Am I really that small?

[downthere Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close downthere]

Small25, you should really listen to the long-time members here. I can imagine it hurt you to hear what you did, but you can fix it if you get busy doing the exercises. Also, I'd love to know more about these 11 women And, BTW, you've got me beat by a lot in the numbers game. (Lays)

Small25,

I'm not discounting your post and I find it intriguing, actually. Seriously...I'd love to know more about these 11 women you've been with. Personality, age, looks, body build, etc. Honestly, not poking fun at all.

I'm trying to figure out stuff too.

[small25 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close small25]

@Zman,

Perhaps you missed my post 2 posts ago. I mentioned why my penis is important. To women, things such as Oral Sex will be as important, but in my post (2 posts ago) I mentioned about how I don't perform Oral Sex. For that reason, my penis is really, really important.

@downthere,

Most of these women had a similar body, because I really, really have a preference for one body type when it comes to females (so I try to find women with this body type). I honestly do not care about breast and butt size at all. I just look for 2 things mainly, and 1 additional thing- 1 (main): Slim body, 2 (main): Pretty face, and 3 (additional): Tall-ish height (5'7" or so). The height is more of a bonus than anything else. I only really care about a slim body figure and a pretty face. I don't even look at breast and butt size. Heck, there's this female I know (haven't been with her yet), and she's gotta be one of the best looking females I've seen in real life, and she has A cups (from what I can tell), and a pretty flat butt. But she matches my criteria- slim and pretty face (she's also decent in height). So it's perfect for me!

[Park Lib Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Park Lib]

And this sample of 11 women knows what the average is?

Mate, we don't even know exactly how much we measure from day to day let alone a woman who's not looking to measure your willy.

[Hanma Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Hanma]

Again, why does it matter what they think of your penis?
You got laid, rejoice in that.

[turtler Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close turtler]

@Turtler,

I know studies show a NBPEL between 5-6 (not 6 and above), but those are studies, and as much as I'd like to believe them, one part of me tells me not to, because of what I've heard from actual females. It seems like many females say 6 inches is the average.

Sure, one part wants you not to - it's the part of your brain that likes to worry and feed on your growing insecurity. Listening too much to this part of yourself can lead to quite a few non-trivial problems, but this is a battle you will ultimately have to fight for yourself...

You didn't tell me where you have it from that most women prefer 6" and above, but then again that was intented as a question for you to ponder... I'm sad to say it, but you have all the signs of someone looking for defeat.

You're already ignoring all the information in this thread offering the opinion that size really isn't all that big a deal to a lot of women. Rather, you hang on to all the negative information, meaning you've developed a selective perception where you seek to affirm your negative thoughts about yourself and dismiss the things that might give you less worry.

Lots of people come in here with these symptoms, man. Lots. Some break out of the vicious cycle of their poisoned thinking, and the rest suffers. A lot. Some see the light by themselves, while others may need professional counsel. A few hours with a good therapist could turn out to be the best investment you've ever made, but, again, this is up to you. It's your life, man, make of it what you will.

[small25 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close small25]

I honestly do to an extent understand how size isn't everything, and how the penis is only ONE part of sex. However, I also explained above why my penis matters more to me than the average person. If you look a few posts back, I talked about how Oral Sex is a big thing for most women, perhaps even more then actual sex (penis). I explained how I do not perform Oral Sex, and I explained why. For that reason, my penis size really does matter a lot more to the women, I believe, because she won't be getting Oral Sex. I will have to make up for that one way or another, and my fingers obviously won't be as good as my tongue, so that's why my penis matters a lot.

[turtler Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close turtler]

If you look a few posts back, I talked about how Oral Sex is a big thing for most women, perhaps even more then actual sex (penis). I explained how I do not perform Oral Sex, and I explained why.

I'm sorry, but after seeing many stories like yours, what I saw was just another "Oh, such and such size might work for *other people*, but *not* me, ever, because I also have this and that"... This is a normal response from someone protecting their fears. I know because I've been there myself, and I've seen it in countless others.

