Do It Yourself Blood Vessel Growth.

[BeavisMacon Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close BeavisMacon]

I had wondered about that. What you reported about bit of growth and vascularity it's the same thing that I and many guys said when they first started jelqing.

This is far beyond what I got from jelqing. Similar to bathmate sessions but I don't feel nearly as sore.

[CUSP82 Administrator Admin of the Month Dec 2014PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close CUSP82]

Hey that's great for you.

[raybbaby Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close raybbaby]

Just measured, no gains to report. Ah well, we will see what this next week brings.

[Squirt55 Member Find all posts View Profile Close Squirt55]

For the privacy of the members, we do not discuss specific infractions, bans, etc. of members.

I've seen people get banned and then someone had asked why and the moderator promptly gave a brief explanation without going into to much detail.
And if he put up a link to anything I've seen moderators warn people a couple of times for putting up links before being banned. If it was his behavior unless he was directly threatening anyone or cussing people out I don't see why he should have been banned.

And honestly I feel like at least a couple of people (don't know if you're moderators or not) on this thread have come across as condescending like because he has a new idea its total bs and he's clearly just trying to scam people for money even though it's a simple exercise which can be performed for free with a little lube of some kind.
Also, even if he did believe it to be the only way to gain size, who cares? He believed in what he was posting and was contributing to the community in his own way. So why did he get banned?
Honestly, I'm starting to think it was just because people and/or certain moderators got pissed off at him for saying PE didn't work and only his method did and the second he posted an outside link they jumped at the opportunity to ban him. I mean no disrespect by this post. I just feel like the reason behind him being banned conspicuously convoluted....
From what I could see he was probably presumptuous at worst. He was new. He should have been given a warning. I swear one of the people or moderators (again don't know which) was reaching for a reason to ban him by asking if it sas a marketing gimmick.... All I saw was hate monger towards him and then BANNED.. Wth...

[DDCRLO Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close DDCRLO]

Let's give the guy a chance. He may have come up with something. Time will tell...

[CUSP82 Administrator Admin of the Month Dec 2014PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close CUSP82]

Okay let me explain something. The guy has as much knowledge of biology and the way the body works as I do about plumbing. You have a guy, maybe smart, that went to the University of the Internet and now he's the smartest guy on the planet in regards to the body. Hell he even took the name of a Roman god and no one argues with a god.

His whole premise; keep the body in a state of inflamation because that's good. Change you're diet; eat more calories than you should but only certain things and he grew in 45 days. Don't eat things that will be anti inflamatory because inflamation will be your friend.
Guess what? Maybe his method might help but not in 45 days.
As for his biological reasoning? Here's what you should do. Go out and tell all your friends and loved ones you met a Roman god on the net and we should all keep our bodies in a state of inflamation because it helps blood vessels grow ( which it doesn't). Stay away from anti oxidants because they de inflame the body. They will be so happy you improved their health. Just make sure that no one googles cancer and inflamation because guess what? Cancer just loves inflamation. It not only helps it grow it may actually help cause it! Hell the world is too crowded to begin with so do your part for the environment and decrease the population.
As for throwing him out? Nope it wasn't me. I would have toyed with the boy scientist for a bit and then thrown him out but I never got my chance!

[Mike03016 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Mike03016]

As for throwing him out? Nope it wasn't me. I would have toyed with the boy scientist for a bit and then thrown him out but I never got my chance!

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That can’t be all it takes to get tossed. Hell, I have read more ridiculous stuff in the Device area and most of that is barely questioned.
As for the gains in 45 days... actually mild compared to the number of statements on this site and others of 2” plus gains in only a bit more time (and again, barely questioned and some are even main advisers).

I am not a Janus disciple, hell I actually openly disagree with many points of his instruction but... I enjoy the outside the box idea and really think with the proper testing this has potential to be a useful PE tool.
He isn’t asking for any $, he isn’t asking to join his private community,
He has simply presented an idea, an idea he obviously believes in (would he be getting less flack if he only believed in this 60% instead of the 100% he does?) and letting the PE community try it out IF they want to.

This community decided not to give it a chance, ok that is fine. Not sure why the need to bad mouth or discredit someone that has already been banned.

[Mike03016 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Mike03016]

Just measured, no gains to report. Ah well, we will see what this next week brings.

