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  • #91
    Day 35 of modified JP90.

    Warm up 10 mins.

    5 Direction stretches with kegels followed by rotation stretch.

    Helicopter shakes after each rotation.

    60 jelqs.

    2 Uli's.

    Edged.

    Warm down 10 mins.

    So today's session went pretty good, didn't get hard as many times as last session, but still got hard a few times. The original grip seems to be working better, instead of using the two finger tight grip.

    I sort of jelq in a downward direction to get a bit of head swell and stop just before the glans with reverse ok grip. Since my glans are usually smaller than my shaft before this single jelq, it definitely helps my grip remain not too tight, but stops my hand slipping.

    Jelqing felt great as always, did kind of lose count after fifty, but it would have been pretty close to sixty, if not bang on. Got a little distracted.

    Did the 2 Uli's again for two 20 second holds, great glans expansion, I actually did these whilst edging, as I forgot to do them straight after jelqing, probably having great EQ whilst edging as well as a few kegels led to the great expansion of glans.

    Edging went well, got to PONR three times and ejaculated on the third, got a little sidetracked though, the session did go on for probably an hour to an hour and a half.

    Flaccid hang looks pretty good after today's session and feels like I've had a good workout, will update further on PI's tomorrow.

    It looks as though I have missed another day, but I haven't I just done today's session after midnight here.

    Rest day tomorrow.
    burtybasset
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    Last edited by burtybasset; 07-18-2014, 08:59 PM. Reason: Addition
    "Those who know others have knowledge,
    those who know themselves have insight.
    Those who master others have force,
    those who master themselves have strength". - Lao Tzu

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    • #92
      PI's today have been good, woke up with morning wood, flaccid hang has been good all day and been feeling pretty horny.
      "Those who know others have knowledge,
      those who know themselves have insight.
      Those who master others have force,
      those who master themselves have strength". - Lao Tzu

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      • #93
        Day 37 of modified JP90.

        Warm up 10 mins.

        5 Direction stretches with kegels followed by rotation stretch.

        Helicopter shakes after each rotation.

        60 jelqs.

        2 Uli's

        Warm down 10 mins.

        Today's session wasn't as good as the one previous, got hard a lot and stayed semi hard for ages, was having grip problems too.

        Jelqs felt good and Uls were okay, well the first was good the second I started getting soft half way through, feeling a bit tired, had to do a lot of driving today, around about 5 or 6 hours of it. Will probably be better next session.

        Rest day tomorrow.
        "Those who know others have knowledge,
        those who know themselves have insight.
        Those who master others have force,
        those who master themselves have strength". - Lao Tzu

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        • #94
          must be nice to have your very own log.

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          • #95
            Day 39 of modified JP90.

            Warm up 10 mins.

            5 Direction stretches with kegels followed by rotation stretch.

            Helicopter shakes after each rotation.

            25 jelqs.

            Edged.

            Today's (yesterday's) session went okay, struggled with grip, starting to get a little pissed off with grip problems, might start doing jelqs before stretches see how it goes.

            Did less jelqs too, routine feels a little stagnant at present, I have tried going back to the exact same number of reps and force I was using at the end of JP the last time when PI's were unmistakeably positive, whereas they now seem more subtle in terms of flaccid girth and length. EQ is good as ever, but flaccid hang after workouts seems the same and no increases in size.

            Might try increasing the number of workout days to 2 on 1 off again and see what PI's say.
            "Those who know others have knowledge,
            those who know themselves have insight.
            Those who master others have force,
            those who master themselves have strength". - Lao Tzu

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            • #96
              Day 41 of modified JP90.

              Warm up 10 mins.

              5 Direction stretch with kegels followed by rotation stretch.

              Helicopter shakes after each rotation.

              25 jelqs.

              Warm down 15 mins.

              Today's session went okay, but didn't go brilliant, did a few of those bundled stretches, before the 5 directions, after reading a thread about them contributing to length gains and since I'm yet to see any I thought I would give them a whirl.

              The bundled stretches seemed to be a good addition and seemed to be working fine. However I think I let my rice sock go a little cool before warming, should of really reheated and warmed a little more thoroughly. The combination of additional exercise and not thoroughly warming left me with a negative PI - turtling for about ten minutes or so, did an additional 5 minutes of warm down to help.

              Think I may yet incorporate them into my routine as I believe they may also help with any scar tissue I may have, but will ensure full warm up next time, freaked me out a little, thought I had a little discolouration too, will see how I am in the morning.

              Rest day tomorrow.
              "Those who know others have knowledge,
              those who know themselves have insight.
              Those who master others have force,
              those who master themselves have strength". - Lao Tzu

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              • #97
                If you are trying new things, I suggest only changing/adding one thing at a time, so that you can attribute the change in PIs to a single cause not keep guessing multiple possibilities.

