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I do give her G-spot orgasms with my fingers and do oral every once in while but her clitoris is too sensative for a lot of oral. She says she prefers the orgasms she gets while having sex so I dont see the need to increase the use of fingers or oral beyond what im doing now for foreplay. We actually have great sex, im just striving to make it better and I think more girth and some more length my do this. I am trying to make it bigger but my progress is at a snails pace and it is frustrating as hell.Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Ben Franklin, 1775.
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i would instantly ask her "are you a size queen? do you care that much about the size? she's freak out and say "No", i'd tell her then, how she should tell me how happy she is with me in bed, how good i am, and what i do that she likes and what would she like me to do, coz i rather care to be the best than the biggestOriginally posted by darinsixpack View PostMany of us here are far more knowledgable about penis sizes then probably the common world is. We study it and live it. With that said, if you met a new girl who had a past of 80-100 X sex partners....you had a penis of 6.5" by 5.5 girth and she tried to tell you, that you are the second biggest cock she's had, would you believe her? Keep in mind the men she's dated were of all races, height, body type, etc.
& not get into size discussion at all... but no, i wouldn't believe her... but i'd still care about performance...
Initial BPEL: 4.5"; FL: 1.2
Initial EG: 4.4"
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BPEL 4.9"; FL: 2.75"
EG: 4.8"
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Goal: 6.5" length
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I had a f... friend ones that said i was her biggest , she flat out no bs said that she had been with 36 differnt men, there where no love and at the time i diddent give a damm and she knew it.
She had zero reason to lie
I was 7.8x5.5 at the time.
On the other hand i have a femal friend that has sleept with 4 ddifferent people,she told me one day that the last guy she dated had a baby penis , but after the broke up she meet a guy that had a dick so big that it would never fit eny woman, and the never had sex.
For some bizar reason I wanted to be that guy ha ha ha
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yeah, same bizzare reason, we all do !! loooool, but i guess you're pretty good to go man, at the time 7.8
i'm gonna stop at 6.5 - 7... i'm gonna miss being able to put it all inside their mouth... & i'm gonna miss anal too... but Way 2go man... i say u should believe her in your caseInitial BPEL: 4.5"; FL: 1.2
Initial EG: 4.4"
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Current:
BPEL 4.9"; FL: 2.75"
EG: 4.8"
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Goal: 6.5" length
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Ok, so yeah she probably lied. I recently told about my PE practice and she thought it was wierd and tried to BS me into telling me I was just right and if I got any bigger it would hurt and she wouldn't like it......my response? Well, told her I'm not stupid, I know what you feel like when I'm inside you and had a few vaginas in my time and told her I can tell she could easily take much more. Told her I was doing it for her.
I never believed her trying to tell me I am the second biggest of some 80+ partners. I would guess based on what I know and the "type" of men she dated in years gone past, I'm probably middle of the pack. Can't blame her for trying to make me feel better, but I hate being lied to. Makes me question everything else, you know?
With that said, I do think this is a woman who sets an example that size does not matter all the much. She easily orgasms and know how to get me, to get her there, over and over. I don't think she really cares that much about the size thing. But to think I'm the second biggest, is bull!3/3/11: 6" BPEL
3/3/11 5.5" MEG
3/3/11 6.25" BEG
4/12/11 6.35" BPEL
4/12/11 5.6" MEG
4/12/11 6.35" BEG
5/18/11 6.45" BPEL
5/18/11 5.6" MEG
5/18/11 6.5" BEG
8/26/11 6.7" Bpel
8/26/11 5.35 Meg
8/26/11 6.25 beg
11/17/11 6.75 BPEL
02/25/12 6.95 BPEL BPFSL 7.15
05/01/2012 7.05 BPEL BPFSL 7.25
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you sound like you're in a pretty good relationship, i say she's a keeper
& throw away all the crap about size from your mind... as long as she doesn't care, she orgasms regularily... i'm telling you they care more about the best who knows his way around their body rather than who won the ruler contest !!!! keep up the +ve attitude & enjoy life...
Initial BPEL: 4.5"; FL: 1.2
Initial EG: 4.4"
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Current:
BPEL 4.9"; FL: 2.75"
EG: 4.8"
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Goal: 6.5" length
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Boo fuckin' hoo. The only person lying to you about your size is yourself. Eventually you'll grow up and realize how foolish your acting, so don't worry about it too much.Originally posted by darinsixpack View PostOk, so yeah she probably lied. I recently told about my PE practice and she thought it was wierd and tried to BS me into telling me I was just right and if I got any bigger it would hurt and she wouldn't like it......my response? Well, told her I'm not stupid, I know what you feel like when I'm inside you and had a few vaginas in my time and told her I can tell she could easily take much more. Told her I was doing it for her.
I never believed her trying to tell me I am the second biggest of some 80+ partners. I would guess based on what I know and the "type" of men she dated in years gone past, I'm probably middle of the pack. Can't blame her for trying to make me feel better, but I hate being lied to. Makes me question everything else, you know?
With that said, I do think this is a woman who sets an example that size does not matter all the much. She easily orgasms and know how to get me, to get her there, over and over. I don't think she really cares that much about the size thing. But to think I'm the second biggest, is bull!
