I would also suggest NOWHARDS turmeric mix for the varicocele as it also seems to be helping me, I just have no wood, which is why I'm considering this orchic extract
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I was doing research on glandulars and came upon this thread. Most of the reviews are good and people mention a more filling sensation in the testicles and sex drive.
If this is a potential analogue for HCG or precursor than it could have great potential. My only concern is the amount. One article mentioned that only 5-10% of the peptides from glandular extracts will survive. And considering our balls are around 18-25 grams each than we should be taking approximately two grams a day of the testicle stuff which will result in hopefully 6 grams of bovine material in our testicular tissues (after 1 month of supplementing) (corresponding gland extracts will go to corresponding organs according to my research).
And 6 grams of bovine peptides/tissue in our testicular area IS A LOT . Remember that bulls produce a lot more semen per "collection" and are much stronger than male humans. My research shows that bulls can produce 250 mL of semen a day and quality expensive bulls can produce several times that (potentially 5-6 times). So we're talking like fucking liters of jizz.
According to OP, he's definitely at the top threshold of semen production, but I am curious if he can go further. Like what happens if he took like 10 grams of the stuff a day
I'm going to order a few bottles of orchic extract from Swanson's tomorrow + the prostate extract.
I'll try the orchic first though for a month before trying the prostate. I'll cycle 2 weeks on, 1 week off and potentially 2 weeks off if need be.
How many capsules are you taking?Last edited by P4yn3; 09-10-2017, 08:55 PM.
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@booke84 I didn't opt for embolization because I've read scary stories including cases where the coil apparently caused cancer. I was thinking the same about the orchic possibly aiding in varicocele repairment, being part of the same organ. I did notice improved blood flow in the region including the scrotal veins and at some points the varicocele felt more circulatory than usual, making the veins a little less fat.
@p4ny3 Hey there, I'm very interested in hearing your progress, please keep us updated! I've quit the orchic because I decided I didn't want to take any risks regarding a varicocele (abnormally dilated veins in scrotum) I have had for a while now, wanting to fix it first. The orchic product is an extract containing 1 gram of orchic glandular per tab. I took 1 tab, so 1 gram a day. Made me feel great. I have no experience with a prostate glandular supplement so I warn you about that as other supplements which influence the prostate like saw palmetto have been reported to have negative consequences for your prostate and sexual health. It's a good idea you try the orchic first on its own. Cycling them could be wise, as I read it being reported on a bodybuilding website to, due to the anabolic contents of the tabs.
Please keep us updated!! Very interested.
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Alright, I had ordered 4 bottles of Swanson Orchic and 3 prostate extracts. The prostate stuff should HELP the prostate vs. Saw Palmetto which blocks DHT and shrinks the prostate gland. It's so cheap and there was 25% discount sale on all Swanson stuff + I found a 10% coupon, so 35% discount total
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The prostate is one of the locations in which testosterone is converted to DHT. And DHT is highly anabolic so it should work well in unison. You're right that I should be careful with messing with the prostate, but fuck it I want gains now.
As for your testicle injury, this tantric/taoist exercise may help:
http://lingamlife.com/tapping-and-ro...-for-men-only/
My package is on delivery and should arrive any minute. Will keep ya'll posted as I begin.
Edit: It arrived on time.
I'll start with 1 pill of orchic a day like the OP, for a week. See what happens.
Edit 2: I'm using this space as a log/journal for myself and others to document the effects.
After about 45 minutes after 1 pill I haven't grown a bull cock just yet but I am noticing a VERY slight sensation in the pelvic area. It could be because I am concentrating on the area and reading about testicular sensations like the OP suggested but honestly it feels different than any other sensation I remember having. Again, this is a VERY tiny sensation but noticeable enough. Could be placebo.
It actually reminds me of when I was like 14 or 15 years old and watching porn for the first time. OP, do you feel my sentiments are similar to what you experienced?
I'm 27 btw, so just a few years older than you and I've been on nofap for about 3 weeks.Last edited by P4yn3; 09-13-2017, 08:26 PM.
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I felt the sensation in the pelvic area to, it became stronger as the days passed by as I used them. I can recall indeed feeling like I was 14 to 15 years old again, making me feel great! Also I noticed that my testes were starting to shape up into a pristine state, hard but not to hard, the right shape and the biggest size they could be. For me it boosted testes health from the outward appearance and presumably the inward to.
