Shockwave therapy DIY

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RESULTS AFTER 15 TREATMENT (every other day)
I was still doing the aggressive treatment at .38mJ/mm2, with a total of 6000 pulses at treatment 13. This may have been overkill so the last 2 treatments have been at .09, but still 6000 pulses. What I have noticed lately is morning wood quite often. .

The most incredible thing that happened was that I was watching my wife undress and I got a spontaneous erection (#1 on a scale of 1-4) for about 2 minutes. So it was no pants splitting boner that lasted long enough to satisfy a dozen women, but it happened, and it has been years since I got a boner out of the blue.

I gave myself a 1.5ml shot of trimix before sex yesterday and it kept me hard throughout. Before these shockwave treatments, 7ml of trimix wouldn't last long enough to get the job done under the sheets. What's more, the next day I got another soft erection while cuddling which became about a #3 for a little while during oral sex.

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Thanks for sharing this! I am thinking if getting a machine. Please keep us posted with any new results!

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RESULTS AFTER 21 TREATMENTS

TREATMENT
I've been doing treatments every other day since Aug 12. I started with as pulse strength of .09 mJ/mm2 and have gone up and down. Lately I have been doing it at about .25. I also started at 1000 pulses per side and 500 on each crus, and for the last two weeks or so its been 2000 per side and 1000 on each crus. In addition to shockwave treatments I have a penis pump/vacuum erection device which I use daily to pump up my penis and deflate it about 5 times.


PRE-TREATMENT
Viagra didn't do anything for me. I am on a 30/30/2 mixture of trimix which is very strong. A dose of .7cc would give me an erection, but not long enough to finish sex. I would occasionally get morning erections, but never spontaneous ones. Direct stimulation would only get me to a 1-2 on the Erection Hardness scale (1-4).


RESULTS
Lately I have had more morning erections. I've had no spontaneous erections since the last report. The following happened last 10 days: Direct stimulation will got me to a 2-3 without medication. I gave myself a .1cc injection and it lasted for over an hour giving me an erection that varied between 3 and 4 (completely hard). I tried Viagra before sex on one occasion and it did nothing, although it had worked half way at on point after treatment. For sex I gave myself a .3cc injection. Even though I knew a .1cc would probably work, I didn't want my lovemaking to turn into experiment time. I stayed very had throughout.


In sum, My erections are much better since the treatments, even though I still need trimix. I have very severe ED due to a venous leak, which may take more time to fix, or may never heal completely. For me success is being able to have sex without worrying about whether the dose was right, or not stopping in the middle because the effect wore off and having to use the penis pump and a ring to finish. Am I glad I spent the money on the shockwave machine? Definitely.

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Awesome man! Happy for you that you are seeing results. Keep us posted.

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Any new updates now that it's been two months?

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Great thread. Very interesting. How does your experiment differ from the Gainswave protocol? Are you using the same machine used in Gainswave treatments?

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RESULTS AFTER 2 MONTHS

My cock continues to be larger when not erect. There is no difference in size when erect, but remember that shockwave is not a length extending procedure. I got a spontaneous erection at about a 2 hardness once in the last few weeks. I continue to get morning wood fairly often. I notice no difference in sensitivity. I know that shockwave isn't designed for that, but I was hoping may be some tangential benefit. I think some Gainswave testimonials mentioned improvements in sensitivity.

As an experiment I took Viagra on two occasions. It did nothing once and the other time I got an erection, but it was hard to sustain. Prior to shockwave therapy Viagra did zero. The biggest improvement continues to be that I need only small amounts of trimix to get and maintain an erection. I experimented with .05cc (.5ml) and it worked for about 45 min, but probably wouldn't have been enough for sex. My prior experiments showed that .1cc worked very well, but as far as sex is concerned, a .1cc injection of trimix isn't enough. I need .2. I'm guessing that with the venous leak the movements during sex let a lot of blood leak out. I'm not complaining about it though.

After my last shockwave treatment I noticed a dark looking spot on the underside of my penis and wondered if it was a bruise. The treatments have never caused bruising before. When I looked closer it turned out to be a cluster of blood vessels. Now, I don't remember seeing that dark spot before so I'm assuming either those are new vessels or old vessels that have gotten larger. Of course, it's not scientific proof, maybe they've been there all along and I hadn't noticed. Now I wish I had taken before treatment pictures to compare with, which would be the only way to know for sure.

The medical studies show that people with severe ED get more improvement, since they are starting with lower levels. At the same time it shows that severe cases are harder to cure. If I never get to the point of getting erections without using trimix or Viagra, I will still consider the treatments worth the time and money. Why? Because I was getting to the point where trimix wasn't going to help me for much longer. I had to use stronger mixtures and larger doses, and they still weren't lasting long enough to get the job done. An implant would have been the next step, and that would have been very expensive and invasive. I will continue the treatments.

