Getting into shape.

[pencil_puller Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close pencil_puller]

I meant the discipline for nutrition is where I have problems, mostly because I have zero idea of what is good or bad

Okay. My mistake. It seems like nutrition is where you need the most help. Can you afford to see a nutritionist in your area? I couldn't afford one myself, so I spent a lot of my time reading books. I could give you some tips, but keep in mind I am not a nutritionist.

Try to get your hands on a copy of "Eat, Move and Be Healthy!" by Paul Chek. (No affiliation on my part.) A lot of good basic info in that book. Don't get too caught up in his sales pitch for his diet methods. It helps you figure out what kind of fuel to feed your body.

Foods that were bad for my body type just happen to be high on the glycemic index. I indirectly figured it out since he does not mention it in the book. Do a Google search for "What is the Glycemic Index? - For Dummies" and it will give you some basic info.

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Also keep in mind, Dontrike, that you're surrounded by certified nutritionists and personal trainers on this very site who are more than willing to help you out.
Me being one of them.

Your problem is that you don't REALLY want to change.

[Qandisa Senior Member Member of the Month March 2016 Find all posts View Profile Close Qandisa]

I find I'm most successful when I actually make use of tools like MyFitnessPal.

They've just done their list of "101 health + fitness resolutions that rock"

101 Health + Fitness Resolutions That Rock ? Hello Healthy

[Dontrike Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Dontrike]

Okay. My mistake. It seems like nutrition is where you need the most help. Can you afford to see a nutritionist in your area? I couldn't afford one myself, so I spent a lot of my time reading books. I could give you some tips, but keep in mind I am not a nutritionist.

I have looked them up, but for some reason Google only gives me results in a different state, which is odd as I know I have seen a couple places that are not all that far. Looked them up as dietician, nutritionist, and other versions of the title and wasn't getting much luck. When I see things like "weight clinic" I am not exactly sure if that is what I need, as it more sounds like those that are in dire need.

Also keep in mind, Dontrike, that you're surrounded by certified nutritionists and personal trainers on this very site who are more than willing to help you out.
Me being one of them.

Your problem is that you don't REALLY want to change.

This is most likely true. I don't believe I am worth the effort and I have no real reason to lose the weight. Then if I do lose the weight I think about it and I think "Then what?" What would I use that for?

I find I'm most successful when I actually make use of tools like MyFitnessPal.

They've just done their list of "101 health + fitness resolutions that rock"

101 Health + Fitness Resolutions That Rock ? Hello Healthy

I shall try and give that a look by tomorrow.

[Toadstool Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Toadstool]

This is most likely true. I don't believe I am worth the effort and I have no real reason to lose the weight. Then if I do lose the weight I think about it and I think "Then what?" What would I use that for?

Believe me, I can tell. And have been able to for some time. This is a much deeper issue.

I hope you're able to look at that and explore deeper into it.

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Right now I am more content with understanding I have these problems and living with them. It has been easier lately than trying to constantly think of new ways to beat them. I know that solution won't work forever, but I think I have found a nice place to relax with them. It is kind of like sitting on a porch and seeing that dead tree you need to take off your property, right now it isn't hurting anything, but you know it will have to come down at some point, either in a controlled manor or it will topple down and take down some electrical wires.

If I had to choose one to focus on first though is coming up with a reason to lose weight, maybe coming up with a "then what?" type of reason as well.

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I see. So you have a mess on your front yard and you think, "ehhh, I'll get to it later." That later might come tomorrow, next month, or in a few years, but unless you can figure out a good reason to clean up your yard, it's gonna stay a total mess.

So, why exercise at all? Why don't you just quit? It's like you take time each and every day to go up and pick up debris of that fallen tree, with no real intention to get rid of the tree that causes the debris in the first place.

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Most people spend more time and energy going around problems than in trying to solve them.

Henry Ford



When everything seems to be going against you...
Remember that the airplane takes off against the wind, not with it.

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Life is either a daring adventure,
Or it is nothing at all.

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Right now I am more content with understanding I have these problems and living with them. It has been easier lately than trying to constantly think of new ways to beat them. I know that solution won't work forever, but I think I have found a nice place to relax with them. It is kind of like sitting on a porch and seeing that dead tree you need to take off your property, right now it isn't hurting anything, but you know it will have to come down at some point, either in a controlled manor or it will topple down and take down some electrical wires.

If I had to choose one to focus on first though is coming up with a reason to lose weight, maybe coming up with a "then what?" type of reason as well.

I am pretty sure you need to explore the idea that you are not worth losing weight for your self. You definitely need to love your self. I Dont know all your circumstances, but I do know saying that and feeling that leads to nothing good for you.
You are special, and wonderful. If to no one else then to me. As a member of this Gym I value you highly. If you find 1/10 of the value in yourself that I find in you then by God it will be worth doing good things for yourself. YOU ARE WONDERFUL.

