Solved routine cure my premature ejaculation - Feedback needed - Will post progress.

[RalphPhoLauren Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close RalphPhoLauren]

also how do you hindi squat on the toilet?

[JanTantra Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close JanTantra]

Umm Jan many would consider you at sex god stage now . Not many women want to go more than 30 min btw.

I know, but I do not feel that consistent control yet. As an example; my girlfriend has been sick for a couple of weeks and she began to feel better, we had sex again. The first night I blew it really fast, which I actually never do. I think we were just too excited and she was controlling the tempo. However the next night I had very good control, so I guess it is normal.

But I would like to have good control in every situations, and I would also like to be able to thrust faster and deeper for a longer duration. One thing that is my ultimate goal is, if I could fuck her until she gets orgasms during thrusting alone, i.e. using no fingers at all while fucking her.

Hey Jan, what do you think has been the most important step in helping you last longer? You say you can go fast for as long as you want in missionary! thats awesome dude! Is that with a real women or?

The most important step is definitely edging, edging for an hour being able to relax. I edge with a tighter grip than I was used to. First I began on the shaft, then moving to the head. Now it is just mayhem all over. I really like it. I focusing on not getting IKs to this RKs helps, sometimes during edging I hold me breath and press a hard RK to stretch down there, where I am focusing on the front RK.

Maybe not fast for as long as I want, but around 2 minutes. The important thing is to feel when you are about to come and then be able to just slow down, without stopping the thrusting. Since it is completely normal to change tempo during sex. I just slow down and do long and slow deep thrusting for a minute or so before fasten the tempo slowly again. My girlfriend loves that.

Some times I do however feel that I can continue forever, but unfortunately my girlfriends sometimes stops me or changes position.

also how do you hindi squat on the toilet?

I do not do hindi squats ON the toilet. I just do it after each toilet visit, so you could also do it in another room afterwards.

I do it just as a habit to relax everything down there, especially after taking a dump and when I am at work it is then easier just to do it afterwards on the bathroom.

[swonpepmp Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close swonpepmp]

Haven't edged the last two days since my girlfriend was ill, so she didn't left the house, however we tried to have sex yesterday before bedtime. It was slow due to her stomach pains, and I did notice a bit better control than I used to, since it was slow I focused on not IK when penetrating, and I felt I had kinda good control. Unfortunately we never got up to speed because we had to stop due to her pains. I totally accepted that and just stopped without any questions and without being aroused and feel the need to finish. So we just kissed and cuddled, it was kinda nice actually. And I really felt she like me being in better not so over-aroused control.

Any way todays edging session alone
It was a really nice session today. I started out with my new routine. However I wanted a long session today, so started with 10 minutes rubbing instead og 7 minutes, then 10 minutes stroking. Lastly I took 25 minutes of free play with DeathGrip at the tip of penis, rubbing, ballooning etc. and I was really enjoying it. I had one real PONR where I had to stop all stimulation and do a hard reverse-kegel, I was so close to PONR that I found it hard to do the reverse-kegel, but at one point I just relaxed which resulted in a small regular-kegel and then right back in reverse-kegel. It felt like I was kinda catching the IK and arousal with a regular-kegel and then just immediately slammed a touchdown in the ground with a reverse-kegel. It was so great and I was just lying there and smiling while I hold the reverse-kegel. There did come a lot of pre-cum, but it was totally clear in color, not white as usual. I just dried it off and continued edging, since I was stille very much erected.

I would normally have done only tip DeathGrip (see the GIFs) in my last post. However I found a new way to really be on the edge of PONR which I wanted to explore some more. I stretched the sheets on the duvet and which a tight grip around my penis I was grinding the head of my penis against the sheets. I found that my pee-hole is actually my most sensitive spot. And grinding it against the sheet was much more intense then when I rub it with my hand palm. I almost had the feeling like 5 seconds before I cum with a blowjob, were I feel my whole body wants to shake. At first I could only hold 10 seconds before I needed to do some other stimulation, but slowly I build up to 30 seconds while being relaxed. I will work more on that since it was almost like an intense PONR.


All in all a really great session today.