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Great thread. Very interesting. How does your experiment differ from the Gainswave protocol? Are you using the same machine used in Gainswave treatments?

No it's not a Gainswave machine. They do many fewer treatments. It thinks its 3 weeks on, 3 with no treatments, then another 3 weeks. I don't recall if it's 1 or 2 treatments per week. I'm doing every other day, 2000 pulses on each side and 1000 on each crus.

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Gainswave is 3 single treatments for a week, then 3 weeks off and then 3 more treatments. Some do more after that. Common to combine with the P-Shot.

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Dr. Iwin Goldstein said GainsWave is a sham and because it is just acoustic and not shock but the dornier aries machine does produce actual shockwave, anyone have info on this? Anyone have good referral for shockwave therapy in Los Angeles?

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I HAD SEX WITHOUT ERECTION AIDS. FIRST TIME IN 16 YEARS

A little under three months and about 38 shockwave treatments later it finally happened. I was able to have sex without any kind of erection aid. It had been about 16 years since that happened. Prior to that time my love life was anything but spontaneous. While I should have been concentrating on enjoying the pleasure and connection with my wife, I was constantly wondering if whatever I had done to get an erection would work long enough to get the job done. Was I going to get there before my cock goes numb because of the ring I'd put on? Was the trimix injection well placed? Was I starting to get soft? If so, I'd have to jump of and say "Sorry Honey, just wait there a second, keep that state of arousal, don't give up on me, I've just got to run and get the penis pump, set it up, and get a ring on so I can get back to you. Hopefully you haven't got out of the mood, or fallen asleep before I can get it up again."

All this worry and my internal dialog with myself was making it hard for me to relax and let it happen. (Am I going to get there before it wears off? What if we switch positions? I hope she's not getting frustrated; we've been at it a while.) That led to many a session in which I just couldn't get there. I know guys with premature ejaculation would be envious. Sometimes it meant that my wife had multiple orgasms, which is wonderful, but she's told me that a huge part of her pleasure is being the source of mine, and sometimes I'd hump till I'd drop from exhaustion.

Viagra had stopped working a long time ago, spontaneous erections were non-existent, and morning wood was very occasional. Trimix was my last hope, but even with that, the doctor had been giving me stronger and stronger mixtures. I was up to .7cc injections and even those were wearing off before I was able to orgasm. Another thing is that each large injection is about $10 a pop, whether or not I pop or not. My wife has always been understanding and never said anything negative about me or my performance, but it sure made every lovemaking session more like an experiment in a lab to see what will work and what won't. She did comment on that.

As far as how bad my ED is, the best way to say it is that without some kind of help, it's not going to happen. That puts me on the severe end of the scale, 6/30 on the IIEF scale. The cause is a venous leak. I've got varicose veins that allow blood to flow back the wrong way, in this case out of my penis, rather than trapping it in where it is needed.

Now to the big question. What has changed compared to three months ago? Well I've tried Viagra a few times and it didn't work well enough for penetration, so that is a negative. The small positive gains have been more morning wood, and a few weak, but spontaneous erections. My penis has noticeably changed a bit also. I'm not talking about improvements in size, which were not a goal to begin with. However, there is some good evidence that the blood flow is improved. First of all, when limp is it longer than it used to be when limp. Second, when I create an erection in the vacuum pump, it used to take a lot more time and pumping to get it to full mast. It hardly takes much to draw in blood, which must mean there are more veins, or at least their capacity has been expanded. I also think I see some surface veins that didn't used to be there, but I can't be sure since I don't have before pictures.

The best thing was that last night my wife crawled into bed, found I had a night erection and woke me up to take advantage of it. It was only a #3 hardness on the scale of 0-4, but it was sufficient. I was actually surprised it lasted long enough to get 'er done. I figured as some point I'd have to get it up by artificial means to continue, but that didn't happen. A few days before I'd got a #3 stiffy from a bit of cuddling.
One other significant improvement is the last month or so is that I only need .2 cc injections of trimix instead of 7+. That small amount gets me plenty hard for plenty long. A10cc bottle is now good for 50 sessions rather than 14. Shockwave has improved the blood flow considerably. During lovemaking I'm focused on that not on whether my erection will last. It usually stays plump quite a while after it's needed.

Just because the plumbing worked once without medication doesn't mean I'm cured. I believe that I will still need trimix. The question I now grapple with is whether there any possibility that continued treatments may actually cure my venous leak.Will I get to the point that I no longer need trimix for good? The medical literature is silent on the matter, since I've never seen a study that is carried out for such a long period of time with so many treatments. The studies do show that men need booster treatments after a while to continue to get the benefits that shockwave therapy initially gave them. At this point, I've suffered no ill effects, irritation, or anything else that would signal that I may be taking it too far, so I will continue to treat. I suppose that I'm setting myself up as a test case for whether a man with severe ED caused by a venous leak can eventually get erections without some outside support.