                Bundled stretches can be a bit much, only do a half turn at first, and don't stretch too hard, just light enough to feel tension.

                Good luck!
                A real man never hurts a woman. The woman came out of a man’s rib, not from his feet to be walked on, and not from his head to be superior, but from his side to be equal. Under the arm to be protected, and next to the heart to be loved. - Mrs. workin_4_it

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                • #98
                  Day 43 of modified JP90.

                  Warm up 10 mins.

                  75 Jelqs.

                  5 Direction stretches with kegels followed by rotation stretch.

                  Helicopter shakes after each rotation.

                  warm down 10 mins.

                  Missed yesterdays session will only count one rest day.

                  So today's session went very well, decided to do jelqs first after reading in someone else's log that they were working well this way round and that they did! Was intending to go with 25/50, but they felt good so did 75, 25 forward ok grip and 50 UJ reverse grip.

                  Stretches felt good also, grip felt better, it might have to do with jelqing first and then having to wash myself before stretching, it just felt easier. Used minimal force today with stretches, something about doing them this way, I think it exerts less force on the tunica, but I feel more relaxed and like I get more of an internal stretch because of it.

                  Did kegels with these a lot slower than usual, I know they are supposed to be quick kegels but I find that doing them quick kind of makes me rush through the stretches and I don't feel it should be a rush.

                  Originally posted by MrB8 View Post
                  If you are trying new things, I suggest only changing/adding one thing at a time, so that you can attribute the change in PIs to a single cause not keep guessing multiple possibilities.

                  Bundled stretches can be a bit much, only do a half turn at first, and don't stretch too hard, just light enough to feel tension.

                  Good luck!
                  What I am doing is changing one thing at a time, to try and get the same positive PI's I had before I finished JP first time round and I'm not guessing anything. The bundled stretch I did was just more of a bundle, there wasn't any stretching involved and I wasn't especially bothered by the turtle, it was the first time it happened in months, okay I don't like it especially.

                  I was more worried that I'd dislodged some scar tissue and it was floating around my body to my heart/brain/lungs. I know it was probably paranoia, but you hear about people who get blood clots that travel to their lungs or brain or whatever and then it's game over.

                  Any idea what happens to the broken down scar tissue MrB8? Is it reabsorbed by the body somehow?
                  "Those who know others have knowledge,
                  those who know themselves have insight.
                  Those who master others have force,
                  those who master themselves have strength". - Lao Tzu

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                  • #99
                    Good, I was pointing to the additional exercises and change of workout schedule, just in case you may have overlooked it.

                    Regarding scar tissue, I think so, yes, when they are loosened up scar tissues are reabsorbed by the body, there is a good discussion on the subject below.

                    https://www.pegym.com/forums/pe-theo...h-massage.html
                    A real man never hurts a woman. The woman came out of a man’s rib, not from his feet to be walked on, and not from his head to be superior, but from his side to be equal. Under the arm to be protected, and next to the heart to be loved. - Mrs. workin_4_it

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                    • Originally posted by MrB8 View Post
                      Good, I was pointing to the additional exercises and change of workout schedule, just in case you may have overlooked it.

                      Regarding scar tissue, I think so, yes, when they are loosened up scar tissues are reabsorbed by the body, there is a good discussion on the subject below.

                      https://www.pegym.com/forums/pe-theo...h-massage.html
                      Okay, thanks for the concern MrB8, thanks for the link too!

                      I feel my PI have been mostly neutral for a while, so something needed altering, I wasn't attempting to go crazy.

                      I still feel I have some scar tissue, from years ago, it doesn't especially feel like hard plaque though.

                      I read about Dr Howard somewhere in the articles and it suggested he overcame peyronies via fulcrum hanging. I don't want to attempt any hanging just yet, but I have started to consider extending, as this is supposed to help, however Dr Howard in his article suggested the traction from this wasn't enough for him, but that's not to say it won't be for everyone. However I will stick with what I'm doing till I have completed it and see how things are then.

                      Edit, another useful link:

                      https://www.pegym.com/forums/pe-theo...html#post93228
                      burtybasset
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                      Last edited by burtybasset; 07-27-2014, 08:01 PM. Reason: Addition
                      "Those who know others have knowledge,
                      those who know themselves have insight.
                      Those who master others have force,
                      those who master themselves have strength". - Lao Tzu

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                      • Today's session can hardly be called modified JP90.

                        Warm up 10 minutes.

                        Did 50 jelqs.

                        Edged.

                        A few Jai Stretches.

