrmone test ?

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have you had a horrmone test ?

I haven’t had a hormone test (dont know what for)


When I did kegels one day (focusing on root lock and IC muscle), I noticed that I had better EQ but more IKs the next day. But if I dont do kegels, I get bad EQ and pre E. A real dilemma.

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Suggest a hormone test.

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TL DR: uncontrollable IK when I thrust/enter into vagina during sex or my hands during edging causing me to cum immediately

So a little backstory, I used to have a really tight pelvic floor, I started noticing how tight it was so I’ve been trying to relax it for the past few months with RKs and hindis here and there. Recently started doing hindis and RKs consistently, been working on my APT too with a physiotherapist.
Sexual encounter 1: missionary, the moment my penis head slightly enters the vagina, I cum.
I thought it was because I wasn’t relaxed and didn’t control my breathing. So I was breathing during:
Sexual encounter 2: This time, her on top, I put it in entirely, immediately felt like cumming then I did.
Sexual encounter 3: Same thing as 2 + one stroke and then boom.

I then noticed that this is being caused by a problem I ALWAYS had, whenever I stroke my dick with my hand simulating a vagina (OK grip), when I slide my dick in: INTENSE kegel.

Now the problem is: I can balloon/stroke the shaft and frenulum separately and do everything in control, however when my dick “enters” something (stimulating head, then frenulum then shaft), it kegels, into PONR, I cant relax it.

I have seen very motivating pre e success posts and am confident that I am gonna beat this one way or another, but right now need help with this issue. I appreciate every reply! Ask me if I haven’t provided enough info.

Sounds like exactly what i had. 1 pump chump no matter how slow or relaxed the pump was. Unfortunately no amount of metal relaxation would help, it was 100% physical problem.

Just a tight pelvic floor at the moments you've had sex mate. What you need to learn is the difference in feeling between a locked-up PF vs a stretched out one. If you start getting aroused while with a girl and haven't done your prep work, you're fucked. Nothing you do will extend your pump time by long. What i suggest you do is go for 20-30min walks, and practise holding a LIGHT rk the whole time, 5-10min in you should feel like there's a balloon being blown up in your pelvis, and you should feel the bottom/front of the Pelvic floor get sore (thats really good). Learn how to maintain that RK, while just sitting and doing nothing, learn it while lying down, then learn how to work your abs out while holding a small rk and stuff like that.

Once you learn all that, you should be able to have foreplay etc and still maintain a relaxed pelvic floor (WITH AN RK), and you will go from 1 pump to being able to have normal sex.

Problem is that our pelvic floors overwork at doing everything, they're even engaged while just chilling on the sofa because the muscles are just dysfunctional. Arousal only compounds that issue. But if you can go in with a stretched pelvic floor and maintain an RK, in my experience even if you get nervous or anxious, it won't matter. Anxiety tends to naturally tighten our midsections and the pelvic floor as a reaction to a threat, that's why it damages performance. A good RK counteracts that because it doesn't let the PF to tighten up. I can personally vouch that both PE and anxiety can be countered perfectly with a good RK