reverse kegel'd now a lot more difficult to ejaculate

[sonicpunk32 Member Find all posts View Profile Close sonicpunk32]

For the last couple weeks, I've been using reverse kegels to hold off my need to ejaculate. It was going great, I was reaching PONR, I was staving it off. Recently, I decided to try to do my favorite masturbating session with porn, but this time, to do it like I used to do it. That is without flexing anything or even trying at all to hold back anything. First 10 minutes, I was aroused. After that, I wasn't really reaching that PONR arousal level. I was erect, I could feel my BC muscle throbbing a bit as I stroked. But for some reason, here I am finding myself almost two hours in and I haven't ejaculated. I had to really pound it hard to get myself to ejaculate. And when I did ejaculate, it wasn't really satisfying. It was a weak orgasm, sort to speak.

So, is this normal? What have I done? I want to be able to have dry orgasms one day. It seems like my body is doing what I was doing manually with the flexing, all on it's own. That tingling feeling, I'm not getting it anymore. I have to work for it. I've also noticed that if I don't ejaculate in the first 15, 20 minutes, then the feeling of the ejaculation won't be satisfying. Have I messed up my brain or something?

[Wentworth Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Wentworth]

ive heard that after a certain amount of time(usually around the 15 minute mark) that you do possibly become desensitized from the stimulation, and you probably have been working hard training your brain to not want to ejaculate for a while or unless you are aroused. it sounds to me like your body is doing what you wanted it to, now that you arent flexing your pc muscles while masturbating your stamina has increased, this should make you able to ejaculate on command much like a porno actor, by kegeling/reverse kegeling or whatever you do to reach orgasm faster. many guys can kegel themselves into an orgasm while limp and many guys use it to stay away from orgasm. if i kegel i get much more aroused much faster, but if i am relaxed i can beat it for hours on end as well and not come, its just conditioning in your mind and body.

you might have just not been aroused either, sometimes i can sit around and beat off out of sheer boredom, and during these times orgasm is usually harder to achieve then when i am horny and masturbate, just depends on your mood i guess, i wouldnt base anything off of one bad masturbation session though. and also my orgasms arent as strong when im not as horny as normal either, sometimes they are strong and feel amazing, other times its like bleh

[sonicpunk32 Member Find all posts View Profile Close sonicpunk32]

you might have just not been aroused either, sometimes i can sit around and beat off out of sheer boredom

Even if I was bored at the stuff I was looking at or in general. I've been in that situation a few times in the distant past, and I'd still end up ejaculating normally, but prematurely.

you probably have been working hard training your brain to not want to ejaculate for a while...it sounds to me like your body is doing what you wanted it to

Probably. And if that's the case, then this is all more complicated than I thought. Who'd have thought that I've actually managed to retrain my nervous system to not do what it was originally programmed to do. I thought I was succeeding because my pelvic muscles were getting stronger. Maybe I'm wrong there?

Then again, the last time I masturbated and experienced what I'm talking about in the original post, it was on the day I had masturbated once, or twice, a day for 4 days straight. I'm going to have to see if my body still reacts this way since it's now been a few days since I last masturbated.

But still, in the past, if I'd masturbated for 4 days straight, I'd still ejaculate prematurely, 5 to 10 minutes in, no matter how many hours ago it was since I last masturbated.

There have been a few times in my life when I saw something that was so arousing to me, so extremely arousing, that I violently orgasmed and ejaculated right there on the spot without ever touching myself. I think the last time that happened to me was two years ago. ...I'm gonna work on doing that consciously.

[Wentworth Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Wentworth]

its never happened to me and im thankful for it, although to will it to happen would be really neat i think. i find that if i have a full erection and pull down on the skin of the shaft so it is a little tight but not uncomfortable, then start to kegel and reverse kegel, i can almost reach orgasm this way, very similar to when my girl is on top of me riding me hard, there isnt much thrusting in and out but rather deep inside and i must be involuntary kegeling during this time because when she is on top i can hardly last, which is a contradiction to most guys. with me, the more physical labor i do the harder it is for me to climax. also, try having some sex and see what happens, you might prematurely ejaculate again, its not a big deal obviously, but youll know that you havent broken your nervous system

[sonicpunk32 Member Find all posts View Profile Close sonicpunk32]

its never happened to me and im thankful for it

Really? Well, I wish it would happen again (the event, not the ejaculation). I mean, I was in the presence of one of my deepest desires that had manifested into reality. You can't really prepare yourself for something that only comes by for what seems like once in a lifetime.

