My Log

[outlawtas Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close outlawtas]

Hey dudes. Happened to find the site by fluke and decided to run with it. Spent the first week reading am about to start PESG's 'Back to Basics' program. Actually, started today.
I think a log would help me keep track and motivated as well as good info for newbs so here goes.

Starting stats 07/12/09:
6 3/4" NBPEL
5" EG @ base

90 - Day Goal:
7" NBPEL
5 1/8" EG

Long-Term Goal:
8" NBPEL
6" EG

I never thought I was "small" but I would, like anyone else, like to be bigger. I'm going to stick to measuring every 2 weeks. I think more than that is just too much measuring! Try something, run with it for two weeks and re-evaluate afterwards. If your checking everyday, I think your head gets far too involved.

My stats:

23
5'10''
210 - 215 lbs (bodybuilder, off season now)

[outlawtas Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close outlawtas]

Okay, fixed the keyboard issue.

First workout went well. Did a full 15 min warmup with a Rice sock. Actually, the stretching felt good! Almost relieving. I used baby powder for grip which worked well (I'm uncut). I found the helicopter stretches difficult, especially at 6:00 - I just couldn't seem to get a proper stretch there.

Afterwards I moved on to Jelqing. I tried baby oil first, which didn't really cut it for me. I then just went with regular ky lube, which was fine. I'll try another oil afterwards, as KY could get pretty pricey every night lol! I'm not sure if I was at the right % for jelqing, or if I was using the right amount of pressure - but I tried to use as much as possible without being painful. 5 second jelqs are difficult for me, they were mostly about 3 seconds long.

Tried to Edge aftwerwards, but this one is going to need some work...I'm used to visual stimulation when I'm by myself. It's something I want to change anyways, I'd like to be able to edge for extended amounts of time un-assisted in order to bring up EQ along with everything else. So I'll be giving this a good shot as well. It'll take some time to get used to.

[JonPop Retired Sr. Administrator PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close JonPop]

Oh man, that's Rrrrrful. *Hee* (jP

[Kasper Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Kasper]

Hi there outlawtas. Wow, you got pretty good starting stats going there! Stay focused with your routine and you'll meet your short-term goals. BTW, bodybuilding will definitely help you gaining. Good luck!

[outlawtas Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close outlawtas]

Other insights into my training:

Kegels done on the same days as stretching/jelqing. One thing bodybuilding has taught me is that the best way to grow your muscles is to kick the sh*t outta them in a training session and from there nutrition and rest are just as important as the training itself. In bodybuilding you never train the same muscle until 72 hours of rest has occurred. Granted, this muscle is a lot smaller so the recovery time faster, thus I think a 2 day on, 1 day of program is perfect. In other words, I won't be doing any training outside of my sessions. No JAI pulls in the washroom. No kegels on my off days. Rest days are exactly for that - rest and recovery. 100%. Fortunately my nutrition/supplementation wont differ as they are essentially the same goal. Just keep eating good clean foods, lots of protein.

The only question I had was by what mechanism does PE occur? Is it stretching or hypertrophy? And what exactly is the difference? At the end of the day I believe it comes down to damaging the tissue and rebuilding it (thus my emphasis on proper rest), so really it shouldn't matter.

[NP97 Retired ModeratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close NP97]

I agree with that. I try and avoid everything on my days off. Although I do 5 days on 2 off, if I feel like I need another rest day in there, I take it. No kegels on days off for me as well. As to the mechanisms... I don't know exactly. The stretching is to create some elasticity and allow for more length gains. It's basically to breaking down tissue to allow expansion (like you said) after rest. Just because it's smooth muscle doesn't mean you treat it differently. You exercise it differently but I believe it's about what you said. Gotta break it down so it builds up stronger.

[outlawtas Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close outlawtas]

Hi there outlawtas. Wow, you got pretty good starting stats going there! Stay focused with your routine and you'll meet your short-term goals. BTW, bodybuilding will definitely help you gaining. Good luck!

Thanks Kasper.

[outlawtas Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close outlawtas]

I agree with that. I try and avoid everything on my days off. Although I do 5 days on 2 off, if I feel like I need another rest day in there, I take it. No kegels on days off for me as well. As to the mechanisms... I don't know exactly. The stretching is to create some elasticity and allow for more length gains. It's basically to breaking down tissue to allow expansion (like you said) after rest. Just because it's smooth muscle doesn't mean you treat it differently. You exercise it differently but I believe it's about what you said. Gotta break it down so it builds up stronger.

NP, how long did your first gains take you?
Just trying to see if mine are realistic, keeping in mind I'm measuring NBPEL, which is a little smaller.