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Wow man, that's awesome! Really happy to see you having success. I think I am going to give it a shot.

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I HAD SEX WITHOUT ERECTION AIDS. FIRST TIME IN 16 YEARS

Congratulations!

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I HAD SEX WITHOUT ERECTION AIDS. FIRST TIME IN 16 YEARS

A little under three months and about 38 shockwave treatments later it finally happened. I was able to have sex without any kind of erection aid. It had been about 16 years since that happened. Prior to that time my love life was anything but spontaneous. While I should have been concentrating on enjoying the pleasure and connection with my wife, I was constantly wondering if whatever I had done to get an erection would work long enough to get the job done. Was I going to get there before my cock goes numb because of the ring I'd put on? Was the trimix injection well placed? Was I starting to get soft? If so, I'd have to jump of and say "Sorry Honey, just wait there a second, keep that state of arousal, don't give up on me, I've just got to run and get the penis pump, set it up, and get a ring on so I can get back to you. Hopefully you haven't got out of the mood, or fallen asleep before I can get it up again."

All this worry and my internal dialog with myself was making it hard for me to relax and let it happen. (Am I going to get there before it wears off? What if we switch positions? I hope she's not getting frustrated; we've been at it a while.) That led to many a session in which I just couldn't get there. I know guys with premature ejaculation would be envious. Sometimes it meant that my wife had multiple orgasms, which is wonderful, but she's told me that a huge part of her pleasure is being the source of mine, and sometimes I'd hump till I'd drop from exhaustion.

Viagra had stopped working a long time ago, spontaneous erections were non-existent, and morning wood was very occasional. Trimix was my last hope, but even with that, the doctor had been giving me stronger and stronger mixtures. I was up to .7cc injections and even those were wearing off before I was able to orgasm. Another thing is that each large injection is about $10 a pop, whether or not I pop or not. My wife has always been understanding and never said anything negative about me or my performance, but it sure made every lovemaking session more like an experiment in a lab to see what will work and what won't. She did comment on that.

As far as how bad my ED is, the best way to say it is that without some kind of help, it's not going to happen. That puts me on the severe end of the scale, 6/30 on the IIEF scale. The cause is a venous leak. I've got varicose veins that allow blood to flow back the wrong way, in this case out of my penis, rather than trapping it in where it is needed.

Now to the big question. What has changed compared to three months ago? Well I've tried Viagra a few times and it didn't work well enough for penetration, so that is a negative. The small positive gains have been more morning wood, and a few weak, but spontaneous erections. My penis has noticeably changed a bit also. I'm not talking about improvements in size, which were not a goal to begin with. However, there is some good evidence that the blood flow is improved. First of all, when limp is it longer than it used to be when limp. Second, when I create an erection in the vacuum pump, it used to take a lot more time and pumping to get it to full mast. It hardly takes much to draw in blood, which must mean there are more veins, or at least their capacity has been expanded. I also think I see some surface veins that didn't used to be there, but I can't be sure since I don't have before pictures.

The best thing was that last night my wife crawled into bed, found I had a night erection and woke me up to take advantage of it. It was only a #3 hardness on the scale of 0-4, but it was sufficient. I was actually surprised it lasted long enough to get 'er done. I figured as some point I'd have to get it up by artificial means to continue, but that didn't happen. A few days before I'd got a #3 stiffy from a bit of cuddling.
One other significant improvement is the last month or so is that I only need .2 cc injections of trimix instead of 7+. That small amount gets me plenty hard for plenty long. A10cc bottle is now good for 50 sessions rather than 14. Shockwave has improved the blood flow considerably. During lovemaking I'm focused on that not on whether my erection will last. It usually stays plump quite a while after it's needed.

Just because the plumbing worked once without medication doesn't mean I'm cured. I believe that I will still need trimix. The question I now grapple with is whether there any possibility that continued treatments may actually cure my venous leak.Will I get to the point that I no longer need trimix for good? The medical literature is silent on the matter, since I've never seen a study that is carried out for such a long period of time with so many treatments. The studies do show that men need booster treatments after a while to continue to get the benefits that shockwave therapy initially gave them. At this point, I've suffered no ill effects, irritation, or anything else that would signal that I may be taking it too far, so I will continue to treat. I suppose that I'm setting myself up as a test case for whether a man with severe ED caused by a venous leak can eventually get erections without some outside support.

I read page 1, jumped to page 8.. "shit shit it worked I have to go back for the details!" And read all 8 pages. Not that I have this issue or interest, but genuinely glad to read this post.

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Hey dicklimppen
Is it dangerous to do penis injection? is it possible to have fibrosis? What is your dose ?