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[NCGUY1972 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close NCGUY1972]

the more a woman see the more she is likely to experience a large one and a small one.

[ThinJohnny Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ThinJohnny]

I have no idea how big my friends that
I've met later in life are, with the exception
of a couple of guys who always talk
about how big they are.

But I think it's pretty common, and perfectly
normal to know the approximate flaccid sizes
of the guys you grow up with.

Between showering after sports
and pissing in the woods, you end
up seeing pretty much everybody's
dick. I did, anyway.

[Gspot Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Gspot]

The monster dildos that one can purchase these days do not help anything either. "I need a man as big as my 15" didlo to satisfy me" she said. Better go find a horse then lady.

[Ivor Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Ivor]

The monster dildos that one can purchase these days do not help anything either. "I need a man as big as my 15" didlo to satisfy me" she said. Better go find a horse then lady.

As people have pointed out in this thread and many others, not many women actually want a 15" dildo. By far the best-selling sizes of dildo are about the same size as an average penis.

The stupidly huge ones are bought either for (ahem) theatrical purpose or as a joke for someone's hen night.

[Ivor Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Ivor]

"I need a man as big as my 15" didlo to satisfy me" she said.

And I can guarantee that no woman has ever said this. Or has ever said it seriously, at least.

[Gspot Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Gspot]

And I can guarantee that no woman has ever said this. Or has ever said it seriously, at least.

Never say never, unless you are omniscient, and clearly you are not. I have actually heard it before myself and I have known a few women with some giant dildos. Sure this is rare but there many are women like this. They enjoyed streatching themselves out (maybe they like the feeling of child birth). If you want some entertainment, try CL's causual encounters. "At least 11" cock" is a common request. Of course, this is largely from people who do not regularly use a ruler.

[Cya at 8 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Cya at 8]

lol

[Ivor Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Ivor]

"At least 11" cock" is a common request.

Well that's ridiculous, cocks that big barely even exist. It's like saying you won't date anyone who isn't at least 6'8". And even women who like dildos that big, or say they do, are probably saying it mostly for effect. Put it this way, I should think women who have that kind of extreme dildo fetish are going to be rare enough that most men will never encounter one.

[TTBB Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close TTBB]

Well that's ridiculous, cocks that big barely even exist. It's like saying you won't date anyone who isn't at least 6'8". And even women who like dildos that big, or say they do, are probably saying it mostly for effect. Put it this way, I should think women who have that kind of extreme dildo fetish are going to be rare enough that most men will never encounter one.

I agree.

[CaptainJohnson Retired ModeratorSenior MemberPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close CaptainJohnson]

Never say never, unless you are omniscient, and clearly you are not. I have actually heard it before myself and I have known a few women with some giant dildos. Sure this is rare but there many are women like this. They enjoyed streatching themselves out (maybe they like the feeling of child birth). If you want some entertainment, try CL's causual encounters. "At least 11" cock" is a common request. Of course, this is largely from people who do not regularly use a ruler.

Also, how does this size queen definition develop? It seems to apply to women who like to feel a penis deeper than most. This suggests length differences, but as discussed, girth does more for girls... so would a girl who wants a 6" girth in her be considered a size queen? When most of the women who post "at least 11" cock" don't know the actual measurements, what they are basically saying is they want something visually pleasing that can fill them up... but which direction do they want to be filled? Both? Sounds like they know what they want, but can't express themselves. Well why does anyone care what they prefer so much as to be offended by it?

"Size queen" is a stupid term. There are preferences, and a lot of that has to do with a woman's opinions, but can also be related to their physiological situation. Is her vagina sensitive to what is inside her (can she feel things easily on the inside)? How strong are her pelvic muscles? Was her vagina built wider/deeper than others? Maybe seeing/feeling something big just turns her on more.

As discussed many times, there are girls who are in pain when dealing with a guy around 5.5 inches. While lengthwise, most girls can handle a 7 inch dong, even that can take some warming up to, and some girls may have initial trouble with it.

My point? ITS PREFERENCE! A girl with a tight vagina doesn't guarentee good sex, you know. To paraphrase Hank Moody (David Duchovney, Californication), she could be "cadaverous" in the sack. What is most enjoyable in bed? The personality. I love a girl who kisses hard, bites, scratches a bit, grips me hard, makes noise, and knows how to completely let her inhibitions fly out the window for the sake of a good time. Girls expect the same idea: penis size is a preference, and to some, it may be important, but it doesn't mean crap about your sexual potential/prowess.

After all, some guys openly admit being "ass-men" or a fan of legs, tits, faces, smaller girls, voluptuous girls, ethnicities, etc... so why judge women for their tastes?

