Am I really that small?

[Phoenix7672 Senior Member Member of the Month Oct 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Phoenix7672]

Although I typically go for girls in the 4'11-5'4 and 90-110 lbs range (and statiscally speaking, typically Asian), I think I could make an exception for Kate. lol

[small25 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close small25]

@Phoenix,

Wow really? Your size is big to me at 6.5 inches NBPEL/7.45 inches BPEL and 5.2 inches girth, and I've heard that Asian women tend to have smaller vaginas. Plus, you go for ones who are very small (in terms of height and weight). That would make me believe they have a even smaller vagina. Of course, these are all assumptions, and vaginas probably correlate to none of this, but even then I would assume in that range (short height, low weight, Asian), they must have small vaginas. It must be hard for them to take your size, I would then assume. Again, all are assumptions.

[Closed035 Member Find all posts View Profile Close Closed035]

The only reason I asked all 11 of them is because the first one called me small. Out of curiosity I asked the first one, and she said kind of small/below average. That made me want to ask more and more, and it built up from there. If the first had said I was average, then I would probably not ask any others. Since she called me small, that made me more curious, and so I asked the others. I want to accept that I am average, but since the majority of them called me below average, I now have a hard time believing I am even average.

I think it's important to remember that the average on paper doesn't apply to the average most women see. Many men that are average, like yourself, or less than average purposely avoid sex b/c they're afraid their ego won't be able to handle a women calling them small. Therefore, the average dick a women sees probably leans more towards above average in size since men who are well endowed (i.e. more confidence) are more likely to ask out women and men who are small (or think they are small) are more likely to just avoid the situation entirely.

So, the fact that the majority of women in your case, referred to you as kind of small/below average kind of makes sense considering on paper your average, but in due to the discrepancy in sizes women actually encounter, you're relatively small or below average.

Again, not saying you're small. In a room of 100 guys randomly picked, you'd be bigger than 50 or average (50% bigger than anyone in the room). However, when you take away the portion of guys who avoid sex almost entirely, let's say 25 (all smaller than you) of those 100 (just a guesstimate, but seems rational with today's penis size complexes), you'll find yourself only in the 33% (bigger than 25 of the remaining 75 guys in the room) of what women actually encounter. Thus, making it reasonable women see you as below average/kind of small.

[small25 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close small25]

@Matador,

Wow, I never even thought of that. Honestly, that makes 100% sense. I guess men who are average or below (or see themselves as small) don't get around as much, and so that's why women don't see real average penises as much. I think I'll just go for a virgin, lol, and that way I probably won't be considered small at all.

[Closed035 Member Find all posts View Profile Close Closed035]

Dude, don't let your size hold you back honestly, especially b/c you're only slightly below average. I mean you're not small enough that it will bother women or even catch their attention as long as you know what you're doing and don't make a big deal about it. Honestly, if you make yourself more well rounded in other areas (personality, profession, hobbies), women will be way more turned on by those aspects about you than they would if you're penis size was a couple inches bigger.

Trust me. I used to be friends with this guy who constantly volunteered to work at the firestation, and I asked him why (he was kind of a douche, partially b/c his penis size bothered him so it didn't make sense at first). He then told me how women would jump his bones when he'd walk into a bar w/the rest of the firemen all suited up covered in ash resin. And that in bed, he could do no wrong in women's eyes b/c they were so rapped up in what he stood for and the status that he carried (did help that he had a good body too).

Point of the story is, 50 years from now, if you limited yourself all b/c of you're penis size, you're honestly going to hate yourself. Remember, we all only have one life. Do you really want to let something as small of an issue as penis size (especially considering yours if perfectly normal) ruin what could be some of the best moments of your life?

