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[closed224 Senior Member Member of the Month Dec 2014, Feb 2017 Find all posts View Profile Close closed224]

Shit man if it is hanging down by your ankle to hurt your PE when spraining your ankle.... Well I just think that might be too long. Silly I know, hope you feel better.

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Shit man if it is hanging down by your ankle to hurt your PE when spraining your ankle.... Well I just think that might be too long. Silly I know, hope you feel better.

Hahaha I love you, bro, that's hilarious Alas, no, I was just out exercising and tripped up somewhere and sprained it. Not as exciting as that

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Measuring day. PE has been a bit patchy these past 3 weeks due to interruptions or some days I don't feel like doing it. I don't think I'll do stretches from now on; I just don't enjoy doing them and I'll do girth-only exercises maybe 3 times a week, but more intense sessions. It's less than I planned to do but it's what I'm happy doing.

BPFSL: 17.4cm (6.85")
BPEL: 17.2cm (6.77")
MSEG: 12.2cm (4.80")
NBPEL: 14.7cm (5.79")

No change really and that's all right. Like I mentioned, been a bit flaky with the PE but I just want to do it for maintaining function and maybe some girth. Measuring girth is really difficult for me, my dick starts to deflate as soon as I stop stroking so it's hard to pin down the exact fullest circumference. The sprained ankle has been a real nuisance and kept me from any outdoor exercise for two weeks. It's always better to ensure it's healed before starting again though.

[popol5169 Senior Member Member of the Month Nov 2014 Find all posts View Profile Close popol5169]

Hopefully you'll gain next time. Maybe try to edge without releasing every day for a while? Will keep doing jelqing? If you do then perform efficient, quality jelqing, not just a random milking motion!
What about squeezes?

A session every other day could be enough and help you stay consistent.

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Hopefully you'll gain next time. Maybe try to edge without releasing every day for a while? Will keep doing jelqing? If you do then perform efficient, quality jelqing, not just a random milking motion!
What about squeezes?

A session every other day could be enough and help you stay consistent.

I could try erect squeezes and every time I jelq, it's always with good technique. One good thing is I've managed to stay away from porn for a week and therefore no urge to release. I get a bit reluctant edging at the moment because I try to aim for a certain time and it's just frustrating when I have to stop and then lose hardness then have to work it back up again. Plus I invariably release without trying to just by going a bit too fast which makes me lose heart somewhat. I'll keep trying though. I do Ulis and I like them along with my jelqs. The most important thing is at least I didn't lose any size.

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How long for each rep? I found that making each jelq lasts 7-10 seconds worked best, with a higher erection level and a rather tight grip (up to you) . HAve a look at the link in my sig, when your EL decreases it could be useful.
Throw in some Uli's . A nice way to increase intensity is to hold each Uli's for longer (as opposed to increasing reps) , so that in the end you could do only 3 or 4 , but each would last 2-5 minutes .
Mix the squeezes in between jelq sets (sounds like you already do this) . Have you looked at the thread called plateau edging?

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How long for each rep? I found that making each jelq lasts 7-10 seconds worked best, with a higher erection level and a rather tight grip (up to you) . HAve a look at the link in my sig, when your EL decreases it could be useful.
Throw in some Uli's . A nice way to increase intensity is to hold each Uli's for longer (as opposed to increasing reps) , so that in the end you could do only 3 or 4 , but each would last 2-5 minutes .
Mix the squeezes in between jelq sets (sounds like you already do this) . Have you looked at the thread called plateau edging?

Thanks popol Well I haven't worked out the time for each rep but say it's 100 jelqs in 20 minutes on average. So it's 12 secs per jelq or 6 secs per stroke so seems ok. Recently I have been getting a bit quicker but I'll aim to keep it to 20-25 minutes. I do one 30sec Uli after each set of 50 jelqs. I plan to add another 50 jelqs followed by a 30sec Uli to push it to a 30 minute routine from now on. I will try to maintain higher erection level and tighter grip, thanks

I have tried plateau edging. I did it for a couple weeks a little while back but it's very difficult to maintain control. I try to think about my breathing but it distracts from controlling the sensation and I worry about releasing. I have now gone back to stop-start but stop when I experience IKs rather than at PONR. I also do only RKs (no kegels) in order to get pelvic floor balance and I think I am getting better but it's a very fluid experience. Some days I'm hornier than others, some days I'm tired and that all plays in to how well I edge but I keep trying nevertheless. I really need to breathe more when I edge and I'll work on this.