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I am pretty sure you need to explore the idea that you are not worth losing weight for your self.

You can replace "lose weight" with anything you might want in life and encounter the exact same block. Losing weight, moving out on your own, finding a fantastic relationship, making new friends, going into business for yourself, cutting off certain ties to people, managing staff....

If you can't see that you are worth it, and deserve it, then you'll never move forward. I'd advocate you take the time you use to exercise and work on your own personal development, if for no other reason than to explore new perspectives and try them on for a time.

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I see. So you have a mess on your front yard and you think, "ehhh, I'll get to it later." That later might come tomorrow, next month, or in a few years, but unless you can figure out a good reason to clean up your yard, it's gonna stay a total mess.

Guess I could have been more clear with that metaphor. I more meant that the tree is all that is left of it, so all you have is just a tower of wood. On the outside it looks okay-ish, but you know that on the inside.....who knows. Sure bark can fall off, but for the most part there isn't as much mess, but more something sitting there reminding you.

To be more precise about me being okay with the current depression and negativity it isn't exactly "I will get to it later", but that after many attempts to fix that have not gone right, feeling worse for not succeeding, and worrying about how to come up with ways to "fix" me it has been a breathe of fresh air to think of it differently and accept it like how one would deal with lactose intolerance. Sure you could look at it like me not wanting to get better, but I think this is a bigger step in fixing it.

I know at some point it will probably bite me in the ass, but I am certainly a lot happier now than when I was trying to fix it. For now I think it is what I need, but I will agree that it can't stay like that forever, probably not even for too long.

So, why exercise at all? Why don't you just quit? It's like you take time each and every day to go up and pick up debris of that fallen tree, with no real intention to get rid of the tree that causes the debris in the first place.

In the past 3 times I have done the whole work out thing the reasons for doing them was.

1. Started to do a 45 mile bike ride for my own sanity. Stopped because my girlfriend broke up with me, which is who I was doing it for.

2. Started again to get her back, didn't work out that way, soon I had a mental breakdown and tried to kill myself. (The break up was part of why I was going to.)

3. Started just to do it really. Stopped because I got hit by a car this past July.

The first two times I had external sources, although the 1st one was more of a mix. The 3rd one though I didn't really have a goal, sure losing weight was part of it, but I didn't have much of a finish line planned out nor a reason past "just so people don't think I am doing absolutely nothing". Now I am not sure why I didn't quit with the 3rd one, perhaps nothing major happened in my life to put me down or it became so much of a habit that I didn't think about it anymore. Not sure.

Without making this response too long. I think I have always wanted to be that me that I always imagine me being. No matter what I always envision me just being skinny and I must remind myself that reality is about 150 pounds off, but then I have to ask "If I am not going to use it, why get it?" What would I use being skinny for?

I am pretty sure you need to explore the idea that you are not worth losing weight for your self. You definitely need to love your self.

Thank you for the kind words.

I have tried a few times to look into these things. I did seem to have some success back in 2013, but the person I was seeing stopped practicing to go back to school and I followed with trying pills, but it didn't really work for me, at least it didn't feel like it, after about two months, plus I am not a fan of those types of pills.

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Found out that a new gym opened up about a mile from me, so once winter ends I think I might join it even if I don't entirely like how Planet Fitness is run.

In injury news my shoulder rarely hurts anymore and my knee is slightly better, but it is still annoying on occasion.

[Jaw Breaker Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Jaw Breaker]

Found out that a new gym opened up about a mile from me, so once winter ends I think I might join it even if I don't entirely like how Planet Fitness is run.

Planet Fitness is a garbage gym. Their DBs go up to 65-75 depending on the gym, the one near me you're not allowed to bench more than 100, there's pretty much only machines, no squat racks, and you're not allowed to grunt or exhale loudly or someone sets off the "lunk alarm"...

The CEO himself said he banks on people NOT going to the gym ... because it's so cheap, people are less likely to cancel their memberships even if they're not going. Just the idea of having one keeps them paying. They have pizza days and bagel days ... they have tootsie rolls on the front counter ... and they banned personal trainers several years ago. In fact, if you get caught training someone one on one, they'll ask you to leave.

I wouldn't support that company based on principal. They claim to be a "judgement free" zone and yet they judge anyone that's even remotely close to reaching ... or have reached their goals.

However, I must say ... they have an ungodly amount of treadmills ... so if running is your thing, it's perfect. I can't, in good faith, support them with my wallet, though.

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I have certainly heard a lot of not so great things about Planet Fitness as well, but I figure they may have plenty of stationary bikes, which would allow me to train for any cycling I want to do.

Gyms are usually a huge scam, pretty easy to make money when over half of your costumers just give you money without wanting anything in return.