[Ivor Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Ivor]

Anyway, the existence of ridiculously large dildos is not a major factor in men's body image and anxieties about penis size, I think. You'd have to know basically nothing about women to think that just because such things exist, they represent the ideal penis size from a female POV and that any man who doesn't measure up is inadequate.

[CaptainJohnson Retired ModeratorSenior MemberPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close CaptainJohnson]

Anyway, the existence of ridiculously large dildos is not a major factor in men's body image and anxieties about penis size, I think. You'd have to know basically nothing about women to think that just because such things exist, they represent the ideal penis size from a female POV and that any man who doesn't measure up is inadequate.

Problem is, a lot of men on this site have this problem. They have an issue with their size and view it a sexually beneficial at all times. Even the forums have lent themselves to this form of thinking, since all the members continue to perpetrate this thought process. The success forum is riddled with the sexual significance of a larger penis. A good few members do PE simply for health purposes (staying hard longer, being harder), or just to grow for their own personal satisfaction. Some members are legitimately smaller than average, and want to hit/surpass that average. I think its incredibly important to sit down and really honestly consider why you are doing PE, and what you plan to get out of it.

Another thing is, I DO NOT buy into the whole evolutionary cocksize preference theory. Sure, I do believe cocksize has developed evolutionarily, but as a preference? No. Look at breasts for hells sake! If it was an evolutionary addiction, all men would always want big breasts. The bigger the breasts, the better. Breasts are an immediate and obvious sign of fertility, and clearly that means we should all demand huge boobies!

Or...

Maybe it isn't that clear. Sure, most guys like larger-than-average breasts, but there IS an upper limit of size that most guys appreciate. Also, a man can still easily appreciate smaller breasts... or more shapely breasts. Sure, most guys are in agreement, they aren't fans of flat chests, but there is something about a girl with tinier tits that is also appealing... also this sense of beauty is not apparent throughout history. Signs of fertility have changed. Once upon a time, heavier weight was preferable since large fat stores meant longer survival. It has been argued that today, from a socio-cultural point of view, the skinny look has developed due to a consumer society... and it got pushed until it became a health issue. Because of that, as well as a failing economy, a bit of "cushon for the pushin" isn't so bad... and we have found what we consider from a scientific point of view as an ideal healthy weight (which can vary from individual to individual). Science has taken over to decide what we find attractive... so if I can impregnate a woman test-tube style, my penis suddenly serves less of a purpose evolutionarily. If the argument is physiological only, and we are saying that a penis can hit certain spots better than others when it is bigger, I would argue that penis size is negligible due to the far greater importance of other factos such as angles... hell, even angles is unimportant when compared to a woman's individual physiological situation! A woman may have a sensitive vagina, a wider one, a deeper one, weaker/stronger pelvic muscles, etc. as I mentioned in my last post here! Even more important, is the psychology of it all! The mind can completely shut down or instigate arousal!

To all those who believe that size is important for your sexual existence, please learn your penis has no control. You do. If you want a bigger penis, at least figure out why, and stop blaming it on women.

[NCGUY1972 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close NCGUY1972]

I love a girl who kisses hard, bites, scratches a bit, grips me hard, makes noise, and knows how to completely let her inhibitions fly out the window for the sake of a good time.

You just described my wife! lol

[Ivor Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Ivor]

All good points there, Cap J, but this bit:

"Problem is, a lot of men on this site have this problem. They have an issue with their size and view it a sexually beneficial at all times. Even the forums have lent themselves to this form of thinking, since all the members continue to perpetrate this thought process. The success forum is riddled with the sexual significance of a larger penis."

makes me say: sure, there are posts about "the sexual significance of a larger penis", but they're from men, right? If a guy is convinced that having a bigger cock will make him a better lover, and he achieves that and is pleased with it, the boosted confidence he gets as a result could well make him a better lover. But do we have loads of posts by women saying "My boyfriend/husband has a bigger dick now and is consequently much better in bed than he used to be (because of his dick size alone)?".

Two things that are important to remember are 1) that big survey (I'll see if I can find a link some time) that showed that most straight women - like 85% or so - considered their current or most recent partner's dick to be either "very satisfactory or satisfactory" in size, and 2) the fact that by far the most popular size of dildos are about the same size as the average erect dick. There might be a few women who genuinely want to ream themselves silly with a cucumber-sized dong but they are very much in the minority.

[Gspot Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Gspot]

lol

Thank you for settling the matter Baghdad Bob. Size and US tanks rolling into Baghdad do not matter at all. You sir are an inspiration!