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  • #91
    Originally posted by jacobi916 View Post
    according to an article floating around on here masturbation slows down growth , so does edging slow down growth too?
    Im 8" and grew almost three I edge all the time. I think that is a myth.


    For I will restore health unto thee and I will heal thee of thine wounds, saith the Lord Jeremiah 30:17

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    • #92
      Originally posted by jacobi916 View Post
      according to an article floating around on here masturbation slows down growth , so does edging slow down growth too?
      This is still unclear, but I guess in our forum, masturbation don't hinder gain..^^ just masturbate for a longer period to be more beneficial to you,

      Other advice ejaculate after 2 hours before or after PE...

      The issue really is not masturbation it self but ejaculation.. still in my own opinion we can't defeat statistic, poll or survey as they have evidence to it.
      Penis Enlargement Gym - Ejaculation Analysis


      According to the survey conducted those who ejaculated after PE once a week gained the most, while masturbation have no co relation to gains.


      Hope this help to adapt whats applicable to you.
      March 4, 2009 BPEL5.25xEG4.5
      Short Tem Goal 6.5 x 5.5
      Long Term Goal 7x6 NBPL:D
      No specific target, no length and girth just a 100% EQ and a enjoyable session^^ but gains will be welcome :P

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      • #93
        Thanks for the info about ejaculating before and after a PE workout. I typically would ejaculate about 1 hour after PEing. I will cut back on this and see if the gains come faster.
        Total from start to current: (Start 26/02/09)
        BPEL-5.8" >> 6.5" (+0.7")
        EG-4.6" >> 4.75" (+0.15")

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        • #94
          I feel as if edging increases growth. When I edge that's when I'm able to reach a full erection. I want to know what can I do to get these EQ all the time?
          Starting stats:

          Fl- Turtle
          Nbpel- 5"
          Bpel- 6"
          Eg- 5"

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          • #95
            Originally posted by joeygrower View Post
            I feel as if edging increases growth. When I edge that's when I'm able to reach a full erection. I want to know what can I do to get these EQ all the time?
            Kegel mate, also EQ is highly influenced by your psyche. So think positive. A little Erection Tea never hurt neither. Man I know you they mean about ripping a hole in your pants.
            "Why pay for what you can get free"
            How PE Works
            (8/18/08) BPFL 4.12 FG 4.37 BPEL 6.75 EG 5.37
            (3/08/09) BPFL 4.16 FG 4.25 BPEL 6.61 EG 5.25 After 7 months of no PE
            (4/13/09) BPFL 4.18 FG 4.50 BPEL 6.75 EG 5.5

            Lesson: PE WORKS
            "We learn from failure, not from success!" - Bram Stoker
            PE90X Routine

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            • #96
              The reason why I edge/balloon. After stretching your muscles and then working them, think of edging or ballooning as a burn out. You're working that already tired buddy all the way to see how long it can still go for. I, personally, advocate edging/ballooning immediately after my last exercise.

              Why? Because I hope that all of you do not exercise your penis at a 100% erection, I do mine at 40-60%. So then I allow the blood to fully enter my penis and then when it's fully erect I edge/balloon to spread that blood evenly throughout the penis. During the edging and ballooning what I do is hold allow the erection to subside and get erect again, to allow fresh blood to enter my penis (believed to be healthier for it).

              Edging/Ballooning vs Masturbation
              The goal isn't to jerk off to porn or see how fast you can stroke your penis with your hand. If that's what you're doing you are truly just masturbating. What I do is--well I don't lie on my back, as KP suggests, because my arms can't reach that far comfortably--sit up straight and have a very light grip on my shaft from the bottom. I slowly stroke it up and then down. Using slow motions and turning my hands every once in a while to spread the blood around. Once I am ready to go I stand up over a trash can and keep stroking. They still are slow. As I start to reach to point of no return (PONR)--not porn--I start to rub the glans and as I do this I add a light kegel. Once I'm about to blow I increase the hold and it feels like something is exploding out of my glans, but it isn't. Sometimes I ejaculate like once, but that's not it all and so I start right back up.