                        Warm down 10 minutes.

                        Did 50 jelqs and felt good, penis looked extra veiny, thicker and longer, so I thought I'm not going to ruin it with a load of stretches.

                        After last session my body seemed to respond well after doing jelqs before stretches immediately after routine, but the next day size seemed a little smaller and erection angle seemed a little lower, even though I was feeling plenty horny, had no trouble achieving erection and penis still felt pretty solid when erect.

                        I'm starting to think that the stretches might be excessive with JP, so I thought I would use this session as an experiment. What I can say for sure is after doing the 50 jelqs (mainly UJ) I was rock hard when I got to edging, CS felt awesome and erection angle came back.

                        Edging felt great as it has been a little while since I had done it, the combination with jelqing after was awesome (EQ/angle felt great), if my Pi's are good tomorrow I will consider revising all the stretching I'm doing with JP. Did do a few Jai stretches (3 to be exact) for 2 second holds, with minimal force just to do a couple of stretches, but they hardly count as I was barely stretching.

                        Will see how PI's are tomorrow (rest day).
                        "Those who know others have knowledge,
                        those who know themselves have insight.
                        Those who master others have force,
                        those who master themselves have strength". - Lao Tzu

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                        • Today should be modified JP90 day 47, However I'm taking today as a rest day, as I did some stretches yesterday.

                          Yesterday I decided to do the four direction stretches from JP90 with reasonably light force, I missed the downward one because I wanted to do some light stretching and I thought the four directions would be enough.

                          I have decided not to completely abandon JP90, but it will still be modified to suit my responses. I decided that I'm going to do stretching on one day and the next will do some jelqs (sticking with 50) and possibly a few Uli's.

                          My reasoning for this is I have decided that maybe exercising the smooth muscles and the tunica on the same day may be a little much to ask my body to recover from, even though my version of JP90 has been cut right down, PI's have been inconsistent, so I think I'm going to stick with this and see how my body responds.

                          After yesterdays stretches, I woke up with morning wood, feeling horny and flaccid hang has been very good all day today. This suggests that exercising one type of body tissue at a time might be the right direction for me.

                          I know body-building isn't the same as PE, but they do share similarities and you wouldn't try and work every muscle you have in one session if you are trying to grow, you would target different muscle groups on different days.

                          So I have decided my routine will now be 2 days on, one day off, but with smooth muscle exercises on the first day and tunica on the second, with edging on one of the workout days and kegels whenever I think about them.
                          "Those who know others have knowledge,
                          those who know themselves have insight.
                          Those who master others have force,
                          those who master themselves have strength". - Lao Tzu

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                          • Today's routine Day 49

                            Warm up 10 minutes.

                            50 jelqs.

                            2 Uli's for 20 second holds.

                            Warm down 10 minutes.

                            Today's routine went well, managed to get to 30 jelqs (UJ) and got hard so did the two Uli's at this point for twenty seconds, with a few kegels. Finished the remaining 20 jelqs after this.

                            CS feels great after UJ's and glans looking better too.

                            Flaccid after today's mild session were very good, thicker longer flaccid! Seemed to take me a little longer to get hard immediately after workout (probably due to only just working smooth muscle), as I was going to edge.

                            Did get hard after a minute or so and super big and hard it felt too! It hasn't felt like that for a while (slightly larger than normal when erect), but after a long day at work decided against edging, will do it tomorrow, after stretches.

                            PI's are looking good so far!
                            burtybasset
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                            Last edited by burtybasset; 08-02-2014, 04:44 PM. Reason: addition
                            "Those who know others have knowledge,
                            those who know themselves have insight.
                            Those who master others have force,
                            those who master themselves have strength". - Lao Tzu

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                            • Day 50

                              Warm up 10 minutes.

                              4 Direction stretches followed by rotation stretch.

                              Helicopter shakes after each rotation.

                              Warm down 10 minutes.

                              Stretches went well, didn't get hard except for once, didn't have time to edge will try and do that later this evening.

                              Body seems to be responding well to separating tunica and smooth muscle exercises.
                              burtybasset
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                              Last edited by burtybasset; 08-02-2014, 04:45 PM. Reason: addition
                              "Those who know others have knowledge,
                              those who know themselves have insight.
                              Those who master others have force,
                              those who master themselves have strength". - Lao Tzu

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                              • Having today off training, ate something dodgy last night and Mrs Basset and I have been sick all day. Burty Jr escaped our fate as he ate something different to us. Feeling dehydrated and dizzy.

                                Will see how I am tomorrow.
                                "Those who know others have knowledge,
                                those who know themselves have insight.
                                Those who master others have force,
                                those who master themselves have strength". - Lao Tzu

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