[Wentworth Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Wentworth]

it feels like anymore i dont have any deep desires haha, its just nice to have my girl around on the weekends so i can get it in. im not even sure what would really turn me on that much, even when i was younger i never had the problems that some guys have of coming in their pants and whatnot, or while dancing with girls or making out etc. i guess im really turned on by a girl that takes control and not necessarily does all the work but maybe if she was really horny and just wanted the dick real badly, then thats a real turn on for me but even then i think id be able to last, idk i guess everyones different. either way back to the original problem, dont stress about it, try to get it in asap too, just do some girl rotten if you can and see what happens. i doubt its anything permanent and most likely mental

[Pegasus AdministratorPE Gym EditorPEGym Hero ☺ Admin of the Month Mar 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Pegasus]

Ok sonic" normally" your body will drive you to orgasm with unconcious kegels. These can be replaced with concious kegels done in a fast driving manner. By varying the kegels you can choose when to cum.

[Wentworth Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Wentworth]

heres another question, are you on a kegel workout routine? i heard some guys say it takes time to get used to the new muscles and your new abilities, it could be that youre just not used to it yet, just an idea i had.

[sonicpunk32 Member Find all posts View Profile Close sonicpunk32]

A kegel workout routine? Nope. I did however try to be on one in the distant past. Never really did anything for me.

[sonicpunk32 Member Find all posts View Profile Close sonicpunk32]

Ok sonic" normally" your body will drive you to orgasm with unconcious kegels. These can be replaced with concious kegels done in a fast driving manner. By varying the kegels you can choose when to cum.

I shall try this... today...

[sonicpunk32 Member Find all posts View Profile Close sonicpunk32]

Ok sonic" normally" your body will drive you to orgasm with unconcious kegels. These can be replaced with concious kegels done in a fast driving manner. By varying the kegels you can choose when to cum.

Alright, well I tried doing that. I did it during the first 15 minutes. I was trying my best to kegel my BC as I stroke. I couldn't get it to move that fast, it flexes and stays for at least two seconds at a time. So overall, didn't do anything for me. My erection was still all there though, just like normal. I was generating the normal amount of precum. So for the next 30 minutes, I just tried going faster, doing all the motions that in the past would bring me to ejaculate within seconds. Still nothing. It felt as though I was chasing after my own orgasm. Finally, in the last 5 minutes of this 45 minute session, I felt that tingle for a few seconds. I paused for a couple seconds. Tingle went away. Had to chase after it again. Last minute in, I caught it again, this time, I was doing that intense motion, so I got it, the tingle is there. It lasts for about 10 seconds, then boom, I ejaculated.

I don't know what I did this last couple weeks, but I think I somehow desensitised my penis. Which brings me to my next question. Does masturbating for 4 days straight, for one to two hours each day, have the effect of desensitizing your penis? I hope this isn't the start of something serious.

[Wentworth Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Wentworth]

Im not sure if it definitely desensitizes it, i usually only masturbate for a short amount of time as I feel that masturbating and sex are 2 different things(many guys disagree but hey to each his own). Maybe you need to get used to the new signals because you are trained to last longer. I can masturbate for hours on end should I wish to or I can masturbate and come in around 15 minutes, its whatever I prefer, which is always to finish up early. If masturbation and sex were in direct correlation with each other then why when im having sex cant I go for hours on end? I think you need to try having sex, you could possibly be getting bored with the porn and it isnt having the same effect as before, especially after at least 5 hours of masturbating over the course of 4 days, thats probably a months worth for me and I do it once or twice a day.

[sonicpunk32 Member Find all posts View Profile Close sonicpunk32]

Just an update to this: Turns out I wasn't desensitized at all. My muscles were just tired. I don't orgasm/ejaculate every time I masturbate, just about 1 out of every 4 times, but that's just my preference. Now that my muscles are more in my control, I choose when to ejaculate. But honestly, the pleasure I get from the muscle, um.. movements?, is enough for me that I don't need to ejaculate. But when I do ejaculate, it's awesome.

And um, despite the title of this thread, and after reading the other threads on this forum, I wasn't doing reverse kegeling when my "problem" occured. And I'll never do reverse kegeling, quite uncomfortable for me, and inconvenient. I learned something though, if you're erect, and if you gently strike your stomach (just above the penis), you will feel your pelvic muscles contract in a reflex.

Four years of worrying about premature ejaculation, out the window. Just awesome.

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If masturbation and sex were in direct correlation with each other then why when im having sex cant I go for hours on end? I think you need to try having sex, you could possibly be getting bored with the porn and it isnt having the same effect as before...

With my penis, there's no difference for me. It feels basically the same. Although, vaginal intercourse isn't as intense as hand stimulation, but that doesn't mean I don't like it in it's own way. Emotionally though, it's different in a lot of ways. I can feel my emotions burning in my heart when I'm with a girl. It's awesome. I think the difference between now, and four years ago, is that my body/spirit/subconscious doesn't let that energy seep into my perineum.

I'm having this nagging theory now that premature ejaculation is almost completely mental.

[kidwithPEproblems Member Find all posts View Profile Close kidwithPEproblems]

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Four years of worrying about premature ejaculation, out the window. Just awesome.[/QUOTE]

Haha thats awesome I'm happy for you. I'm dealing with this problem as well (I only last about 30sec) but your success is a real inspiration !