              Edging: you blow your load afterwards
              Ballooning: you do not.
              "Why pay for what you can get free"
              How PE Works
              (8/18/08) BPFL 4.12 FG 4.37 BPEL 6.75 EG 5.37
              (3/08/09) BPFL 4.16 FG 4.25 BPEL 6.61 EG 5.25 After 7 months of no PE
              (4/13/09) BPFL 4.18 FG 4.50 BPEL 6.75 EG 5.5

              Lesson: PE WORKS
              "We learn from failure, not from success!" - Bram Stoker
              PE90X Routine

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              • #97
                Hey guys,

                I noticed some of your are talking about edging in a way to increase your stamina during sex. Exitement and arousal happens between two ears rather than two thighs so I think getting your mind in the right mindset is definately the key. I highly recommend you take a look at a cool hypnotherapy program by Wendi Friesen designed primarily for premature ejaculation. As well as eliminated worry and anxiety which could cause fear she also sets a trigger in your mind you can use to switch between arousal levels at will. It costs about $80 but you can get it free as a torrent.

                Wendi Friesen - Stay Hard Premature Ejaculation 1 - 5(Complete) [FN] (977494) - Torrent Portal - Free BitTorrent File Download Index and Torrent Search

                As well as sex, you could also use this for your edging routine. According to her website there were some guys who used the trigger to achieve multiple orgasms by reaching orgasm and then quickly triggering a lower arousal level before ejaculation happened. BTW if you do download it, that trigger track is the one called 'Ultimate Orgasm'. The recordings are extremely professional.

                Let me know about any feedback you have,

                Cheers Guys,
                Tom
                Starting Stats

                NBPEL: 5.8"
                EG: 4.5"

                Goal

                NBPEL: 7.0"
                EG: 5.0"

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by kingpole View Post
                  How to:

                  1: Get an erection. Your goign to be at it a while so privacy and no destractions are the best conditions to start an edging routine.

                  2: If you are a two second man ejacualate first, wait for the return then proceed to edge. (masturbate)

                  3: Use a good lube, KY jelly is is to drying use a good hand lotion.

                  4: Stroke the base of your erect penis slowly move up toward the frenulim. The frenulim is the trigger this is what makes you cum to soon, avoid the frenulim unless you feel it is time to cum. Remember edging teaches you to be in control not your biological sensations.

                  5: If you feel the urge start to move back down to the base again. Keep the strokes slow at first don't stroke fast until you have mastered edging.

                  6: When you feel like you are about to cum(PONR) stop edging until the sensation leaves then resume edging (Masturbating)
                  PONR means point of no return. At this time you can play with your nuts. Explore for the "G" spots you did not realize you had in this area untill the sensation to ejaculate subsides.

                  You will learn when your shaft is loading up with cum to ejaculate. When you feel it in the base you can stop jerking off at this point instead of waiting for it to travle higher up the shaft.

                  After a few months of doing this those stopages will become dry orgasms. (ejaculating without cumming) This is a very spiritual expierence.
                  quick question
                  i heard some guys say to watch porn while others say it is better to edge without porn.
                  Does it depend on the person or is one way better than the other.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by figMiNT View Post
                    The reason why I edge/balloon. After stretching your muscles and then working them, think of edging or ballooning as a burn out. You're working that already tired buddy all the way to see how long it can still go for. I, personally, advocate edging/ballooning immediately after my last exercise.

                    Why? Because I hope that all of you do not exercise your penis at a 100% erection, I do mine at 40-60%. So then I allow the blood to fully enter my penis and then when it's fully erect I edge/balloon to spread that blood evenly throughout the penis. During the edging and ballooning what I do is hold allow the erection to subside and get erect again, to allow fresh blood to enter my penis (believed to be healthier for it).

                    Edging/Ballooning vs Masturbation
                    The goal isn't to jerk off to porn or see how fast you can stroke your penis with your hand. If that's what you're doing you are truly just masturbating. What I do is--well I don't lie on my back, as KP suggests, because my arms can't reach that far comfortably--sit up straight and have a very light grip on my shaft from the bottom. I slowly stroke it up and then down. Using slow motions and turning my hands every once in a while to spread the blood around. Once I am ready to go I stand up over a trash can and keep stroking. They still are slow. As I start to reach to point of no return (PONR)--not porn--I start to rub the glans and as I do this I add a light kegel. Once I'm about to blow I increase the hold and it feels like something is exploding out of my glans, but it isn't. Sometimes I ejaculate like once, but that's not it all and so I start right back up.