[Phoenix7672 Senior Member Member of the Month Oct 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Phoenix7672]

@Phoenix,

Wow really? Your size is big to me at 6.5 inches NBPEL/7.45 inches BPEL and 5.2 inches girth, and I've heard that Asian women tend to have smaller vaginas. Plus, you go for ones who are very small (in terms of height and weight). That would make me believe they have a even smaller vagina. Of course, these are all assumptions, and vaginas probably correlate to none of this, but even then I would assume in that range (short height, low weight, Asian), they must have small vaginas. It must be hard for them to take your size, I would then assume. Again, all are assumptions.

I don't think there is really any correlation between size and race/stature, although I think there might be a minor one. That said, I did already have one turn me down, but she was abnormally small (said over 5" hurts her). That said, I don't have much experience with them, since most of the ones I have gone out with wanted to wait longer than I was comfortable with, or were even waiting for marriage.

Also although I have my preferences, they aren't exactly requirements. Actually two girls I'm sort of interested in right now are both Caucasian...one being around 5'6 and maybe 110-120 and the other around 5'2 and about 95. There is one more who is Chinese and about 4'11 and 95, but we're just friends, although if she wasn't married I think maybe there could have been something more.

As for PE, I'm doing it more for me, but I am stopping around 5.75-6" girth if I can ever hit that and sort of evaluating from there. As for length, I'm ok having excess, even if that means 5-6 for her and 2-3 inches extra for me lol. Also I know I'm not small (although I still feel average), but if I am actually already big, then why not see if I can become huge, at least imo.

[small25 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close small25]

@Matador,

You're actually right. I should stop caring that I have a pencil dick. At least it's average to slightly above average length. It'd be worse if it was thin and short, but luckily it's only thin (and not short). I should learn to make the best out of my ~4.4 inch girth. In fact, there is one member on this forum (can't remember his name now), and he also used to have a 4.4 inch girth (pre-PE). He said that he was able to satisfy his wife with it, so I guess it isn't as bad as I think it is.

Thanks for the advice mate! Very appreciated.

[small25 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close small25]

Guys I just had a question-

Recently, I realized that the fabric tape measure I use (to measure my girth) might actually be wrong, because yesterday I measured it using a ruler, and it was 0.0625" off. What I mean is, when I use the fabric tape measure to measure my girth, I get about 4.375". When I measured this same distance using a ruler, it came out to be 4.4375". So, 4.375" on the fabric tape measure is equal to 4.4375" on the ruler. I also used 2 other rulers, and got the same difference- 0.0625" (between 4.375" and 4.4375"). As I checked using 3 different rulers, I think the fabric tape measure is wrong.

What do you guys say?

[BigO AdministratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close BigO]

Het small25, are you talking about going from the metal tip at the end of the tape? If so, it could be that it was placed a bit off when it was set.

Check from the 1 inch mark, and see if it's accurate. If it is, just use that mark, and minus 1 inch from your measurement.

[closed224 Senior Member Member of the Month Dec 2014, Feb 2017 Find all posts View Profile Close closed224]

Fabric can stretch so the ruler is right. Congratulations, you just got some gains.

[small25 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close small25]

Even without the metal part it's off. Anyways, damn I feel happy now. I always thought I was below 4.4 inches in girth, but now I realized I've been measuring wrong all the time (with the wrong measuring tool). The correct way, I'm almost 4.5 inches in girth. Feels awesome!

[closed224 Senior Member Member of the Month Dec 2014, Feb 2017 Find all posts View Profile Close closed224]

That's the spirit. I told you your penis is awesome. Enjoy your journey.

[creativedude89 Member Find all posts View Profile Close creativedude89]

Who fucking cares, it's about how you use it bro. Plus once they see it its already too late and your gettin buns baby!

[closed224 Senior Member Member of the Month Dec 2014, Feb 2017 Find all posts View Profile Close closed224]

Well I for one care. Not about size but about people.

[CanIgrowPlease Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close CanIgrowPlease]

Stick in there Small25 I'm trying to change my attitude and outlook on sex and my size. Let's take a day at a time my dude. You're not alone