From Zero to Hero, Take 2

[John_Clark Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close John_Clark]

Hi All!

I had a brief foray into PE a few years ago and even had a log on this forum, but I didn't stick with it. Well, I'm back. I've never been happy with my size, both FL and EL, and some recent events, and one this week in particular, have sealed my resolve to change this. I'll quickly tell my motivation here. You can jump down to the log below this wall of text, if you prefer.

Story
So, I've been dating this amazing girl for several months and she has even moved 800 miles to be with me. This is a gorgeous girl, a model who has been on billboards for national brands, and she's always had her pick of men. Everything is great except...in the bedroom. We rarely have sex (we were long distance for a while, so its hard to put a number on how often), and I couldn't figure out what it was. She had claimed she just didn't like sex that much. And I did know that after sex sometimes she would be very sore. I attributed this to my stamina, but turns out she has other beliefs. It all came out while drinking with her and her 2 gay roomates. The discussion turned to penis sizes and sex, and she said quite a bit without directing anything at me "directly". Turns out she's been with some very big guys ("10 inches") and she loved it! And she loves sex in general, she loves penises (she described qualities of penises she likes, including a big head, veinyness, and a bulge in the middle, in addition to thickness and length), how she loves giving head (and yet she almost never has given me head!), and claimed that when a guy is too small it forces them to go balls deep, which involves too much pounding of the pelvises and thus makes her sore. Well, this all made me pretty depressed. Would we never have a good sex life? Would she always be disappointed with my size? In addition to reading up on sex positions, telling her I want to have better communication in the bedroom to know what she likes, etc., I want to increase my length so she has something to get excited about. Even if it isn't huge. And increase my confidence in the process.

Routine
2 on, 1 off
8+ min Warm-Up with towel
JP90 Stretches + Kegels (left, L&R circle, heli, right, L&R circle, heli, out, L&R circle, up, L&R circle, heli)
10 minutes wet jelqs, 4 sec tempo
Edging

Measurements
5/11/2014
BPEL 5 3/16"
NBPEL 4 7/8"
MEG 5 1/2" (I was surprised by this as, looking around, this seems to be relatively girthy)
FL 2 13/16"

Goals
BPEL 6 3/16" (+1")
MEG 6" (+ 1/2")
FL 3 3/4"

[John_Clark Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close John_Clark]

8 Min Warm-Up
JP 90 Stretches + 100 Kegels (skipped some of the helicopters)
12 min wet jelq (went longer than my routine time because I spent a bit of the time waiting for my erection to get back under 70%)
Short cooldown
12 minutes edging
Short cooldown

Notes:
Noticed a dark spot on underside of shaft after workout
Questions:
How important is the cooldown? Should I do it before or after edging?
Is the routine I'm doing good for length or should it involve more stretching? I hold each of my static stretches long enough to do 25 kegels.

[PurpleOnes Senior Member Member of the Month June 2014PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close PurpleOnes]

Well good luck to you in achieving a bigger penis.

You will most likely not be able to achieve at 10 inches as far as your penis size but you will be able to increase it.

Do not take this as an insult but your girl seems to have too high demands and hopefully your not fully doing it for her and actually thinking about yourself too.

Just don't start chasing her penis size desires since girls do not know how big 10 inches is.

Physiological indicators are going to guide you safely in your PE journey and help to prevent you from overtraining:Physiological Indicators Are Your Best Friend

Make sure that you warm down also after your PE workouts.

Stay consistent and dedicated with your PE routine.

[John_Clark Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close John_Clark]

Hi PurpleOnes, thanks for your response! I am not doing this just for my girl, as I have wanted a larger penis for a very long time, feeling embarrassed about being below average. But her comments definitely put me over the edge - so I'm going to do this! I should make clear she doesn't expect a 10" penis, but I truly believe adding an inch will be both a pleasure enhancer and a significant visual change. So that's my goal.

[PurpleOnes Senior Member Member of the Month June 2014PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close PurpleOnes]

I just replied to your question.

Hopefully I answered all of your questions

Do not be afraid to ask question related to PE.

Are you planning on telling her about your PE workouts or going to keep it as a secret?