Sensations in the pelvic area are definitely not a placebo, that's due to the orchic!
Keep us updated with what happens
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Hey, tell us your story, do you suffer with ED??Originally posted by P4yn3 View PostAlright, I had ordered 4 bottles of Swanson Orchic and 3 prostate extracts. The prostate stuff should HELP the prostate vs. Saw Palmetto which blocks DHT and shrinks the prostate gland. It's so cheap and there was 25% discount sale on all Swanson stuff + I found a 10% coupon, so 35% discount total
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The prostate is one of the locations in which testosterone is converted to DHT. And DHT is highly anabolic so it should work well in unison. You're right that I should be careful with messing with the prostate, but fuck it I want gains now.
As for your testicle injury, this tantric/taoist exercise may help:
Tapping and Rolling Testicles Massage (for men only) | Tantric and Taoist Practices, Massages and Techniques for Improving Sexual Health and Quality
My package is on delivery and should arrive any minute. Will keep ya'll posted as I begin.
Edit: It arrived on time.
I'll start with 1 pill of orchic a day like the OP, for a week. See what happens.
Edit 2: I'm using this space as a log/journal for myself and others to document the effects.
After about 45 minutes after 1 pill I haven't grown a bull cock just yet but I am noticing a VERY slight sensation in the pelvic area. It could be because I am concentrating on the area and reading about testicular sensations like the OP suggested but honestly it feels different than any other sensation I remember having. Again, this is a VERY tiny sensation but noticeable enough. Could be placebo.
It actually reminds me of when I was like 14 or 15 years old and watching porn for the first time. OP, do you feel my sentiments are similar to what you experienced?
I'm 27 btw, so just a few years older than you and I've been on nofap for about 3 weeks.
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Have you ever used viagra/cialis? Is the pelvic sensation you tale about similar to v/c ?Originally posted by Nikitis View PostI felt the sensation in the pelvic area to, it became stronger as the days passed by as I used them. I can recall indeed feeling like I was 14 to 15 years old again, making me feel great! Also I noticed that my testes were starting to shape up into a pristine state, hard but not to hard, the right shape and the biggest size they could be. For me it boosted testes health from the outward appearance and presumably the inward to.
Sensations in the pelvic area are definitely not a placebo, that's due to the orchic!
Keep us updated with what happens
I'm very intrigued by this and will be ordering soon!
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Interesting, so the testes themselves will begin to grow? I noticed a slight increase in size maybe 5% larger after just one day. Lets see, I'll take before and after pics, lol.Originally posted by Nikitis View PostI felt the sensation in the pelvic area to, it became stronger as the days passed by as I used them. I can recall indeed feeling like I was 14 to 15 years old again, making me feel great! Also I noticed that my testes were starting to shape up into a pristine state, hard but not to hard, the right shape and the biggest size they could be. For me it boosted testes health from the outward appearance and presumably the inward to.
Sensations in the pelvic area are definitely not a placebo, that's due to the orchic!
Keep us updated with what happens
Alright, guess who's back =)Originally posted by bloke84 View PostHey, tell us your story, do you suffer with ED??
So... something is going on.
One caveat is I accidentally ate a lot of ghost chili sauce by accident so I don't know if that was responsible for what happened or if something else is going on. I had some mild stomach pains which may I have triggered something else. No, I don't suffer from ED. Never used viagra or cialis.
Okay, after last night I had stayed up till 1 and probably fell asleep by 2:00.
I woke up at about 6:00ish feeling like my balls were going to explode. Both my stomach and balls were feeling extreme sensations (but not pain), tingling and pressure. Interestingly, my penis was not as aroused (more numbness) but that usually happens when I eat junk food and sleep late (which I did). My balls felt full as well as tight and firm. It seriously felt like puberty all over again. It was incredible. Because I only slept maybe 5 hours total, my brain is still somewhat sluggish otherwise I think I would be super horny.
I am guessing the initial sensations and pressure were an immune response by my body due to this foreign pathogen (these are bovine tissue/peptides/foreign organic matter after all).
I think after this it's going to get even better like OP said. Today I will take my regular desiccated thyroid pill along with 1 orchic tablet.
I'm shocked I felt something so quick. I am guessing that initial sensation I felt was legitimate and not a placebo as the sensations in the morning were in the same area (pelvic area, not just balls) but amplified 30X. I've used tongkat ali, tribulus, arginine, and the other dick boosters but never this. And nothing has worked so quick. I am genuinely surprised. Still, lets wait and see what happens today.
