Question about edging

[FossilHead Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close FossilHead]

So you're a hair-trigger, so to speak.......how short is your refractory period?

You might consider purposely getting yourself off / ejaculating just shortly prior to having sex with your girlfriend, which should allow you to last notably longer during Round 2.

Just a thought to maybe use while you continue to practice delaying your first ejaculation.
If you do try this, make sure to FEEL what is going on during Round 2 so that you can work to apply any knowledge to upcoming Round 1's.

[tango1 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close tango1]

Ahh yeah, I guess longer days/ being tired etc leading to less willpower makes sense. I'm a bit let down by myself. I know I shouldn't but at least it'll help spur me on to not doing it again. And I think setting shorter goals might be a better idea. More realistic then I guess and it'll be a nice way to build it up. Thanks feelsgood.

Fossilhead, my refractory period is about 15 minutes. And I'd probably have to sit there constantly stimulating penis etc to try and get an erection back any quicker. I think I did something along the lines of your suggestion this morning actually. I had sex with my girlfriend last night which was probably 15-20 minutes foreplay, but only a couple of minutes of PIV sex. But this morning, I was able to last longer (which I am normally able to do anyways). But I tried to really see what was going on in terms of my body and what was triggering what. I'll give your idea about ejaculating before having sex so it's essentially a round 2, a go and see how that stands. Thanks for the advice!

[longerlastingnoob Senior Member Member of the Month Jan 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close longerlastingnoob]

Forget about getting one out before you have sex, work on round 1 no point trying to cheat it won't work.

[tango1 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close tango1]

I suppose solving the root problem makes sense LLN. Immediate remedies might help symptoms, but won't cure the cause. Thanks for the input

Log for 22/01/16 - 29/01/16

I'm coming up to the end of a placement at university so have been doing some pretty terrible shifts and some days haven't actually done anything - bit of a shame, but I thought it would be better than a half-hearted attempt.

I've noticed a few differences when edging this week - some not so good. Currently, I aim to edge for 10 minutes at low arousal (with reverse kegels every 10-15 seconds to keep arousal low; this also keeps my EQ around 60%) and then I aim to increase arousal and edge for increasing periods of time near PONR. Once I stop doing the continuous rhythmic reverse kegels - it takes longer to get to PONR than it used to. I think this is a good thing (showing signs of overcoming PE), but my EQ is quite low (potentially worrying).
Also, if I push a kegel at low arousals to try and increase EQ/ get closer to PONR, I feel it does this while the kegel is held, but as soon as I let go, I'm further away from PONR or at a lower EQ than I was before I pushed the kegel - slightly more worrying.
Further to this, there have been 2 occasions where I get so close to PONR that I have to push a really hard kegel to resist going over, and lose my erection completely (without proper ejaculation).

On the plus side, I've been better in terms of willpower when near PONR and so generally have been better at edging closer to PONR. There's been a couple of times where I've come close to PONR, I've stopped stimulation and I feel my body wanting to force an IK but I push a really hard RK to resist it and resist going over PONR. Hopefully soon enough, the reflex for IK will be overcome completely.

22/01/16: 15 minutes reverse kegel routine (at this point, still doing 3 second kegel, followed immediately by 7 second reverse kegel = 90 of each). I had sex with my girlfriend this day. At night it was 15-20 minutes foreplay but only a few minutes of PIV sex. In the morning it was longer (as it always is in the morning), and probably went on for about 5 minutes for continuous PIV sex, without having to stop to slow down arousal.

23/01/16: 15 minutes rk routine, same as above. I edged for 20 minutes in total. 15 minutes while at low arousal and 5 minutes near PONR. Ejaculated as I wasn't in control.

24/01/16: 15 minutes rk routine, same as above. Edged for 17 minutes. This was the first day I noticed the complete loss of erection during edging when pushing a hard kegel near PONR. Before this, I was able to delay some advances to PONR and overcome some IKs with a reverse kegel

25/01/16: 3 minutes deep squat. Edged for 20 minutes. Only 12 minutes at low arousal this time, and 7 minutes near PONR but ejaculated as wasn't in control.

26/01/16: Didn't do any of the routine this day. However total edging was 22 minutes. 14 minutes at low arousal and 8 minutes near PONR. On this day, I was again able to resist some advances towards PONR by pushing a reverse kegel but at one point when I got too close to PONR during the stimulation and had to push a hard kegel to resist going over PONR and so lost my erection completely.

27-29/01/16: didn't do anything these days as I was doing very weird shifts and was super tired.