I had something similar happen while edging today. I was actually in utter disbelief as I had just held a reverse kegel while changing positions edging and by the time I was in the next position I was letting out a small stream of precum...enough to completely soak my member and lube me up even more (it was not cum, completely clear and lube like). I really have never experienced an ejaculation or anything along these lines with absolutely no feelings of orgasm. It wasn't ejaculation I don't believe as it was completely clear and not a bit sticky...very odd. I lost a small amount of EQ when it happened and was right back to a 9 a few strokes later.

I appreciate all your logging as you progress forward to beating PreE. I as well have some PreE issues and have already seen improvement utilizing techniques described on these forums.

[JanTantra Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close JanTantra]

I can now finally say that I have fixed my long life Pre-E.!!!


I have been 'fixed' for around 3 month now.


I know that I haven't updated too much lately here on the gym, however I did continuing with my training.


As the ones whom have been following my journey in my log know, I have been trying various things, but mostly I was focused on the DeathGrip. I.e. doing it very hard and also focused on the head.


In the beginning I had the idea that I needed to harness the head, I did also wear a glans ring that kept my foreskin retracted to expose the head.


I did this in many different ways and for about a year, I could edge 1 hour, but I couldn't really transfer it to sex. And also I do no longer have the time to edge that much. It was just too much to fit in in a packed schedule.

Then I suddenly realised while I had sex, that I always was able to do it slowly while fingering and rubbing my wife's clitoris. But whenever she got horny and just wanted me to fuck her hard I couldn't for more than 15, 30 or 60 seconds. My main problem was continues thrusting and I noticed that everytime my wife came by me rubbing her clitoris I then finished afterwards by just fucking her hard for 15-30 seconds and that was it.


My wife was satisfied, but I was not that much, I was missing the feeling of power (to be hornest)..


Then one day when I was about to take a shower before work and before my wife got up I saw some 'baby oil' and wented for a wet quickie before work. It was really nice and the most important thing I noticed was that my standard masturbation technique since I was a kid was to just do it at the shaft (I did know that), but also the SPEED was soo important. I just did medium controllable speed and then when I wanted to cume I speeded up and came in seconds.


The SPEED is the key (for me at least). As soon as I increase the speed I beging to thing I need to "Kegel, reverse kegel, relax etc." because I am used to cum at that speed.




Using that observation and being tired of no time to edging sessions lasting 1 hour. And also being tired of pushing reverse kegels all day long (In meeting, when talking to people, while walking) with no progress in bed at all, I just got more tense.


I planned to try the following routine:

1. No normal kegels at all. If you notice when you get horny that you sort of kegel automatically then stop standard kegel. And just stop kegelling. You muscles are probably fine if you have a decent erection. I think many sexterapist just mentioning kegels because they never had Pre-E themselves.


2. Everytime after peeing I do not kegel to get the last urin out, instead I use a finger to push on the pelvic floor / million dollar spot, this triggers the last urin to come out. I then massage gently for 15-30 seconds while trying to relax. (Without forcing it. Just think a slight pushing out of the anus.)


3. Everytime after taking a dump I stand up afterwards and pee the last drop out, and then does the same as above. (I figured that this got me more relaxed after).


4. I have 15 minutes drive in car to work, so while sitting there I relax, just pushing or actually maybe just mentally thinking that I push my anus out and relax my pelvic floor. (But do not force push at all, I have tried that and it only made me more tense instead of relaxing). You might not feel it helps the first 5 minutes but after 15 minutes, I actually feel I am a bit more relaxed. At least mentally.
4.1 Do the same on the way home.


5. For the rest of the day do not stress your self regarding more reverse kegels, the above is enough. (I have tried more and it didn't help.)


