I was trying deep squats for a while and I'm not going to say they don't help whatsoever, but it wasn't until I started re-incorporating RK's that I noticed any improvement. I've only done it once so far but I was able to reach PONR totally relaxed, no stress in the legs whatsoever . I think us DE'ers are unknowingly holding a slight kegel as the intensity builds and this blocks ejaculation. In my experience my kegels while fully aroused are weak but it's even more difficult to do a reverse kegel. Unfortunately I think this will be a long process to remedy the situation. Abstinence is only a quick band-aid that falls off as soon as you masturbate the next time. Complete PF balance IMO is the only cure. I just need to dedicate more consistent time at developing a routine.
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Beginning stats: BPFSL 7 5/8" BPEL 7.25" EG 5.5"
Current: BPFSL 8 5/8" BPEL 8" EG 5.5"
Dan's log
https://www.pegym.com/forums/progress-forum/72045-dans-log.html
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Thanks for adding danimal, I have had some success with, quicker edging sessions, using lube and lighter grip.
I think I am holding a light kegel, as well as the tense legs and butt thing to keep my mind focused on the sensations in that area, then when close to PONR completely relaxing and apply reverse kegel via deep breathing."Those who know others have knowledge,
those who know themselves have insight.
Those who master others have force,
those who master themselves have strength". - Lao Tzu
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I agree the pelvic floor( pf) is not acting in the normal way for guys with DE . Anxiety is implicated as a factor causing the pf misfunction. I found if I could start ejaculating with a given partner it got easier.
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Anxiety definitely makes the problem worse, that's one thing I've known that for a long time. It seems the core issue with PE and DE are the same but with very different outcomes. This is one thing I love about this site is that even though there isn't much info on DE here (threads like this will help compile a database) this is the only source of info I've found on the web that actually takes it seriously.Originally posted by Pegasus View PostAnxiety is implicated as a factor causing the pf misfunction.Beginning stats: BPFSL 7 5/8" BPEL 7.25" EG 5.5"
Current: BPFSL 8 5/8" BPEL 8" EG 5.5"
Dan's log
https://www.pegym.com/forums/progress-forum/72045-dans-log.html
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Thanks Pegasus, the last few times having sex with the Mrs have definitely got better, the last time I did have to resort to my old method of withdrawing, masturbating, then re-penetrating but it was for a twenty seconds at most. The time before this there was no need to do this.
I think there needs to be a name for the method of withdrawing, masturbating and re-penetrating to shorten it a bit, I was thinking - The Work and Jerk."Those who know others have knowledge,
those who know themselves have insight.
Those who master others have force,
those who master themselves have strength". - Lao Tzu
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Well if you all are trying to have a kid the "shake and bake" might be more apt.
Beginning stats: BPFSL 7 5/8" BPEL 7.25" EG 5.5"
Current: BPFSL 8 5/8" BPEL 8" EG 5.5"
Dan's log
https://www.pegym.com/forums/progress-forum/72045-dans-log.html
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This has come up a few times onsite you might search for old material to add to this thread . But it could be time consuming.Originally posted by danimal1211 View PostAnxiety definitely makes the problem worse, that's one thing I've known that for a long time. It seems the core issue with PE and DE are the same but with very different outcomes. This is one thing I love about this site is that even though there isn't much info on DE here (threads like this will help compile a database) this is the only source of info I've found on the web that actually takes it seriously.
