Anyone tried frozen bovine orchic extract?

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Morning update: Past few days since my last orgasm my balls have been harder than normal and more consistently harder.

I had taken Vitamin A, Vitamin D, mid-day and 500 mg magnesium oxide + melatonin + zinc before bed.

Plus 3 orchics throughout the day.

I woke up this morning with very strong morning wood, sex drive and arousal. This lasted for HOURS.

No I'm not getting estrogen effects from the orchic I was talking about people using bovine ovaries.

I've been doing tons of reading on glandular extracts and I am thinking about using porcine pituitary extracts. The reason for porcine is that there's no risk of prion disease.

Research has shown that porcine pituitary extracts can increase genital weight:

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/1...3.sp003076/pdf

Pituitary effects on ovaries:
https://books.google.ca/books?id=1OW...20size&f=false

"Macerated pituitary tissue implants made the immature mouse ovary increase up to 20x in weight"

I think the combination of both orchic and pituitary extracts could lead to some interesting results.

I'm thinking of ordering this supplement (in a few weeks):

https://www.amazon.com/Dr-Wilsons-Or...enal+rebuilder

I'm also taking a break from the orchic as I think it's time to cycle off it for awhile. Lets see how long the effects last without intake.

Update: Went to a store and the hot female manager seemed to make strong eye + smiles with me. Hard to tell if she was just being friendly but it was similar to what I experienced at the dealership. Other then that I've been busy so not too much experience outdoors...

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I can't wait to get on these babies again. I'm getting new impulses to make this varicocele fuck off! Just couldn't bring myself up for it the last couple of days, but had an inspiration today to just give it my all. Will start the orchic tabs soon after!

Also getting myself vitamin A, K2 and D. That Dr. Wilson supplement looks nice indeed, I might look for a retailer that ships to my country. I love these glands!!

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The girls giving you more attention is definitely the orchic tabs talking. I remember when on Test E I had more attention of females to. I even read about a dude who was a waiter and would put some liquid testosterone on his hand, and would ask girls at tables for their number. Everytime he had the liquid T on his hand they would give them their number! Might be bro science, but I'm a believer. Those orchic tabs cause higher natural T levels and the females take notice!

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The girls giving you more attention is definitely the orchic tabs talking. I remember when on Test E I had more attention of females to. I even read about a dude who was a waiter and would put some liquid testosterone on his hand, and would ask girls at tables for their number. Everytime he had the liquid T on his hand they would give them their number! Might be bro science, but I'm a believer. Those orchic tabs cause higher natural T levels and the females take notice!

Must be pheromones. I've heard similar from testosterone users.

Morning update: My balls have been hard and swollen all night + morning. Had a slight wet dream but was able to stop most of it. Balls are still sore. I'm going to massage them soon. Sex drive very high.

This morning update: Strong erections morning wood, libido. BTW, did I mention I had basically ZERO morning wood prior to starting orchic (this has been happening for years, despite other supplements and perfect sleep)

Quick update: Friday, Oct 20

Balls have been swollen and quite hard. Almost painfully hard. Took 2 prostate just in case there was a prostate problem and now it's fine. EQ is very strong.

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Update for the past few days:

I've noticed myself getting a bit more angrier/aggressive since I stopped the orchic. Now mind you my diet and exercise has also gone to shit so it could be that.

I actually slept early last night and woke up with very strong morning wood. This has been the case for several days now, but it depends on the quality of sleep.

I will be starting the orchic and other supplements again today.

Edit: Also had some looks and smiles when I went to Wal-Mart. Nothing major because of these damn wetdreams, urgh!

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Hmmm... Don't get angry or agressive bro, that could get you into trouble before you know it lol.

I got my vitamin A, took it once and already feeling much better in the head.

For how long are you gonna cycle the orchic tabs?

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These orchic tabs are quite remarkable, as long as you can get over the fact that you're eating crushed cattle balls!

The like heals like theory is definitely true for this.
I can say that as a chronic ED and PE sufferer, both have improved, ED is still there but not as bad, and I have continued to use cialis to have sex, PE is no longer an issue since using orchic extract. Orgasms are more intense and ejaculate volume has increased.
Before I started orchic, when I used cialis to have sex I would suffer really bad PE, but not anymore.