6. The actual edging. In the beginning I did this every day before showering, but now I just do every now and then. Take some baby oil, I like this because it does not get too wet and hence gives a bit more friction and becomes warm. And then just masturbate wild and crazy in a regious speed. Also have a tight/medium grip, but that is not the most important. The most important is the speed. It should be so fast that you after 15 seconds begins to forget to breath and gets tired. Then slow down, but always focus really much on the frenulum while doing so. I try to do it with two hands and sort of thrusting into the hands so that you always has friction on the frenulum. Train it as interval training for running. You will notice that you will become greater to handle the high speed and that the slower pace becomes sooo much easier. Also do the masturbation standing, so that you can make some sort of thrusting movements while you move you hands with high speed. I do this for like 10-15 minutes at the morning and sometimes 30 minutes when I have the time. I do not always cum, but most of the times I do allow my self to cum now. This is because I noticed from my earlier edging sessions, that I never got to a really intense level if I never came. It was like my brain knew that I wouldn't allow my selve to cum, hence I didn't trained for real sex.


7. I tried many fleshlight, but wasn't too impress they are not tight enough. I however tried "Pipedream Extreme Toyz Tight Grip Pussy & Ass Masturbator" and that is really great. I do not use it too often because I hate cleaning before work, but I use it sometimes and put a finger in the other end of it that gives good suction and really intense of frelunum. The down site of this is that the two of them that I have bought does broke after a while. But it can still be used anyway.


8. A bit of the mental focus also, when your girlfriend / wife does not want to have sex, then instead og begging, then just try to say okay well maybe a next week or next week after. They often find it funny, and it helps you to not bee so controlled by your lust. Slowly try to relax instead of the involuntary kegels and you will soon control them.




The above is some easy steps that have help me. I have used the approach in about 3 months and then I began to transfer it to sex. And the last 3 months I have just been fucking my wife really nice.


Good Luck!!

[iwillbeatit Member Find all posts View Profile Close iwillbeatit]

thanks for your infromation.. i will reach out to it.

[theGOAT Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close theGOAT]

Bump

Read the last post of my friend JanTantra.He isnt posting anymore, so most probably he wont answer you, but I find his post valuble.It may help some of you.

[WillGetBetter Senior Member Member of the Month Nov 2018 Find all posts View Profile Close WillGetBetter]

Good progress report/thread.

I like how he set a specific goal at the beginning. I think that is very important for tracking progress and staying focused.

I also like how he used RK and speed of thrusting to improve. Those were both important for me.

[Chief3nick Member Find all posts View Profile Close Chief3nick]

Has anyone worked this speed theory? It makes sense to a degree. You play how you practice and slowly edging with no real challenge doesn’t mean anything.

I’m curious how to go about going as fast as possible, letting the ponr hit, balloon a little, then go back. Wouldn’t that just bring your ponr up? Should we go extremely fast and get to a 7 and then slow it down a little? Thoughts appreciated as I try and work on this.

[theGOAT Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close theGOAT]

Has anyone worked this speed theory? It makes sense to a degree. You play how you practice and slowly edging with no real challenge doesn’t mean anything.

I’m curious how to go about going as fast as possible, letting the ponr hit, balloon a little, then go back. Wouldn’t that just bring your ponr up? Should we go extremely fast and get to a 7 and then slow it down a little? Thoughts appreciated as I try and work on this.

Best way to find is to try it for 3-4 months and evaluate.I am on this path currently, still plenty of time to go

[Sherman2921 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Sherman2921]

6. The actual edging. In the beginning I did this every day before showering, but now I just do every now and then. Take some baby oil, I like this because it does not get too wet and hence gives a bit more friction and becomes warm. And then just masturbate wild and crazy in a regious speed. Also have a tight/medium grip, but that is not the most important. The most important is the speed. It should be so fast that you after 15 seconds begins to forget to breath and gets tired. Then slow down, but always focus really much on the frenulum while doing so. I try to do it with two hands and sort of thrusting into the hands so that you always has friction on the frenulum. Train it as interval training for running. You will notice that you will become greater to handle the high speed and that the slower pace becomes sooo much easier. Also do the masturbation standing, so that you can make some sort of thrusting movements while you move you hands with high speed. I do this for like 10-15 minutes at the morning and sometimes 30 minutes when I have the time. I do not always cum, but most of the times I do allow my self to cum now. This is because I noticed from my earlier edging sessions, that I never got to a really intense level if I never came. It was like my brain knew that I wouldn't allow my self to cum, hence I didn't trained for real sex.