[John_Clark Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close John_Clark]

Hey PurpleOnes! Thanks again. I am not planning to tell her in the near future, but we are planning to move in together in the next few months, so I will probably tell her soon after that. It would be nice to have some progress to report when I do tell her.

I did my workout today with a minor modification: I skipped the kegels during the stretching to prevent any increase in my erection. I decided to keep doing the stretches before the jelqs, for now.

Workout 2
Hot shower + 6 min towel warmup
JP 90 stretches (I find I get a bit of an erection, maybe 30%, when doing the big circles, so that I have to stop between sides), each held for count of 25
10 min 3-4 sec wet jelqs
12 minutes edging but decided to finish this time
brief warm water cooldown

notes:
today it was fairly easy to stay at ~55-65% for my jelqs. I only had to pause twice, briefly.
a few minutes into edging I noticed that my EQ was quite good and a bit better than usual, maybe an 8+

[PurpleOnes Senior Member Member of the Month June 2014PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close PurpleOnes]

Hey PurpleOnes! Thanks again. I am not planning to tell her in the near future, but we are planning to move in together in the next few months, so I will probably tell her soon after that. It would be nice to have some progress to report when I do tell her.

I did my workout today with a minor modification: I skipped the kegels during the stretching to prevent any increase in my erection. I decided to keep doing the stretches before the jelqs, for now.

Workout 2
Hot shower + 6 min towel warmup
JP 90 stretches (I find I get a bit of an erection, maybe 30%, when doing the big circles, so that I have to stop between sides), each held for count of 25
10 min 3-4 sec wet jelqs
12 minutes edging but decided to finish this time
brief warm water cooldown

notes:
today it was fairly easy to stay at ~55-65% for my jelqs. I only had to pause twice, briefly.
a few minutes into edging I noticed that my EQ was quite good and a bit better than usual, maybe an 8+

Be ready for that she might not understand the whole Penis enlargement.

Also I think that she will think that increasing penis size is really easy and she might tell what size she wants.

I told my mom about PE because I had no privacy and it affected my workouts. It is a different kind of situation but I had to do my workouts at 1 am and wake up at 07.25 each morning so I was missing a lot of sleep because the of this privacy issue.

My mom took it really well and now she just makes jokes like: Come on not again your doing your ''workout '' soon your penis will be size of an elephants penis

I play along and I'm glad she took it so positively. I ofcource assured her that I know what I'm doing and that I wouldn't do it if I would not have seen results already.

Currently I'm having full privacy to do my workouts since I just close my door and do them in my room.

You will never know how person will react after you tell them but assure your girlfriend that you know what your doing and it is safe.

[John_Clark Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close John_Clark]

PurpleOnes, it's really great that your mom has reacted so positively. I like her joke about the elephant penis, and with your measurements you're on your way! I would just like to be bigger. Even if that's only average! I don't know how my girlfriend would react when I tell her, but my guess is the reaction will be much better if I have some progress to report when I tell her.

My flaccid hang is very good this evening. I should really measure because I would love to see an improvement in flaccid length, too. Also, is 2 on 1 off a good way to start as a beginner or is a different frequency better? I'm kind of bummed that my 2 on 1 off schedule means I won't work out tomorrow - I'm really excited to be doing this and have kind of enjoyed the workouts. It's nice working toward a goal.

Edit: Measured FL: 2 13/16 "

[PurpleOnes Senior Member Member of the Month June 2014PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close PurpleOnes]

I personally started with 5 day on and 2 days off when I started PE with JP 90 program.

During that period I had those privacy issues and wasn't really paying close attention to my PI's.

Currently been doing PE with 1 day on 1 day off schedule and it is perfect like that since it allows me to track my PI's really well.

Just experiment with the schedule you have but most importantly make PE work for your day to day schedule

Hopefully your girlfriend will be happy and it will only improve your confidence in the bedroom.

[mannakonda Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close mannakonda]

Hi! First of all, you must be doing something magic to get with that kind of girls

I remember when I had sex the first times, the condom used to fall off very easily.. I thought it was kinda normal, but now the other day I read that the circumference of the condom is 4.2 inches (10,6 cm). Which mean I was really thin (probably thinner than in my starting stats in the signature), still my girlfriend enjoyed having sex with me. Your starting with 5.5 inches - which is my goal and many others goal!