As for the pheromone effect, I would also agree with this, as my ex went from not being able to stand being near me to not being able to keep her hands off me.

So some interesting stuff here for sure!

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What a remarkable experience Bloke! Great to hear.

There is one thing I really gotta get off my chest guys. I don't want you guys to fuck up your pituitary glands (in your brains). There are hormones presumably present in orchic tabs which are also secreted by the pituitary gland, these are Luteinizing Hormone (LH in short) and Follicle Stimulating Hormone (FSH in short) and like in Hormone Replacement Therapy in which testosterone from the outside makes your testicles shrink and stop production of testosterone, I fear that something similar (or worse) could happen to the pituitary gland when swallowing orchic tabs due to the FSH and LH present in them. Wether the pituitary gland could shrink, shut down, become dysfunctional, I have no idea what the consequences of orchic tabs can be on it but it is a possibility that just as in HRT and the testicles, something happens to the pituitary gland.

What do you guys think?

Pituitary gland is also sold as a supplement btw! It could potentially stimulate more LH and FSH secretion which increases T production in the testicles and testicles size.

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And p4yn3, on the increase in aggression, read this: https://books.google.com/books?id=--...%20use&f=false

Some of the aggression in regards to consumption of testosterone is associated with increased levels of serotonin in the hypothalamus and brain stem. The link that I posted mentions it surrounding testosterone injections as steroids, but the same could apply to testosterone from orchic tabs.

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These orchic tabs are quite remarkable, as long as you can get over the fact that you're eating crushed cattle balls!

The like heals like theory is definitely true for this.
I can say that as a chronic ED and PE sufferer, both have improved, ED is still there but not as bad, and I have continued to use cialis to have sex, PE is no longer an issue since using orchic extract. Orgasms are more intense and ejaculate volume has increased.
Before I started orchic, when I used cialis to have sex I would suffer really bad PE, but not anymore.

As for the pheromone effect, I would also agree with this, as my ex went from not being able to stand being near me to not being able to keep her hands off me.

So some interesting stuff here for sure!

Very interesting. I've noticed the same. Yes you're right ED is still somewhat a problem, but it's FAR better than where it should be. I agree with the orgasms and ejaculate volume thing 100%. It's a huge increase. Same with the PE.

Actually I feel like even if I have a PE issues I can easily get ready for round 2. Whereas before it took a lot longer. I haven't experimented yet but I feel like I did during puberty where I could go for 3, 4, 5 or even 6 rounds (haven't tried yet though, lol).

Erection strength still needs some adjustment. I have incredible morning wood but it tapers off (maybe testosterone decrease?). Exercise seems to help a little.

Interesting note about the pheromone effect. Exes seem like a good test. This must prove that hormone levels are increasing. Women are attracted to high testosterone men:

https://www.livescience.com/28812-wo...anly-guys.html

As for the pituitary issue, I don't understand the logic. Sounds like bullshit. This might be true if you're jacking off 5 times a day but I haven't been. Also, the person you're getting advice from doesn't even think orchic works so he's obviously ignorant or just plain stupid.

I've been reading about bovine and porcine PITUITARY extracts and am interested in their use. The bovine pituitary may help increase growth hormone and further increase LH and FSH, testicle size, potentially penis size and more:

https://www.amazon.com/Standard-Proc.../dp/B0055LJ7KS
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pituitary_gland

http://jeb.biologists.org/content/je...4/535.full.pdf
http://www.ajog.org/article/S0378-43...285-1/abstract
http://www.biochemj.org/content/ppbi...2/383.full.pdf

https://books.google.ca/books?id=kAX...20size&f=false

https://academic.oup.com/endo/articl...dFrom=fulltext

Then potentially hypothalamus extracts as well:

https://academic.oup.com/endo/articl...dFrom=fulltext


So basically the idea is that pituitary produces HGH, TSH (thyroid hormone), corticotropins, ACTH, gonadotropins (LH, FSH), oxytocin and other important molecules. According to the early endocrinology research above the pituitary can help produce androgens in the case of castration (so basically the pituitary grows and produces more GnRH and gonadotropins in order to compensate for the lack of testicles:

https://academic.oup.com/jcem/articl...tration-in-Men

And the reason I'm talking about the hypothalamus is because it regulates pituitary function and again growth hormone. Actually it produces something called 'Growth Hormone Releasing Hormone:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Growth...easing_hormone

hypo.jpg

This combination of orchic extracts (lets say 2-10 grams), hypothalamus extract (1-2 grams because the hypothalamus is small and low in weight), pituitary (500 mg - 1 gram) could lead to huge gains. I've heard of people with pituitary adenomas growing in height, limb length, etc. Even penis size and testicle size increased WELL after puberty with pituitary adenomas (which are essentially growths in the pituitary).

This could be huge. But I can't afford the pills right now.

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Very interesting. I've noticed the same. Yes you're right ED is still somewhat a problem, but it's FAR better than where it should be. I agree with the orgasms and ejaculate volume thing 100%. It's a huge increase. Same with the PE.

Actually I feel like even if I have a PE issues I can easily get ready for round 2. Whereas before it took a lot longer. I haven't experimented yet but I feel like I did during puberty where I could go for 3, 4, 5 or even 6 rounds (haven't tried yet though, lol).

Erection strength still needs some adjustment. I have incredible morning wood but it tapers off (maybe testosterone decrease?). Exercise seems to help a little.

Interesting note about the pheromone effect. Exes seem like a good test. This must prove that hormone levels are increasing. Women are attracted to high testosterone men:

https://www.livescience.com/28812-wo...anly-guys.html

As for the pituitary issue, I don't understand the logic. Sounds like bullshit. This might be true if you're jacking off 5 times a day but I haven't been. Also, the person you're getting advice from doesn't even think orchic works so he's obviously ignorant or just plain stupid.

I've been reading about bovine and porcine PITUITARY extracts and am interested in their use. The bovine pituitary may help increase growth hormone and further increase LH and FSH, testicle size, potentially penis size and more:

https://www.amazon.com/Standard-Proc.../dp/B0055LJ7KS
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pituitary_gland

http://jeb.biologists.org/content/je...4/535.full.pdf
http://www.ajog.org/article/S0378-43...285-1/abstract
http://www.biochemj.org/content/ppbi...2/383.full.pdf

https://books.google.ca/books?id=kAX...20size&f=false

https://academic.oup.com/endo/articl...dFrom=fulltext

Then potentially hypothalamus extracts as well:

https://academic.oup.com/endo/articl...dFrom=fulltext


So basically the idea is that pituitary produces HGH, TSH (thyroid hormone), corticotropins, ACTH, gonadotropins (LH, FSH), oxytocin and other important molecules. According to the early endocrinology research above the pituitary can help produce androgens in the case of castration (so basically the pituitary grows and produces more GnRH and gonadotropins in order to compensate for the lack of testicles:

https://academic.oup.com/jcem/articl...tration-in-Men

And the reason I'm talking about the hypothalamus is because it regulates pituitary function and again growth hormone. Actually it produces something called 'Growth Hormone Releasing Hormone:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Growth...easing_hormone

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This combination of orchic extracts (lets say 2-10 grams), hypothalamus extract (1-2 grams because the hypothalamus is small and low in weight), pituitary (500 mg - 1 gram) could lead to huge gains. I've heard of people with pituitary adenomas growing in height, limb length, etc. Even penis size and testicle size increased WELL after puberty with pituitary adenomas (which are essentially growths in the pituitary).

This could be huge. But I can't afford the pills right now.

interestng. where can you buy these pills?

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Any conclusion on these bovine pills?

[P4yn3 Member Find all posts View Profile Close P4yn3]

Any conclusion on these bovine pills?

They work. Effects are subtle to dramatic. Seems to come in waves.

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I noticed this as well. I didn't want to say anything, but you described the effect it had on me quite well.

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interestng. where can you buy these pills?

They are sold on Amazon and the Swanson website. They're by Swanson.