                    Edging: you blow your load afterwards
                    Ballooning: you do not.
                    Essentially though, edging is masturbation. If you rubbing your penis up till the PONR, then surely that's masturbation, whether you do it fast or slow, or while watching porn, either way, masturbation is masturbation.
                    Starting (21.03.09): 5.3" x 4.3"

                    Currently: 6.0" x 4.3"

                    Goal: 7.0" x 5.5"

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                    • Originally posted by The_Roc248 View Post
                      Essentially though, edging is masturbation. If you rubbing your penis up till the PONR, then surely that's masturbation, whether you do it fast or slow, or while watching porn, either way, masturbation is masturbation.
                      Well, if you really want to get specific, and now I do, you're right but very wrong.

                      Masturbation, serves one purpose: self gratification. The reason why you are doing this has nothing to do with spreading blood evenly around your penis. A lot of the times depending on hard you pull, or vigorous your motions are, you can squeeze one out in a matter of minutes.

                      Edging/Ballooning is not being done for the sake of pleasing yourself and getting yourself off, that's just a bonus, and for many once they learn how to, they will have multiple dry orgasms. Edging/Ballooning is said to be a stamina builder, I disagree with that.

                      I've already said it's main purpose, you're supposed to take it slow. I use both hands when edging/ballooning. I haven't masturbated for a very long time, because I don't find any benefits in doing so, my resolve is that I want gains not a minute of pleasure; a lifetime with a bigger penis, and better lasting sex sounds more appealing to me.

                      If your mindset is that edging and ballooning is just another form of masturbation, then all it will be for you is masturbation and you won't get as much out of it as other PEers, myself included have.

                      Originally posted by redin
                      quick question
                      i heard some guys say to watch porn while others say it is better to edge without porn.
                      Does it depend on the person or is one way better than the other.
                      The answer is what do you want be? Do you want to be someone who is dependent on a starlet in order to get up? Arousal is a learned thing. I cannot stress this enough. We learn what arouses us. That's why some men don't get it up as easily as others, because their still probably very new to sexual adventures. If you watch porn then you will most likely have high standards for what will turn you on or off. Otherwise let your imagination run wild, think about someone you have a physical desire (and for those who need it, a emotional desire) to be with. I prefer the latter, I want to be able to be thinking about who I'm with when I'm with them. I hate fantasizing about someone else when with someone. And I used to be a porn addict, so I'm pretty sure I'm aware of the effects porn has on everything.

                      The best way how I discern whose advice I will listen to more is their join date and their reputation, because anyone can post here and say whatever they want. But people that are veterans and moderators, I think they know better than even myself.
                      "Why pay for what you can get free"
                      How PE Works
                      (8/18/08) BPFL 4.12 FG 4.37 BPEL 6.75 EG 5.37
                      (3/08/09) BPFL 4.16 FG 4.25 BPEL 6.61 EG 5.25 After 7 months of no PE
                      (4/13/09) BPFL 4.18 FG 4.50 BPEL 6.75 EG 5.5

                      Lesson: PE WORKS
                      "We learn from failure, not from success!" - Bram Stoker
                      PE90X Routine

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                      • Im concerned about how permenant the gains from PE are. I figured you have to do a bit of maintenance after you have cemented. Would regular erections from either edging or sex be a sufficient maintenace routine?

                        Cheers,
                        Tom
                        Starting Stats

                        NBPEL: 5.8"
                        EG: 4.5"

                        Goal

                        NBPEL: 7.0"
                        EG: 5.0"

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                        • Originally posted by figMiNT View Post
                          Well, if you really want to get specific, and now I do, you're right but very wrong.

                          Masturbation, serves one purpose: self gratification. The reason why you are doing this has nothing to do with spreading blood evenly around your penis. A lot of the times depending on hard you pull, or vigorous your motions are, you can squeeze one out in a matter of minutes.

