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After several months of no gains then a loss in size after trying new things I began to get completely pissed off any time I thought of doing pe. So I figured it was best just to go away for a while and come back when I felt better about it.
I took a month and a half off and started doing a light to get back in the swing of things. I haven't measured anything yet but I will soon and I hope to keep this log more detailed than the last.
My main focus will be to knock out as much length gain as possible then go to girth but if I still don't gain length after a while I'm going to switch my focus to girth.

I'll post more later

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Good luck JB. I'm interested in hearing about your approach to gain some length. You made a good decision in stepping away from the game for awhile. It helps sort of reset the psyche a little bit.

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Yea breaks are always a good thing especially when your frustrated.

While I was on my break I had time to think of all that I've read and learned from my own experiences and started putting ideas together for a routine that should produce gains for me after a long plateau.

Less is more- Every time I tried something more intense I usually stopped gaining or lost eq

Breaks are good- When I first started Pe'ing I got sick at about the 6 week mark and didn't have the energy to pe for a week. I had already measured a 1/4 inch gain in el a few days before I started getting sick. After I got better I noticed my penis looked even bigger so I measured again and I had gained another 1/4 inch in El after a week break.

Kegals and Edging are awesome- Before I kegaled and edged I had an eq of 8 on a good day and the longest I had ever lasted while having sex was 20 min maybe. Last night I went for 2 hours and was rock hard the whole time.

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Heat is important- I've always found that if I have a 10-15 min warmup to start then keep re-applying heat it feels like I have a more efficient session.

Jelqing doesn't help girth- I know that some people gain a good amount of girth with just jelqing but that isn't the case for me.

Penis breathing is good-I find that along with re-applying heat, getting 3 or 4 erections during my routine keeps the blood flowing and it feels like I have a better session.

Bed Fowfers help flaccid- I've found that if I do 20 min of bed fowfers after a session I always have a better flaccid hang the next day then when I don't do them.


While thinking about all of what I've learned I've come up with a basic outline of how my routine will progress over the next few months.
As of 3-13-10 my routine is:

10-15 min warmup
12 min of jelqing ( 5 sec strokes)
12 min of stretching (5-way)
5 light 10 sec squeezes
20 min Edging

And my measurements are:

Fl: 4-4.5
Bpsfl: 7
El: 5.75
Bpel: 6.5
Eg mid: 4.5
Eg base: 4.75
Eq: 7-8


I'm treating this like I'm starting all over again so all prior measurements are forgotten and I'm looking forward to new and bigger measurements in the future.

Goal- To be able to wear a magnum condom(whatever size that may be)

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I like your approach, jb. Good luck in your renewed effort.

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I've been having pretty good pi's this week since I've restarted. Better flaccid hang, more frequent random erections, and slightly better eq.
It may be too soon to tell but I believe in putting all my learnings together I have found a way to get back to gaining. I have been following the routine I posted exactly on a schedule of 2 on 1 off but tonight I may do a half session. The time change has still got me out of wack and I don't want to force a routine when I don't feel like doing it.

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I don't want to force a routine when I don't feel like doing it.

Yeah, I know what you mean jb. Definitely better to skip the workout if it's going to lack in quality, which I know mine usually do when I'm not really into it. Good job man. You seem to be doing well with the positive P.I.s coming back.

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I had to miss a session the other night because the girlfriend decided to give my penis a different kind of workout and it was too tired to do my routine after.
Tonight I had a great session and every exercise felt productive.
Instead of doing 12 min of 5-way stretches I did 9 min of 4-way stretches then did 3 min of internal stretches. I also increased my sqeezes to 5 20 sec holds. I'm hoping the squeezes will work the smooth muscle enough to keep my bpel in check with my bpsfl.

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The past few days I've noticed my flaccid hang and eq have started to drop. It may be time to take a week off. I had planned to pe for 6 weeks then take a week off to recoup but I think he's saying its time. I'll finish out the week and see how it feels and if it feels like its time for a break then so be it.

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Took it easy tonight. I had a nice long 30 min warm up getting an erection every 5 min or so to really get the blood flowing then jelqed lightly and slowly for 10 min with 5 min of very light stretches after.
My flaccid varried quite a bit throughout the day. One minute it would be hanging good then the next it would be shribbled up like I was in a ice bath.
Maybe the light routine I did tonight will bring back some positive pi's.

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Well the light routine didn't bring back my pi's so I'm going to take next week "off". I'm going to heat for at least 10 min every night and edge for at least 15 min. I'm also going to try out massaging to break up scar tissue to have a more unconditioned penis.

I'm going to take the extra time I'll have this week to get my workout schedule and diet straightened back out. I've gotten lazy and I've started to jiggle and thats not cool.

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Its been a few days since I've been on my break and I have already noticed big changes. My flaccid hang is back to a hang instead of just poking out, I have more random erections, easier to obtain erections, and better eq.
I believe doing a 4 week on 1 week off schedule may be the ticket for me.

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So my high eq and pi's only lasted a few days then everything went downhill fast. My eq plummeted and my flaccid was almost inside of me. I don't know what happened but I went ahead and took 2 weeks off to see if anything came back and it didn't. So tonight I'm going to resume a light routine to see what happens. If my flaccid and eq come back I'll stay on it and if not I guess more break time?

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Anyone have any ideas?

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Measured the other day and I got
El: 6
bpel: 6 3/4
eg: 4 3/4