And about the 10 inch guys(Sounds like she´s testing you?), I think she exaggerate a lot or don´t have a clue! There is not a handful of guys that size even on this site! A site where many guys have been working out for years.

She has moved 800 miles to be with you, sounds like she wants to be in a longterm relationship with you - just think about how much bigger you can get the first 6-12-18 months?

Best of luck!

[Bnip Retired Moderator Member of the Month July 2013PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Bnip]

Great log! Good luck on your journey!!!

[John_Clark Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close John_Clark]

Wow, your guy's messages are really kind and are motivating me to make this positive change in my life!

Thank you, bnip!

PurpleOnes, sounds like there is some flexibility here with regards to the workout schedule. I will stick with the 2 on 1 off for now, since by analogy to other workouts, 4 days of exercise a week is a good amount. I don't want to overdo it. I will pay special attention to the PIs.

Mannakonda, thank you for the kind words! I wish I could say I feel better about that starting girth, but at the end of the day if she's not satisfied it does me no good! So I'll have to work on all the other things (length is not the top of that list). Also, I don't think my EQ has been very good the last few times we have had sex because we have both been at least slightly drunk. So I'm going to try to be sober the next time we have sex so I can be both mentally and physically in top form. Also, you are right - although she is a very free spirit - her moving 800 miles is something I should take as a pretty good sign of her interest in me. We spend all of our free time together, everyday, and each day is only getting better.

Workout 3/Day 4 of JP90
I was a little rushed to finish my workout this morning, so I changed/shortened a few things.

Hot shower + 5 minute warm-up
left, right, out, up stretches (did not do all the circle stretches)
10 min jelqing. Had to pause a maybe 5-6 times for ~15 seconds
2 min cooldown

notes:
During the stretches I used my second hand to hold the skin at the base taut, because I did some reading about how to avoid getting a "turkey neck". I already have moderate webbing and would *love* to get rid of it. I may add a move to my routine, specifically targeting that issue.

During the jelqing I felt like I might have been wearing away the skin just below the glans. I think I was not using enough lube.

PIs
Woke up with morning wood (EQ6?) for the first time since before I started JP90.

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Workout 4/Day 5 of JP90
Got the full workout in today, although I've largely abandoned the circle stretches and helicopters. I just don't really care for them. I still do a few circles, though.

Hot shower + towel warmup (forgot to time)
stretch left, right, out, up, 25 count each
11 min jelqing
masturbate
quick warmdown

Notes:
my girlfriend sent me a clothed but sexy selfie while I was doing stretches, which made me need some extra pauses during my workout today! Ah well, there are worse problems
During jelqing I used my two fingers from my free hand to pull the skin at the base down toward my balls. Hopefully this prevents/reverses turkey neck. I continued using two hands for my stretches.

PIs:
no morning wood
maybe a few pin sized red spots

Question:
I read in a description of jelqing that I should leave one hand at the base of the glans until after I start the other hand up from the base. Is this how I should do it? Currently, the amount of time per rep that my hands are on my penis simultaneously is basically zero. Given my smaller size and desire to use my second hand to keep the skin pulled down, it seems better to just use one hand at a time so the other hand can be at the base.

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Workout 5/Day 6 of JP90
Won't be able to workout tomorrow so I decided to workout a third day in a row.

hot shower + warmup
Stretches left, right, out, up 25 sec each, 2 sets (had been doing one set), helicopters in between
11 min wet jelqs
masturbate

Notes:
Preliminary bpel measurement is +1/16" but I'll do a full set of measurements in a week or two. Such a small difference could easily be a day-to-day fluctuation. At least it's the right direction.

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Workout 6/Day 8 of JP90
Dealing with something that has me depressed this weekend. Didn't particularly feel like doing the workout and especially didn't feel like edging. But I'm here:

hot shower + towel warmup
Left, Right, Up, Out stretches 25sec each, x2 with helicopters in between
11 min wet jelqing
~10 min edging
brief warmdown

notes: EQ during edging was very high despite not feeling very sexual today. Strange. Also, along with that EQ came a higher erection angle than I think I normally have...interesting.