Edit: One more thing, I was taking testosterone cream (but not injections) for the past few months. They worked out okay but I'd like to get off them if I find something more potent.Last edited by P4yn3; 09-14-2017, 12:59 PM.
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Let us know if EQ improved, and if any improvement in ejaculate force and load! Keep it up, sounds great!Originally posted by P4yn3 View PostInteresting, so the testes themselves will begin to grow? I noticed a slight increase in size maybe 5% larger after just one day. Lets see, I'll take before and after pics, lol.
Alright, guess who's back =)
So... something is going on.
One caveat is I accidentally ate a lot of ghost chili sauce by accident so I don't know if that was responsible for what happened or if something else is going on. I had some mild stomach pains which may I have triggered something else. No, I don't suffer from ED. Never used viagra or cialis.
Okay, after last night I had stayed up till 1 and probably fell asleep by 2:00.
I woke up at about 6:00ish feeling like my balls were going to explode. Both my stomach and balls were feeling extreme sensations (but not pain), tingling and pressure. Interestingly, my penis was not as aroused (more numbness) but that usually happens when I eat junk food and sleep late (which I did). My balls felt full as well as tight and firm. It seriously felt like puberty all over again. It was incredible. Because I only slept maybe 5 hours total, my brain is still somewhat sluggish otherwise I think I would be super horny.
I am guessing the initial sensations and pressure were an immune response by my body due to this foreign pathogen (these are bovine tissue/peptides/foreign organic matter after all).
I think after this it's going to get even better like OP said. Today I will take my regular desiccated thyroid pill along with 1 orchic tablet.
I'm shocked I felt something so quick. I am guessing that initial sensation I felt was legitimate and not a placebo as the sensations in the morning were in the same area (pelvic area, not just balls) but amplified 30X. I've used tongkat ali, tribulus, arginine, and the other dick boosters but never this. And nothing has worked so quick. I am genuinely surprised. Still, lets wait and see what happens today.
Edit: One more thing, I was taking testosterone cream (but not injections) for the past few months. They worked out okay but I'd like to get off them if I find something more potent.
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@p4yn3
Yeah my testes did grow. Wow, sounds like you're on alot of stuff, dessicated thyroid, test cream, what were you taking the test cream for and how come you quit it? I think test cream withdrawal could cause pretty serious hypogonadism. I'm curious what the orchic extract will do for you with this in mind. Keep us updated!
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The testes usually rebound and become more productive. It is during the supplementing that the issue arises.ALL THE WAY WITH GOOD OLE JAY!
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Alright, yesterday was pretty uneventful. I've been doing research on this orchic stuff. Used to be popular before testosterone was discovered and synthesized, hmm...
No more testicle sensations, I've been off the cream for two days for the first time in months. EQ seems good, although I'm still nofapping and only watched like 2 mins of porn.
I wasn't on a ton of stuff, just the test cream and thyroid.
Haven't gotten any low t side effects just yet, maybe the orchic is helping?
I'll check my EQ today after breakfast.
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Yeah what personally worries me is the fact you've used test cream and presumably have a thyroid disorder, I mean I can't condone this orchic extract to be a proper substitute for any TRT medication you've been receiving. It might do something, it might not, due to the fact your testes have been affected by exogenous testosterone already. You do know that testosterone replacement therapy is normally ment to be for the rest of your life? Recovering your natural T production could take years when you get off again, and in some cases it doesn't happen at all. Then include the fact you already had low T production to begin with because you required testosterone cream, and things start to look very grim imo. Count in thyroid disorder which affects T production as well.Originally posted by P4yn3 View PostAlright, yesterday was pretty uneventful. I've been doing research on this orchic stuff. Used to be popular before testosterone was discovered and synthesized, hmm...
No more testicle sensations, I've been off the cream for two days for the first time in months. EQ seems good, although I'm still nofapping and only watched like 2 mins of porn.
I wasn't on a ton of stuff, just the test cream and thyroid.
Haven't gotten any low t side effects just yet, maybe the orchic is helping?
I'll check my EQ today after breakfast.
It's a very interesting experiment to see if something noteworthy happens after having quit TRT using the orchic extract, but you should be well aware that it is unproven wether or not it can cause restart of natural T production or replace TRT so use at your own risk.
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