As for people worried about a scam... on the internet, a place where the majority of people post amazing gains and 8+ inch members you have the above honest post after three weeks.

Not saying everyone is or will be this honest but above is one report... he has posted some positive points that he has seen in his initial couple of week trial and posted the ruler info.

Seems like great information on the start of data collection and he openly shared it.
I thought this was the point of this community... maybe I was naive and the point is just to post about 8+ inch members and purchasing products and services (yep... AM is the scam...).

[CUSP82 Administrator Admin of the Month Dec 2014PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close CUSP82]

Like I said I had nothing to do with it.
Now if we had a guy here who said smoking was good and everyone should should we allow him to remain when we all know it's bad?
Now go look at his videos and his explanation on how good inflamation is and then go google cancer and inflamation and tell me if you want to do it. Had he stuck with "hey I have a new technique that may work and here it is" and stopped with all the life changing ideas that according to his research says it's good when it really is not than fine.

If you want to do his method and it works out for you then great. If you want to do all the other crap because his research tells him we should then bad for you.

Oh irritate the blood vessels and they'll grow and be more numerous and then the tissue will grow and your dick will get bigger which is the exact opposite of how it works. Blood vessels grow due to a need by the tissues as tissue needs more blood to grow.

Do you know what a hemangioma is? Don't look it up I'll save you the trouble. It's a vast collection of small blood vessels that grew for some unknown reason. Some people have them on their face and they call it a port wine stain or a birthmark. My mother had one around her eye from birth. So tell me if tissue grows in response to lots of blood in an area why didn't her head grow bigger on that side? ( which would have made her look really funny)

[Mike03016 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Mike03016]

Do you know what a hemangioma is? Don't look it up I'll save you the trouble. It's a vast collection of small blood vessels that grew for some unknown reason. Some people have them on their face and they call it a port wine stain or a birthmark. My mother had one around her eye from birth. So tell me if tissue grows in response to lots of blood in an area why didn't her head grow bigger on that side? ( which would have made her look really funny)

You are making your point to the wrong person. I am one of the people that openly questions the diet, and AM alone is the best bang for your time PE.
But, as an anal mathematics guy I do see how this may give improved results when combined with other forms of PE (and I have stated a couple of times -not on this site- that even tho I would be considered to have an extremely healthy diet, I am not willing to do any diet that I can’t eat biscuits, gravy, bacon, and eggs at least once a week).
Doing a stretching, hanging, vacuum routine followed by overloading the tissue with blood flow seems sensible for healing and improving tissue growth/expansion.
Do these go together? Janus says no... I want to experiment.
Maybe with stretching it doesn’t work, maybe it only work when combined with vacuum PE... I don’t know yet.
At the end of the day it may be just a wasted 30 minutes but I have religiously done routines that produced zero results over 6-8 months and that is pretty normal after the newbie gains have been exhausted.
Maybe... just maybe this can offer additional gains after the newbie stuff and cut six months to a year or so off the time spent to see the next set of gains.

The bottom line is right now we all (99% of us) know this works (PE). We have seen gains, modified our routines, seen some more gains, gotten frustrated, modified some more...
Old saying about the definition of insanity (all ya’ll know it so I won’t type it).... maybe it makes more sense then not to look/test outside the box a bit.

[CUSP82 Administrator Admin of the Month Dec 2014PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close CUSP82]

Yo Mike I'm not making the point to you but to all so they have a better understanding. Hell I don't care if this guys reasoning is all wrong; many a good invention has been discovered yet the premise was faulty. I just want people to be safe.

[Tamora Retired Super Moderator Member of the Month Aug 2015 PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Tamora]

I've seen people get banned and then someone had asked why and the moderator promptly gave a brief explanation without going into to much detail.
And if he put up a link to anything I've seen moderators warn people a couple of times for putting up links before being banned. If it was his behavior unless he was directly threatening anyone or cussing people out I don't see why he should have been banned.

