What we know so far about PE, its causes and its treatment

[KobeBryant Member Find all posts View Profile Close KobeBryant]

Thank you guys for your advice, this website is going to change my sexual life,well it already started
From now on practice practice practice...

[KobeBryant Member Find all posts View Profile Close KobeBryant]

Thank you guys for your advice, this website is going to change my sexual life,well it already started
From now on practice practice practice...

[spanky Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close spanky]

So good he said it twice!

Kobe, being on this site has made a huge difference to my life in so many positive ways, I couldn't begin.

Over to you.

[KobeBryant Member Find all posts View Profile Close KobeBryant]

Haha sorry for doble post I was writing it using my mobile so sometimes that happens xD
I was doing pe for last 9 days ( including 2 days off ) and yesterday
me and my gf were having sex and she said "hurts like it's my first time"
And I was like WHAT THE F*** and then i was like "oh you are so gonna get it"
And the rest is history
Im gonna make this my homepage screw google :P

[Sharpshooter Member Find all posts View Profile Close Sharpshooter]

This is a vital and really comprehensive thread, but for me it kind of highlights the one area that remains to be fully explored on this site - performance anxiety. As I've said in other threads, I've had real success on the physical side of things due to the great advice on this site but I'm still unable to transfer my skills to a sexual encounter. I don't think I'm alone with this - with practice I believe that anyone can get their solo stamina to where it needs to be but there still seems to be guys who give up on their training and the reason for this must be the effects of performance anxiety.

I know that the Arousal Techniques thread contains some great advice and addresses this subject to an extent but I feel that those techniques kind of refer to reacting to over-arousal and bringing arousal levels back down. (No offence intended to that thread btw, I've found it very beneficial) For me though, it's too late by the time I'm highly aroused.

I really believe that when it comes to sex and ejaculation that what will happen is what you think/believe will happen. The mind is that powerful. I also believe that if we can come up with some effective techniques to retrain our minds then the benefits would be massive. Unfortunately, I'm no psychologist and don't know how to go about replacing negative expectations with positive ones...

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Bygg might be able to give some hints on this if you post on his thread.

[Mike Hock Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Mike Hock]

Thanks for posting all that information, I will be working through the links later. There is another response to PE, in terms of preparing for sex, as sometimes the problem is infrequency of sex. In this case a wank an hour before you expect the big event works a treat, your body and mind arent desperate for a quick cum. Then there is the school of thought that wanking too much got us in this situation in the first place!! Thanks again

[spanky Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close spanky]

I took MDMA last night, and hours after fucked for about 25 minutes... hard... without stopping. Could have been longer easily too, as I still had to force myself to cum.

The only thing I can think is that this is Serotonin related, which has been mentioned before, re SSRIs and the like.

If so, does anyone know natural, legal ways of doing the same thing? For research purposes of course. St. John's Wort perhaps?

[Closed039 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Closed039]

I believe the way that MDMA works is that it takes all of your serotonin that is "in reserve" and activates it unnaturally. How long after taking it did you fuck...as in...were you still feeling the drug?

[spanky Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close spanky]

yeah it floods your brain basically. It was maybe 4 possibly 5 hours later, so still feeling something, but way past the peak.

Just masturbated,lik 19 or 20 hours aftr taking it and I was still the same. Nice furious ten minutes later..POW. So defintely something majorly different happening, this is how I feel like it's *supposed* to happen.

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I believe the way that MDMA works is that it takes all of your serotonin that is "in reserve" and activates it unnaturally. How long after taking it did you fuck...as in...were you still feeling the drug?

Actually I think the way a lot of these drugs work is being molecularly a very similar shape to neurotransmitters and other elements of brain chemistry, so they can attach to receptors, interfering with normal functions.

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Having masturbated earlier and basically cum as soon as I got hard (and since the mdma has worn off) I'm starting to seriously think that brain chemistry, specifically your serotonin level is way more important than we give credit.

On the one hand we clearly *can* work on PE physically, but it has turned sex into a physical control exercise for me. One that gets easier with practice, yes, but still one I have to keep aware of.

On the other, with a brain flooded with serotonin I could have fucked for hours and then just decided to ramp it up and go for orgasm entirely at will at any time. All the kegels and control in the world never gave me that effortless freedom, and even at my best I would still need to slow up and consciously control myself that way.

The difference is that in the first case, I'm chasing my body's responses to control them, but in the second, I'm choosing them entirely. And I mean entirely.

Yes I know it's drugs, and in my case here illegal ones, but I do wonder if a) the right course could adjust your brain chemistry permanently and b) if my youth of mdma and ecstasy abuse might have been responsible in the first place.

[spanky Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close spanky]

So I was just reading on wikipedia that MDMA increases oxytocin levels - something tabled by Shulgin and co as a contributory explanation of how its use was so effective therapeutically.

So I googled and came up with this little article whic also mentions the efficacy of SSRI drugs in treatment too[ http://scientopia.org/blogs/scicurio...-and-oxytocin/ ] - although this suggests that rapid ejaculation had correlation with decreased oxytocin .. so that's confusing with respect to my MDMA experience(s). It certainly seems to be a more well known activator than serotonin in general, even with the SSRI effect. So perhaps it's an indirect effect with the two things being related and oxytocin is the real culprit?

Well.. the research starts here, gonna have to have a dig, here and further afield, lets see what we can find out.

[dingdong123 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close dingdong123]

Having masturbated earlier and basically cum as soon as I got hard (and since the mdma has worn off) I'm starting to seriously think that brain chemistry, specifically your serotonin level is way more important than we give credit.

On the one hand we clearly *can* work on PE physically, but it has turned sex into a physical control exercise for me. One that gets easier with practice, yes, but still one I have to keep aware of.

On the other, with a brain flooded with serotonin I could have fucked for hours and then just decided to ramp it up and go for orgasm entirely at will at any time. All the kegels and control in the world never gave me that effortless freedom, and even at my best I would still need to slow up and consciously control myself that way.

The difference is that in the first case, I'm chasing my body's responses to control them, but in the second, I'm choosing them entirely. And I mean entirely.

Yes I know it's drugs, and in my case here illegal ones, but I do wonder if a) the right course could adjust your brain chemistry permanently and b) if my youth of mdma and ecstasy abuse might have been responsible in the first place.

i like this better than k/rk......effortless freedom

do you exercise daily ?

[dingdong123 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close dingdong123]

7. Over-secretion of pre-cum by the bulborethral glands – pre-cum contains Prostaglandin E-2 that stimulates ripening or opening of the ejaculation duct/valve as it does for a pregnant women's cervix during labor. My personal experience is: eliminating or reducing pre-cum can prolong lovemaking to 2 or 3 hours or have multiple orgasms without ejaculation. To prolong an erection for 2 or 3 hours, it requires a lot of hormones (DHEA, androstenedione, testosterone and estrogen) and neurochemicals to burn; otherwise, the penis will go numb and limp after one hour.

Note: Practicing PC muscular exercises will stimulate the bulborethral glands to produce more pre-cum and thus, trigger the prostate's ejaculation duct/valve to ripen (open) for ejaculation of semen. This exercise is good for women, but bad for men.

so any idea how do you reduce or eliminate ?