[NP97 Retired ModeratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close NP97]

My gains were basically re-gains. I also measure NBPEL.
Anyway, I did PE about two years prior... had to quit due to going to school and such (started over the summer and quit when I moved to VA for school...) so the gains I had after a month ==> .25" L about .25-.5 girth (bad measurement before I started, I don't think I gained .5" in a month...)
All the gains I got so quickly were due to having them prior, but never cementing them. So those actual gains took anywhere from 1-3 months, don't know for sure.

[outlawtas Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close outlawtas]

2nd workout today.

Again, did the full 15 min warmup. I like this and will continue it. Today's session was a bit of hit and miss. My stretching was better, especially the circular stretches. I was able to grasp better than the previous day. Jelqing was a pain today, I tried again with more baby oil but the stuff just doesn't give enough viscosity for me. Actually, it was a little painful so I switched back to lube. Looks like I'll be using this from now on, it's not a totally huge investment anyways (probably 10 bucks every 2 weeks or so).

After the stretching I was definitely hanging low. Cool stuff. My flaccid measurements and appearance aren't really an issue for me, I'm really after the erect gains here. Today's workout was overall a little more intense. I'm still having a little trouble getting the right % for jelqing but time will fix that I think. Finished off with 10 minutes of "edging" - still finding it difficult without any visual stimulation (didn't realize how much I relied on porn! Not a good thing. For the record, I'm completely quitting all porn viewing lol). I did finish on both days though. I wont do anything tomorrow and just let myself build up to improve the edging, and I'll skip the next two edging sessions and continue pick it back up after the next two workouts without finishing. I think it won't be a problem because after two or three days of no release I get really horny. I'm going to keep it to one release a week, with the exception of sex.

I just have some kegels to finishing off.

I'll probably post my next few workouts, but from there I might dumb it down a bit to a couple a week plus measurement updates every 2 weeks.

[outlawtas Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close outlawtas]

It's awesome to see the logs busy here...I got bumped to the second page already!

3rd workout. After taking Wednesday completely off, I had my third workout. Again, stretching improved. Grip, feeling - pretty much everything about it was better. And again, jelqing lacked. I'm still having trouble hitting the right EQ. Maybe it's I just to need to strengthen up because I seem "dead" after stretching. Continuing with the full 15 minute rice sock warmup.

Kegels went fine as well, as of right now i'm doing 100. I think I'll bump it by 25 each week until i hit about 250 or so. I'd really like to learn to dry orgasm...crazy shit! lol

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4th Workout

Finally, an all around great workout! The stretching and jelqing booth felt bang on. The only negative thing was a little soreness while stretching - but not at the stretch point, around where I formed my OK grip. Anyone else have this problem?
This workout I held the stretches a little bit longer than previous. Still went with a full 15 warmup. My first week PE'ing will be complete Sunday, and then I'm 1 week out from my first measure. I don't have any expectations really, because I'm still learning the exercises. The first measure will be a crap shoot, any gain at all will just be considered bonus. I still find edging difficult after stretching/jelqing, but hopefully that will be fixed soon. I've refrained from any visual stimulation, but I did take care of myself on my day off. Tonight will be 2 nights without going, and I intend to take it until Monday night and attempt a successful egding session.

Tonight is another night off for rest and recovery. I'm hoping I can get my camera up next weekend to take some before pictures (two weeks in is still quite fresh).

See ya.

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Workout 5

Good workout overall again. Stretching/jelqing are great. Actually, it's beginning to feel good, like a routine at the gym. Edging was still a bit difficult post workout, but i did another session later for fun, which went well.

My workout for anyone interested:

1. 15 min rice sock warmup
2. 4 way-flaccid bends (20 seconds each)
3. 20 JAI Stretches
4. LOT Stretch (30 seconds each, 5 directions)
5. 360 Stretches (15 seconds for complete circle)
10 minutes of Jelqing, varying erection levels (a little difficult to control right now)

[outlawtas Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close outlawtas]

Just finished Workout 7.

Stretching is getting increasingly better. Really managed to dig deep into the ligs and try to pull them right out. I added a nice long stretch as far BTC as I could manually do. This really put some good strain on the ligs. Jelqing is still not what I think it should be - it's hard for me to get erect after all that stretching. . I've taken edging out for the time period after my workout for this reason. To be honest I just feel "dead" after stretching. I seem to be able to manage about 30% or so for a period of time. I've decided to back myself up until I'm a raging bull (I've been releasing everyday, with the exception of yesterday) and see how that goes.

I've also been doing a lot of reading and research and am probably going to start or incorporate some hanging into my routine. I'm going to start very light. I have some of the equipment already, a couple more pieces are required. I'll be using Captn's Wench, which seems to be the best homemade bib. I think that my ligs are very tight (my erection points really high and is hard to push down, respectively) and some good hanging sessions would help bring more out a lot. I probably wont start until next week - I'd like to get in at least my first two weeks with an all manual program.

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On a side note, 2 times I forgot to do my kegels! I think these are really important so I'll go them right now.