And honestly I feel like at least a couple of people (don't know if you're moderators or not) on this thread have come across as condescending like because he has a new idea its total bs and he's clearly just trying to scam people for money even though it's a simple exercise which can be performed for free with a little lube of some kind.
Also, even if he did believe it to be the only way to gain size, who cares? He believed in what he was posting and was contributing to the community in his own way. So why did he get banned?
Honestly, I'm starting to think it was just because people and/or certain moderators got pissed off at him for saying PE didn't work and only his method did and the second he posted an outside link they jumped at the opportunity to ban him. I mean no disrespect by this post. I just feel like the reason behind him being banned conspicuously convoluted....
From what I could see he was probably presumptuous at worst. He was new. He should have been given a warning. I swear one of the people or moderators (again don't know which) was reaching for a reason to ban him by asking if it sas a marketing gimmick.... All I saw was hate monger towards him and then BANNED.. Wth...

I can categorically tell you that he was not banned because of his new idea. If that were the case then this thread would have been closed, or even deleted out of sight. It has not and the discussions continue on this "new method". Does it make sense that he was banned for his idea and yet this thread is still open?

As moderators we are obliged as part of our role to not divulge personal information on members, whether they be banned or not. Those are the rules that we are bound by. If I had my way I would have no problem in divulging why he was banned. What I can tell you is that he was banned for a totally separate issue from his "new method".

I hope this is enough to alleviate your concerns, but somehow I doubt it. Mods and admins only have the safety and well-being of our members as a priority. None of us want to ban members if it can be avoided and banning is a last resort. We are here to help and guide members, not to play Hitler. One also has to remember that mods and admins are individuals in their own right and do have their own personal opinions. Sometimes one of us may get things wrong, but if this happens we will strive to put things right as a collective as soon as possible.

Oh! And for your information, I didn't ban him either but I would have done given the same circumstances to the unrelated issue that arose which was completely separate from his posting of his "new method".

[Big Al AdministratorPEGym EditorMale Enhancement Coach Rep.PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Big Al]

I've seen people get banned and then someone had asked why and the moderator promptly gave a brief explanation without going into to much detail.
And if he put up a link to anything I've seen moderators warn people a couple of times for putting up links before being banned. If it was his behavior unless he was directly threatening anyone or cussing people out I don't see why he should have been banned.

And honestly I feel like at least a couple of people (don't know if you're moderators or not) on this thread have come across as condescending like because he has a new idea its total bs and he's clearly just trying to scam people for money even though it's a simple exercise which can be performed for free with a little lube of some kind.
Also, even if he did believe it to be the only way to gain size, who cares? He believed in what he was posting and was contributing to the community in his own way. So why did he get banned?
Honestly, I'm starting to think it was just because people and/or certain moderators got pissed off at him for saying PE didn't work and only his method did and the second he posted an outside link they jumped at the opportunity to ban him. I mean no disrespect by this post. I just feel like the reason behind him being banned conspicuously convoluted....
From what I could see he was probably presumptuous at worst. He was new. He should have been given a warning. I swear one of the people or moderators (again don't know which) was reaching for a reason to ban him by asking if it sas a marketing gimmick.... All I saw was hate monger towards him and then BANNED.. Wth...

Nothing will be gained on your end by attempting to discern why the member in question was banned, but suffice it to say your suspicion is unwarranted.

[Big Al AdministratorPEGym EditorMale Enhancement Coach Rep.PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Big Al]

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That can’t be all it takes to get tossed. Hell, I have read more ridiculous stuff in the Device area and most of that is barely questioned.
As for the gains in 45 days... actually mild compared to the number of statements on this site and others of 2” plus gains in only a bit more time (and again, barely questioned and some are even main advisers).

I am not a Janus disciple, hell I actually openly disagree with many points of his instruction but... I enjoy the outside the box idea and really think with the proper testing this has potential to be a useful PE tool.
He isn’t asking for any $, he isn’t asking to join his private community,
He has simply presented an idea, an idea he obviously believes in (would he be getting less flack if he only believed in this 60% instead of the 100% he does?) and letting the PE community try it out IF they want to.

This community decided not to give it a chance, ok that is fine. Not sure why the need to bad mouth or discredit someone that has already been banned.

He was not banned for presenting his idea to the forum.

[Mike03016 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Mike03016]

He was not banned for presenting his idea to the forum.

I have never claimed he was.
I just made the generic point that for whatever reason the AM is not really be done here.
I am not part of the ‘banning’ discussion.