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I admit that I was a little vague in that but at least in all the threads I have found, there hasn't been nearly the amount of focus on DE as there has been on PE. I understand the social stigmatism around PE but at least they know they're going to finish. The medical community's opinion is much more dismal in that I must be a chronic masturbator (which I'm not nor have ever been). Anyway, I owe appreciation to you and many others on this site that I at least see a pathway forward to hopefully solve a problem I otherwise thought I was just going to have to live with.Originally posted by Pegasus View PostThis has come up a few times onsite you might search for old material to add to this thread . But it could be time consuming.Beginning stats: BPFSL 7 5/8" BPEL 7.25" EG 5.5"
Current: BPFSL 8 5/8" BPEL 8" EG 5.5"
Dan's log
https://www.pegym.com/forums/progress-forum/72045-dans-log.html
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i like it haha. i just feel it wud kinda be abit awkward if u just pull out and start jacking off?Originally posted by burtybasset View PostThe Work and Jerk.Initial stats - 27th May 2014:
BPEL - 6.15"
EG - 4.7"
Current:
BPEL - 7.3"
EG - 4.7"
Short term Goal:
BPEL - 7.5"
EG - 5"
Long term Goal:
BPEL - 8"
EG - 5.5"
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Not really awkward if your comfortable with yourself and your partner, I do this (I'm not that shy when I have my lady naked) and always re-penetrate when I'm about to orgasm/ejaculate.Originally posted by GrowStrong View Posti like it haha. i just feel it wud kinda be abit awkward if u just pull out and start jacking off?
I believe it's essentially training my body to be more responsive to my wife's vagina and less to my own hands, decreasing the amount of time spent masturbating each time we have sex."Those who know others have knowledge,
those who know themselves have insight.
Those who master others have force,
those who master themselves have strength". - Lao Tzu
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yeah i really like that idea of weening yourself from masturbation like that. i have DE aswell but my girl n i have only recently started having sex so cud be abit awks if i started doin that. maybe in time, but for now im just staying away from porn and not going to wank without lube n a lighter grip. if that doesnt work, ill give what your doing a go.Originally posted by burtybasset View PostNot really awkward if your comfortable with yourself and your partner, I do this (I'm not that shy when I have my lady naked) and always re-penetrate when I'm about to orgasm/ejaculate.
I believe it's essentially training my body to be more responsive to my wife's vagina and less to my own hands, decreasing the amount of time spent masturbating each time we have sex.Initial stats - 27th May 2014:
BPEL - 6.15"
EG - 4.7"
Current:
BPEL - 7.3"
EG - 4.7"
Short term Goal:
BPEL - 7.5"
EG - 5"
Long term Goal:
BPEL - 8"
EG - 5.5"
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Good luck buddy! Feel free to add to the thread if you have any brainwaves or experiences improving your DE.Originally posted by GrowStrong View Postyeah i really like that idea of weening yourself from masturbation like that. i have DE aswell but my girl n i have only recently started having sex so cud be abit awks if i started doin that. maybe in time, but for now im just staying away from porn and not going to wank without lube n a lighter grip. if that doesnt work, ill give what your doing a go."Those who know others have knowledge,
those who know themselves have insight.
Those who master others have force,
those who master themselves have strength". - Lao Tzu
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cheers man will doOriginally posted by burtybasset View PostGood luck buddy! Feel free to add to the thread if you have any brainwaves or experiences improving your DE.
Initial stats - 27th May 2014:
BPEL - 6.15"
EG - 4.7"
Current:
BPEL - 7.3"
EG - 4.7"
Short term Goal:
BPEL - 7.5"
EG - 5"
Long term Goal:
BPEL - 8"
EG - 5.5"
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I'm having much the same problem, I have to be very rough with her and even that takes a very long time and she ends up very sore
I've stopped masturbating more than once a week.
2 years ago I was going at it 4 times a day and even more in highschool. Alas no help there.Last edited by Pazuzu; 06-16-2014, 06:34 AM.
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Try using lube when you do masturbate, with a lighter grip, also maybe the work and jerk method may help when having sex and try balancing your pelvic floor as danimal suggests.Originally posted by Pazuzu View PostI'm having much the same problem, I have to be very rough with her and even that takes a very long time and she ends up very sore
I've stopped masturbating more than once a week.
2 years ago I was going at it 4 times a day and even more in highschool. Alas no help there.
Good luck!"Those who know others have knowledge,
those who know themselves have insight.
Those who master others have force,
those who master themselves have strength". - Lao Tzu
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