[popol5169 Senior Member Member of the Month Nov 2014 Find all posts View Profile Close popol5169]

Actually you may need to release more often. If so, then that's even better, more fun for you.
Basically I try to be 100 % focused in each jelq, and make them last as long as possible, feel what is going on in the pen while performing them, adding a second hand from time to time .
As for tighter grip and EL, this up to you to find out what works best, for me it seems it does.
Definitely try deep breathing while gently edging, be aware of your whole body (tensions in legs, back , shoulder etc..) , have fun, it's not an annoying duty you have to succeed in, there's no pressure.

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Actually you may need to release more often. If so, then that's even better, more fun for you.
Basically I try to be 100 % focused in each jelq, and make them last as long as possible, feel what is going on in the pen while performing them, adding a second hand from time to time .
As for tighter grip and EL, this up to you to find out what works best, for me it seems it does.
Definitely try deep breathing while gently edging, be aware of your whole body (tensions in legs, back , shoulder etc..) , have fun, it's not an annoying duty you have to succeed in, there's no pressure.

I appreciate the advice and you are saying sensible things that I should remember. The breathing-while-edging thing I've learned that I've been going about it all wrong. I looked once more at the plateau edging thread and realised that it's the initial stroking and bodily sensations (warmth radiating through the body, sweating in areas, increased pace of breathing,etc) that was the plateau stage. I mistakenly took it to be the tension just before PONR when it's the build up to even that moment Learning not to pressure myself is a long process but one that seems to become easier over time

EDIT: I will try your amazing...erm...'squelqs' is it? Or just 'popol specials' as I'll refer to them as

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Ok this isn't anything to report on, just a summary of how I want to proceed. Going to change the routine from 5 on, 2 off to every other weekday. This will make it 3 days a week and I think it's more sustainable given I need time to not think about my dick more often I will increase the intensity and only do jelqs supplemented with Ulis and later erect squeezes. So from tomorrow it will look like this:

50 jelqs + 30sec Uli
50 jelqs + 30sec Uli
50 jelqs + 30sec Uli

I have taken some inspiration from Looking4more's progress log and, although I won't be pumping nor doing any stretching (for the time being, I might reconsider that at some point), I enjoy the focus on manual work and that there is still a lot of variety and advanced techniques to keep me motivated. I just enjoy the girth stuff more than the stretches, it's just simply that.

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Yeah, first day of the week went really well. I didn't find that the extra set of jelqs + uli tired me out at all and felt very good. Today was probably my best edging session in a long time too. I think that I have turned a corner on edging and I think over time I will slowly re-introduce regular kegels and continue with my reverse kegel routine too.

I had to lie down after spending half an hour jelqing in order to relax my body and focus on my breathing. In the past, laying down meant I couldn't relax my pelvic floor as well as when standing but today was great, nice and relaxed. I got my first IKs around 10 minutes where I took a short break, and then again at around 20 minutes which was great progress for me. After that I felt really good and determined to continue this routine!

I should say that I did masturbate to porn last night sadly but I managed a whole week without watching any which feels ok. I'll try to do a month now since it's best to set a manageable target for me to reach.

[closed224 Senior Member Member of the Month Dec 2014, Feb 2017 Find all posts View Profile Close closed224]

Stay strong brother, you are continuing to learn and improve. Congratulations.

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Another good session today. My jelqs took 40 mins overall which is my target time for 150 jelqs plus the 3 Ulis.

Edging was really good today. I found that the IKs came a bit earlier today so I decided to switch between edging and ballooning and it was very nice to do. I laid on my bed which helps to relax and focus on the sensations and ballooning builds up the feeling much slower than regular edging plus involves less physical effort. I will definitely be trying that tomorrow. Without even trying too much managed to do 25 mins worth of edging/ballooning.

And thanks Wishful! I definitely feel I am making the most of things now

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Managed to do a final session of the week on Thursday. It had to be two sessions on consecutive days this week as Friday was busy and it's just as well as I've been struck down hard by a cold so I hope I'll be better to continue tomorrow. I'll just reschedule things just in case I'm not anyway.

The last session was good but I'm glad to have had a few days off to give myself a rest. I released after 20mins of edging/ballooning which wasn't planned but I don't mind. All in all everything seems to be going fine for now.

[popol5169 Senior Member Member of the Month Nov 2014 Find all posts View Profile Close popol5169]

Cool you sound more positive about what you do, how is the jelqing going?