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If I remember your posting histroy correctly, your size and how you match up to the rest of a population seems to be the source of a lot of paranoia and doubt for you. Regardless of where your size puts you, it's where you're at, so do PE if you like and try to get bigger, but in the meantime don't let your obsession ruin your relationships.
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A bit harsh? I think he's just reflecting on how honest his girl is with him and I really don't think he's lying about his dick size to himself.Originally posted by DemOne View PostBoo fuckin' hoo. The only person lying to you about your size is yourself. Eventually you'll grow up and realize how foolish your acting, so don't worry about it too much.
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If you can't accept the idea that men in general come with various insecurities about their cocks, then shut this site down. Tis what it's all about my friend. Varying degrees, but there nonetheless. Why do you think this site and hundreds other like it exist? Cause everyone knows they have the biggest most perfect cock? I think not!Originally posted by DemOne View PostBoo fuckin' hoo. The only person lying to you about your size is yourself. Eventually you'll grow up and realize how foolish your acting, so don't worry about it too much.
It amazes me how much criticism guys get on here for simply asking the women how their cock works for them and if they find bigger better. I think given the nature of the promiscious worls we live in today, it's a natural question to ask.
I'm simple! If a woman thinks me cock is too small, she can leave and I'll find a smaller pussy. Finding that out had always been a quest of mine.......so be it!3/3/11: 6" BPEL
3/3/11 5.5" MEG
3/3/11 6.25" BEG
4/12/11 6.35" BPEL
4/12/11 5.6" MEG
4/12/11 6.35" BEG
5/18/11 6.45" BPEL
5/18/11 5.6" MEG
5/18/11 6.5" BEG
8/26/11 6.7" Bpel
8/26/11 5.35 Meg
8/26/11 6.25 beg
11/17/11 6.75 BPEL
02/25/12 6.95 BPEL BPFSL 7.15
05/01/2012 7.05 BPEL BPFSL 7.25
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Daringsixpacks, man if a girl told your your cock was too small i sure don't wanna meet her LMAO !!! come to Egypt !!! you'll find plenty to find it awesome...
it's true what you said, let me back you up here, NO MATTER HOW good we are in bed to ourselves... of course it's good to know we are... for girls if it's just about sex, knowing your way around the bedroom is the #1 & size comes 2nd or 3rd... if you're in a loving relationship... it really comes last... or just disappears as you get to love every detail about the person...
but for us, men, yes we do come with insecurities... i had a friend of mine, who had very little experience, and was getting married and was asking me if his 9" was too small... i dunno why but i don't talk to him anymore !! looool for no reason he should know as long as i'm concerned... it doesn't have anything to do with how loving worthy or good in bed we are... i guess each of us is here on the site, and doing PE so he can feel better himself...
But again, we're here on the forum to support each other... and really, i admit, i found amazing help, from people i don't even know but who cared about my problem... and i find myself unable to do otherwise... and there's something i gotta say about DemOne's reply... that it's true that once we get over our insecurities we realize how trapped in them we were... just thinking that it's only a matter of time before we all really become perfect in ourselve's eyes, which is basically why we're all here... if anyone is doing PE only for his GF & not to have a better health better looking penis... i would tell him, don't change for anyone man... change only for yourself... to be the man you wanna be.....
I wish someone had told me what DemOne's said, last time my ex-GF tried to offend me
it would have helped me a lot in my own mind's psychological war trying to not let myself get offended...
Initial BPEL: 4.5"; FL: 1.2
Initial EG: 4.4"
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Current:
BPEL 4.9"; FL: 2.75"
EG: 4.8"
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Goal: 6.5" length
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You realize that the 85th percentile means 1 out of every 6, right? One out of every six guys has a penis larger than 6.6" on average. That is the other thing people generally overlook concerning statistics: "On average." For example, there are a large number of people who think that 1 out of 6 is a guarantee when it is absolutely not a guarantee. It is an "on average" occurrence; it is very possible to even randomly choose 12 guys and all of them could have a penis that is not 6.6" or bigger. That is variability and a reason why we need a large number of participants in studies. When you flip a coin six times it is very possible that it lands on heads 6 out of 6 times. It happens. It is certainly not a guarantee that you will get an exact 50-50 split between heads and tails.Originally posted by ColtAR-15 View PostI also have my doubts about the stats. I have had some here state that if your 7" then you are longer than 85% of the population but somehow that just doesnt seem to translate to the real world. If only 15% of the population was longer than 7" I would think it would be something a girl would comment about, but I never got any comments. Statistically rare but in actuality fairly common. Ps.- The idea of 5.5" EG being somewhat rare, I believe is total BS. It seems to be just as common as 5" EG or less, just look at PEGym members starting stats.
You see even a 50-50 chance falls into the normal bell curve. Let's say we flip a coin 12 times. Statistically speaking, we will get an exact 50-50 split only 25% of the time. Think of this in terms of penis size. Let's say we randomly test the next 12 guys who walk through a major grocery store and we measure their penis size. Assuming everything is equal (psychological state, temperature, all are able to get an EQ of 10, etc) we are actually not very likely to get an exact 50-50 split of guys being shorter/longer than 5.8" BPEL--average penis size; in fact, we will not get an exact 50-50 split 75% of the time.