[tango1 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close tango1]

Log for 30/01/16 - 06/02/16

Overall in the last week I've gotten more comfortable with edging near PONR. When I'm near PONR and at high arousal, I can feel light IKs with every stroke. I push light RKs all the time pretty much. When I get super close to PONR, I can feel hard IKs, which would cause me to ejaculate even if I stop stimulation at that point (I tried out my theory once to see if it was true, and it was). I try and stay at an arousal just before this.

If I get super close to PONR, I try to push hard RKs to overcome the hard reflex IK. If I am at PONR, I can feel the IK overcome my RK and I then have to push a hard front kegel in order to resist going over PONR. My EQ always goes down at least a bit after this, sometimes it goes away completely. I could probably get it back by increasing rate/ arousal level but usually have this as my time to stop the session.

Deep squats are getting more comfortable so I'm going to aim to push up to 5 or 6 minutes in this next coming week.

I'm feeling more isolation with my kegel exercise. I don't have to tense my abs as much and also I'm feeling that it's defnitely coming from the forward part rather than around my anus. (If I push hard, my anus seems to get more involved)

30/01/16: I did a 15 minute RK routine. I'm now doing 4 seconds front kegel followed by 6 seconds reverse kegel (90 each). I had sex with my girlfriend so no edging today. I now take it a lot slower to start to try and keep arousal as low as possible (but this is very difficult). So it does last a bit longer than it used to, but if I increase the rate of thrusting, PONR comes as quick as it ever used to. Gradual build ups are definitely the way forward for me. I need to also start committing to slowing down when I'm getting nearer to PONR but usually start/stop methods aren't very good for my gf.

31/01/16: No kegel or deep squat routine. Edged for 18 minutes (6 near PONR at high arousal). No ejaculation. But the session finishes because I got too close to PONR and had to push a hard normal kegel and lost EQ.

01/02/16: 4 minutes deep squat. 15 minutes RK routine (as above with 4 second normal, 6 second reverse). Edged for 25 minutes in total (7 near PONR at high arousal) and again no ejaculate, but had to stop because of pushing normal kegel and losing EQ.

02/02/16: 4 minutes deep squat. No RK routine today. Edged for 24 minutes in total (6 min near PONR at high arousal). No ejaculate.

03/02/16: No deep squat today. 15 minutes RK routine (same as above). No edging today

04/02/16: Rest day. And had sex again. Took it slow and lasted for a bit longer than usual but as I mentioned above, as soon as I increase the tempo, I get highly aroused and PONR comes too quickly. I try to do intermittent RKs throughout but then I feel like I'm not focussed on the experience and I'm just doing it to beat my old time.

05/02/16: 4 minutes deep squat. No RK routine or edging today.

06/02/16: 4 minutes deep squat. 15 minutes RK routine (same as above, 90 pushes for each with 4 seconds front kegel and 6 seconds reverse kegel). Edged for about 20 minutes and ejaculated (half out of choice, half out of getting too close to PONR). I enjoyed it rather than beat myself up for not going for longer.

[closed260 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close closed260]

Good to see your progress, and especially your last post "I enjoyed it rather than beat myself up"! Keep up the efforts. Sometimes you go past PONR, sometimes you over ReverseKegel and lose EQ, but either way you are gaining experience with your arrousal sensations and learning to enjoy the "plateau".

[tango1 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close tango1]

I haven't updated this in a while. I've been keeping a note of it elsewhere and will update it in more of a summary form.

I've started doing 6-7 minute deep squats at a time and I've started doing 40:60 (kegel: reverse kegel) routine because I feel my normal kegel isn't as strong as it used to be and I may be nearing a more balanced PF.

I still have prem-E and my edging has been pretty bad in the last couple of weeks. I was on a good roll of edging near PONR for a while and enjoying the high arousal period. More recently, I've not really had time to edge properly and so I'm only doing it once every 4-5 days and then I always cave into ejaculating very quickly. I've got finals coming up for my university course so time is quite limited right now. I'm hoping that by posting on here I'll pep up my willpower to overcome prem-E though and keep at it with the plateau edging. I feel like I haven't had any consistent training with that; and it's definitely my next hurdle. I'll continue to do deep squats for longer periods of time, but I feel pretty good with my kegel/reverse kegel routine. Now that I'm back in the same city as my gf, I'll be meeting her more regularly than just once a week. This might be a bad thing because when I'm with her, I almost always cave into ejaculating (because going slow for the whole time doesn't seem to be what she wants). I'll try and work around it though.

Thanks to everyone who's commented so far. I felt that my lack of willpower lately has probably been associated with my lack of input into my thread, so maybe a more thorough logging on would help too.