                          Edging/Ballooning is not being done for the sake of pleasing yourself and getting yourself off, that's just a bonus, and for many once they learn how to, they will have multiple dry orgasms. Edging/Ballooning is said to be a stamina builder, I disagree with that.

                          I've already said it's main purpose, you're supposed to take it slow. I use both hands when edging/ballooning. I haven't masturbated for a very long time, because I don't find any benefits in doing so, my resolve is that I want gains not a minute of pleasure; a lifetime with a bigger penis, and better lasting sex sounds more appealing to me.

                          If your mindset is that edging and ballooning is just another form of masturbation, then all it will be for you is masturbation and you won't get as much out of it as other PEers, myself included have.
                          Sorry. I'm not having a go at the theory of 'Edging', I'm just finding it difficult to get my head round it. Your information helped though. So rather than thinking of it as a form of masturbation, is it best to just focus of pushing blood around the penis and not getting aroused at all?

                          Thanks.
                          Starting (21.03.09): 5.3" x 4.3"

                          Currently: 6.0" x 4.3"

                          Goal: 7.0" x 5.5"

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                          • What's the reason every man has PE? To get a bigger penis or improve their EQ, which is still resulting in a bigger penis. What kind of bigger penis, flaccid or erect? For me it's both, but during intercourse erect is what matters. So let's stick with erect size (girth and length).

                            Now after you work your muscles in the penis by doing those exercises to stretch the penis and move the blood and tissue around. The overall goal of edging/ballooning is to get yourself to the highest EQ you can, gradually most likely. When you are close to the point of no return (PONR) you are close to emission.

                            During emission, when kegel (contract the PC floor muscles) you will be doing what I call a hold, and as a result you will stop yourself from ejaculating or cumming. If you do it too soon you will stop yourself from getting the fluid trapped in the penis, if you do it too late you will ejaculate. When I do a correct hold, I usually feel like my glans (head of the penis) is exploding and that there is a spray of cum, however nothing comes out, perhaps a little bit, but not much. This increases pressure in the penis and thus increases the size.

                            Your penis is a balloon. More pressure, the more it will expand. When I'm edging/ballooning with about 3 holds, I have a very large full, pants shredding penis. So the goal of edging/ballooning is more to get pressure build up in your penis, to really push your tissue even further than what you have with jelqs, squeezes, stretching, what have you.

                            This is my defintion of the two, that I took from a member at Thunders when I first joined this gym.
                            Edging: You ejaculate afterward.
                            Ballooning: You do not ejaculate.

                            Hope this helps you.
                            "Why pay for what you can get free"
                            How PE Works
                            (8/18/08) BPFL 4.12 FG 4.37 BPEL 6.75 EG 5.37
                            (3/08/09) BPFL 4.16 FG 4.25 BPEL 6.61 EG 5.25 After 7 months of no PE
                            (4/13/09) BPFL 4.18 FG 4.50 BPEL 6.75 EG 5.5

                            Lesson: PE WORKS
                            "We learn from failure, not from success!" - Bram Stoker
                            PE90X Routine

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                            • When you guys get really good at this im going to have to introduce you to supra slammers.


                              For I will restore health unto thee and I will heal thee of thine wounds, saith the Lord Jeremiah 30:17

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                              • i have a question, and its probably stupid, but ive never really masturbated before, i just cant stay interested in it and i dont really care for it much, and i have a hard time holding a strong erection by myself(porn or pictures doesnt really turn me on) but anyways when my gf first started going down on me, i wouldnt last very long, but after that i started pulling out when i felt a sensation and i would squeeze my pelvic muscle or whatever, and wait like 5-10 seconds, and then let her continue, id do that about 3-4 times and the orgasm was 10x better and more intense. Would this be the same as edging? Because now when she starts giving me head i can last for a longgg time last time i didnt even cum after quite some time
                                Starting Stats 8-13-09:

                                NBPEL - 6"
                                BPEL - 6.5"
                                EG - 4 1/2"


                                3-5 Month Goal:
                                NBPEL - 7"
                                EG - 5"

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