The stats don't lie, there are numerous sources out there that indicate this is reality. I think some people hear 85th percentile and they think, "Wow, that is great. There are not too many people out there like me."
Let's take a look at height in the USA. 1 out of 6 men are taller than 6'1" and people generally think they are pretty tall, right? They are quite numerous too, right? It would be rare for someone to say, "Wow, you are extremely tall!" Now let's look at me, I am 6'4" or 6'5" (been measured at both) which is two standard deviations above the average (I am taller than 98-99% of the population). When I walk downtown or when I am in a classroom it is very rare that another person is taller than me. Heck, only 1 or 2 men out of every 100 are taller on average. There are a lot of occasions that people think I am very tall and I hear it a lot. It makes sense, because instead of 1 out of 6 we are now talking 1 out of 100. It makes sense.
The stats don't lie, if you are 6.6" or longer you are longer than 1 out of 6 men on average. If you are 6'1" or taller you are taller than 1 out of 6 men on average.Last edited by ByggD; 08-28-2011, 07:29 PM.
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I think the only way you could find 9" small is if you thought it was a tiny third leg. But I suppose if no one teaches you these things.Originally posted by kimo696 View Postbut for us, men, yes we do come with insecurities... i had a friend of mine, who had very little experience, and was getting married and was asking me if his 9" was too small...
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Thanks. I understand what your saying. In the real world the big ones really aren't that uncommon at least to the extent I used to believe. I guess I interpret " uncommon" a bit different than than most. Even if someone was bigger than 1 in 20 I just dont consider that as very uncommon either.Originally posted by ByggD View PostYou realize that the 85th percentile means 1 out of every 6, right? One out of every six guys has a penis larger than 6.6" on average. That is the other thing people generally overlook concerning statistics: "On average." For example, there are a large number of people who think that 1 out of 6 is a guarantee when it is absolutely not a guarantee. It is an "on average" occurrence; it is very possible to even randomly choose 12 guys and all of them could have a penis that is not 6.6" or bigger. That is variability and a reason why we need a large number of participants in studies. When you flip a coin six times it is very possible that it lands on heads 6 out of 6 times. It happens. It is certainly not a guarantee that you will get an exact 50-50 split between heads and tails.
You see even a 50-50 chance falls into the normal bell curve. Let's say we flip a coin 12 times. Statistically speaking, we will get an exact 50-50 split only 25% of the time. Think of this in terms of penis size. Let's say we randomly test the next 12 guys who walk through a major grocery store and we measure their penis size. Assuming everything is equal (psychological state, temperature, all are able to get an EQ of 10, etc) we are actually not very likely to get an exact 50-50 split of guys being shorter/longer than 5.8" BPEL--average penis size; in fact, we will not get an exact 50-50 split 75% of the time.
The stats don't lie, there are numerous sources out there that indicate this is reality. I think some people hear 85th percentile and they think, "Wow, that is great. There are not too many people out there like me."
Let's take a look at height in the USA. 1 out of 6 men are taller than 6'1" and people generally think they are pretty tall, right? They are quite numerous too, right? It would be rare for someone to say, "Wow, you are extremely tall!" Now let's look at me, I am 6'4" or 6'5" (been measured at both) which is two standard deviations above the average (I am taller than 98-99% of the population). When I walk downtown or when I am in a classroom it is very rare that another person is taller than me. Heck, only 1 or 2 men out of every 100 are taller on average. There are a lot of occasions that people think I am very tall and I hear it a lot. It makes sense, because instead of 1 out of 6 we are now talking 1 out of 100. It makes sense.
The stats don't lie, if you are 6.6" or longer you are longer than 1 out of 6 men on average. If you are 6'1" or taller you are taller than 1 out of 6 men on average.Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Ben Franklin, 1775.
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Earlier you said that you don't believe that 85% was the actual metric because you thought that was quite rare and that a woman would have mentioned something because of this rarity. When we use the 1 out of 6 metric you then seem to suggest that it isn't as impressive. It is the same number of people regardless of which way you look at it, but you seem to be thinking of it less positively now because of the 1/6 rather than 85%. If the average on an exam was 50% and I got an 85% I would be damn happy. I remember that happened in Organic chemistry. I got a 78% on the first exam and I was shocked, I thought I did awful. Then we got to class and he told us the average was 57% and i was stoked. After scaling I got an A- when I originally thought I got a C+.Originally posted by ColtAR-15 View PostThanks. I understand what your saying. In the real world the big ones really aren't that uncommon at least to the extent I used to believe. I guess I interpret " uncommon" a bit different than than most. Even if someone was bigger than 1 in 20 I just dont consider that as very uncommon either.
Also, 1/20 is the 95th percentile. In penis size terms that is an 8" cock. In terms of male height that 6'3" and 5'10" for female height (you think a 5'10" female isn't very tall?). In terms of intelligence that is an IQ of 130. In terms of average income in the USA that is $100,000. The 95th percentile is very good. Only 5 people out of 100 are better at any metric.
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