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  • #61
    No continued luck unfortunately even tried with pay Yuen tong, couldn’t tap into whatever was going on. Pf feels pretty loose too so idk what the deal is. How is the urge to ejaculate so often independent of muscle spasm / contractions? Very strange.
    The only and rare times I feel in control seems to correlate with a very hard erection and the head feeling sort of numb idk it’s weird.

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    • #62
      The only and rare times I feel in control seems to correlate with a very hard erection and the head feeling sort of numb idk
      Yeah, that's what it should be like. Sometimes when loosing the erection, people start to contract upper abs, back muscles and PF to regain the erection (most of the times not deliberately) and boom, off course.

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      • #63
        Things went well last night. I was sitting all day and felt low back and hips were tight too - so counterintuitive. I don’t know what to think but I’m not complaining if things go well they go well.

        In regards to last comment Anthony I will see if I’m contacting any of those areas subconsciously in the future.

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        • #64
          Had a couple beers last night and relapsed on the porn front. Ponr within a minute. Ups and downs ... not very happy with myself. Low arousal and high arousal is night and day for me.

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          • #65
            Not great at keeping this log. Every other day I’m alternating between glutes and abs stuff. Back is still messed up so I really don’t have any other active hobbies to get in the way. My ability to RK has improved for sure. I can really expand front and back when I feel things opened up. I feel like I’ve improved breathing with my diaphragm and keep my attention toward expand with in breathes while I jerk off. When aroused my body has a tendency to fall into shallow breathes so I’m trying to counter act it.
            I can sort of RK while edging or whatever but not really. My problem is still the problem I’ve always had. The second I’m actually arlused even a bit I’m done. Maybe 6 thrusts and goodnight.
            This problem is mental torture and honestly so brutal but I try to imagine the weight off my shoulders that will come if things take a miraculous turn for the better.

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            • #66
              Last week or so haven’t done much training. Preparing for an interview and then getting the job have taken up a lot of time as well as finally getting back into bjj after months I’ve been tired. Just jerked off and legitimately had ponr in maybe 15 seconds without even being super aroused. Pretty insane and usually these things demoralize me but not this time. It’s great to see the poor results being directly linked to my stumbling in training.
              It’s human nature to be less motivated when you doubt the work will actually pay off. So a level of certainty in the work paying off helps psychologically stay focused. Knowing my PF is tensed up and having no control is confirmation that the physically is at the very least hugely relevant to success - or at least failure. So in my subconscious mind there is now the recognition that maybe I still can’t fix this cursed problem but at least I KNOW I can make things less bad.

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              • #67
                Wow. Super hungover yesterday and still feel not great today. Masturbated both days and probably lasted less the 30 seconds both times with my hand and some imagination. My body was desperate for some dopamine? Literally amazed at how bad I am with this stuff.

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                • #68
                  Going to switch things up and try front kegels and target the IC and see what happens. I’ve been convinced on the posture and loose pf but maybe simple kegeling is the answer right in front of my face I’m ignoring. Haven’t tried regular kegels in years when I first lost my virginity and realized I had a serious problem. Nothing to lose. I’ll wait a few weeks before reporting.

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                  • #69
                    Ok I lied about waiting a few weeks lol.

                    Uptakes after just 5 days:

                    - Morning Wood is noticeably harder (possibly a good sign)
                    - Feel like I have to pee more often (probably not a good sign)
                    -Felt like I had surprisingly good control edging last night but I think that's an anomaly and its like the only time I have so n of 1 means squat
                    - Trying to isolate IC without flexing the other muscles is extremely challenging - (impossible???)

                    Another potentially counter productive thing I've been doing because screw it, why not at this point, is stretching my hamstrings. Always avoided doing so because of tight hip flexors and APT. Stretching them feels both horrible and good haha. Started a new job recently that has the upside of me now having more free time to work on this stuff but the downside of sitting twice as much as my previous one.

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                    • #70
                      I think I actual felt the base of my penis flexing and not just twitching while on a solo mission tonight. Fell like it was helping me hold back ponr too but I could be getting way ahead of myself. Just thought I should log the observation.

                      when practicing isolating and engaging this muscle I still have to engage my pelvic floor way farther back which sort of worries me because this is where I get IKs and I’m tightens up when aroused.

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                      • #71
                        I have gotten really good at RKs with belly breathing but I have no ability to do them while stimulated. Also they do nothing for me if I’m watching porn.

                        strenthening and loosening pf doesn’t seem to give me any “control” idk

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                        • #72
                          No real improvements with ICs, also doing RKs and belly breathing most days. Kind of thinking about going to a pelvic floor specialist but the fact they’re clients are mostly all women makes me skeptical if they’d be able to really help or give me info I don’t already get here.

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                          • #73
                            Considering completely stopping trying to avoid porn and going like all in on it to see how it effects arousal issues. Just like kegel experiments it can’t really hurt at this point. Only his hesitancy is that it’s definitely unhealthy generally and I could see myself getting somewhat addicted.

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                            • #74
                              I would be careful. For me porn drastically increases my urge to ejaculate. I remember some months ago I prolapse to the point where In would ejaculate a couple of times while watching porn. I realise everyone is different. So observe yourself and if you see negative impact just cut it out.

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                              • #75
                                I guess the question I have is how can you handle the arousal of sex and you can’t handle porn? Both send my arousal to overdrive immediately and I precum a ton. It’s weird i don’t even get very hard I’m just like at ponr immediately.

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