Hey, I have a few clarifying questions. So basically for this exercise, you masturbate as fast as you can until you get close to the PONR. Once near PONR, you RK and slow down to get your arousal back under control? And then once you get your arousal under control again you speed up again and masturbate until you are close to the PONR? Then you slow down again and repeat?

this sounds very helpful to me but I am a tad confused. Hope my question isn't really obvious.

[troublecouple2aa Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close troublecouple2aa]

Back to the DeathGrip, yeehaw!!
After a bit experimentation, which lead to ordering "Stoya Destroya" and "Obsession Bliss" fleshlights, I am back to the DeathGrip.

Today I had a session of 35 minutes, I wanted it to be longer, but my girlfriend was on her way home, so I just stopped. I did not ejaculate. I love the feeling of a used dick after such a session.

I did it dry and to begin with I retracted my foreskin and hold it back while stroking and rubbing the head and shaft with the other hand (the grip was tight, but not so tight that I couldn't stroke without moving the skin back and forth, i.e. I was rubbing the whole part head and shaft.) I did this for 7 minutes.

Then I went on to a tighter grip which then became more jelqing like feeling of the shaft alone for another 7 minutes. (I did this because of my earlier described experiences where I felt my girlfriend's tight pussy was jelqing me.)

In the above two I had much control and could easily continue. I use them to desensitize me a bit.

I then tried short and fast strokes just below the head. It was very intense and I felt PONR in 30 seconds, much like the feeling I have in real sex when I feel that I am loosing control, and that my pelvic floor begins to tense up without being able to do anything about it. It has been 3-4 months since I have been looking porn, since I have stopped, however I remembered that this grip was used a lot when the male pornstar needed to cum in the end.

I just googled some gifs, and indeed this grip is used by all of them:
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From now on I will focus on this intense grip in the end of every session. If I can control that and keep my arousal low with that grip I believe I can do it in real sex also. And now I think of it, THIS must be the 'real' DeathGrip, when guys are getting used to that in the beginning of masturbation in the teenage years they end up with a great stamina.

I spend 20 minutes with this intense grip and the number of PONR and duration of each continues stroking was much the same as when I practice edging with my girlfriend in doggy style. I believe this might be a way to compare the intense feeling of stimulation. I will practice to increase the duration with this grip and see if the effect will reflect in real sex also.

I am much confidence that this will work!

This is the most funny thing ever because I started to do the same after watching some cumming gifs online, things that I saw and thought to myself like "How can these guys do this?" you know? Simple things like< urls removed >.
It may look normal but it was impossible for me.

I mean I used to cum normally but I've always wanted some more intense I guess, and I always see these guys doing unbelieaveble things and I started trying that on myself.

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Bumb.

I think this could really help someone. I do know that most of the old guys in here better like the edging for a long long time idea, but this might help those where they don’t have time for edging or can’t transfer it to real sex.

I did most often 15min at maximum, but rarely I did it for 30minutes if I was alone and bored / horny.

[Nicolasnake Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Nicolasnake]

Hey Jan, so during your edging u masturbate in a fast speed right?
If I do that right know I feel the PONR in few minutes.
So do u think I should continue like this?

[JanTantra Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close JanTantra]

Yes and make sure that you get it really intense on the head.

When you are cuming, then continue even though it is intense feeling on the head and at the same time try to think about pushing a reverse kegel within a minute or maybe a little more the first couples of times the intensity drops and you can masturbate again. Then masturbate for a couple of minutes even though you just ejaculated and then now it is a lot easier to push the reverse kegel.

The above will train you through the intensity and then also after that has dropped it will train you to actually do and feel and RK properly while having sex/edging because you are a little more relaxed after ejaculation you are more sure you are learning it right. And slowly you will be better and better to control it before ejaculation.

When I have sex now it is not like I am pushing a strong RK all the time - it is just whenever I feel I need to gain control I push a light one just to get my mind right and make sure I am not getting tense down there. It is actually quite nice now. I can do standard kegel to increase the feeling and then RK to decrease and gain control. Using that technique I can fuck in doggy for a long time now