Don't believe me? Here's what you wrote in your first post (emphasis mine):

I've been on other forums, and people always try to make me feel better by saying I am average overall, but ...

This is you, man. So often, people think their problems are unique in nature and therefore trump all the solutions that have worked for others. And that's how mole hills become the Himalayas.

You think I am wrong in this? You say you understand "to an extent" - isn't that a way of saying that you understand it on a rational level, but that your feelings of uncertainty gets the better of you? If so, wouldn't you say that is a real problem in this case?

[ThinJohnny Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ThinJohnny]

small25, you should watch that Howard Stern Small Penis Contest Video. That will put things in perspective for you.

Your dick is just slightly thinner than average, and it's longer than average. There are guys with very small penises out there. Some are in that video. Count your blessings man, seriously. What you have is easy to deal with. As everyone has been saying, dick size is not the be all, end all.

At the same time, I understand that it's important to guys, and I'm sure I'd have a hard time handling it if I had a very small one. Check out the way some of the guys in that video handle themselves. Those guys are real men, with big balls, if you ask me.

One other piece of advice. You have to get over that oral thing. That's probably way more likely to earn you bad reviews from women than the fact that your dick is slightly less than average in girth.

For me, it's a legitimate reason to dump someone. Unless I were madly in love with a woman, no blowjobs = no future. Actually, it might be even more of a concern if I loved her. There's no way I would want to be married to a woman who didn't love giving oral sex.

[BigO AdministratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close BigO]

Buck up and eat the calm young man.

Show me a guy that does not eat pussy and I will show you a lady I an steal.....even if he's big.

Your size is average. In fact your length is just above average and your girth is on the smaller side of average but still in the average range.

Your an average guy size wise but you won't kiss the kitty.

[ThinJohnny Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ThinJohnny]

Your an average guy size wise but you won't kiss the kitty.

Well said BigO:-)

[computerguy Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close computerguy]

Going off the thread I'm just noticing a few things.

He isn't looking to be told he's fine. He's looking for evidence to prove he's not. He won't accept encouragement and has a defeatist attitude that is more fitting of someone suffering depression. Words are wasted on him. Your words are falling on deaf ears.

His problem isn't with his penis size. He's using that as justification for coming up "short" in other ways. His issue is something else and since he doesn't seem willing to explain the other issues and an unwillingness to see or realize that getting a woman off with his dick has nothing to do with size but all about being a better lover and its one of the least reliable ways to get most women off consistently... It makes me wonder what it is.

Doesn't like giving or receiving oral... Upbringing, traumatic experience, religion, finds it unclean(germophobia?)

Maybe he's a hardcore radical vegan who doesn't let flesh touch his lips and gets put off by women orally stroking essentially a huge meatstick.

Without the poster saying what he wants to fix. And be willing to change his attitude... This is a dead thread and a waste of mental energy.

Some people want to be helped. Other love to wallow in misery and enjoy spreading it around.

Self pity is no path to self improvement.

Just my 2 cents

[turtler Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close turtler]

@computerguy: He's in defensive mode. There's a slight hope he might reread the thread some day when he's feeling better, and maybe take some of the advice to heart.

[Reallyshortblackguy Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Reallyshortblackguy]

Buck up and eat the calm young man.

Show me a guy that does not eat pussy and I will show you a lady I an steal.....even if he's big.

Your size is average. In fact your length is just above average and your girth is on the smaller side of average but still in the average range.

Your an average guy size wise but you won't kiss the kitty.

I don't -_- (No offense)

[small25 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close small25]

@Computerguy and BigO,

The real reason why I don't receive or perform Oral Sex is due to religion. As stupid as it may sound, but in my religion Oral Sex is forbidden. The only reason I did not mention this reason earlier is because whenever I do I always get in a religion debate, where people try to convince me to leave my religion. However, I believe in my religion, and do not want to leave. So for that reason Oral Sex is not an option for me, and that's why I'm so obsessed over my penis, because it's pretty much all I have (as Oral Sex is out of the question).

[Jaw Breaker Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Jaw Breaker]

What religion is that?