fear from penile scarring after jelqing, please help

[Big Al AdministratorPEGym EditorMale Enhancement Coach Rep.PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Big Al]

...My uro also told me kegels do not reverse venous leackage, it's just a fairytale.

I don't get you...you complained of your previous docs' incompetence, but on this issue you agree with him?

BTW: https://www.pegym.com/forums/erectile-dysfunction-forum/14341-medical-study-kegels-vs-ed-venous-leaks.html and https://www.pegym.com/articles/kegel-exercise-studies
and https://www.pegym.com/articles/kegel-exercise-studies

[Big Al AdministratorPEGym EditorMale Enhancement Coach Rep.PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Big Al]

...and then it’s often too late, as they search for this when they already have a problem, just like me.

You claim to not be blaming PE for your issues, but here you are again blaming PE- even when you claimed issues prior to jelqing. Either you're quite forgetful or you have other reasons for maligning PE exercises.

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Pete28,
I agree with much of your reasoning but not with your conclusions.
PE, like any exercise program, involves risk. That risk should be evaluated evenly when one is considering embarking on a PE program. PE offers wonderful opportunities for improving quality of life if approached correctly. And, in this case, correctly is not at all difficult. (As opposed to say, cliff diving.) The risks posed by PE to a mature, well informed, rational, prudent man are, I believe, very minimal.
If approached carelessly and in ignorance, the risks grow quickly (but are still much better than the risks posed by taking the same approach to cliff diving.)
In this way, PE is very similar to yoga: good for you and very low risk, if approached with maturity and attention. But, like any exercise program, you can hurt yourself very badly by being imprudent with yoga (or PE.)

Well said

[NP97 Retired ModeratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close NP97]

Why do you keep saying that because of the VL you can no longer get an erection? That is not what VL is. Kegels should help... I mean, maybe actually try them for an extended period of time (and reverse kegels)...

[UKGuy Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close UKGuy]

Pete28 and other people in the same boat I wish you luck and hope things get better for you in some way. I don't know what to say anymore or what to do anymore. I have pretty much accepted I am impotent no amount of positive thinking or Viagra will help with my ED this is real longterm impotence and penile damage. I mean I have been like this for years now years and I would even say my ED has gradually been getting worse. I rarely ever get random erections anymore or feel horny much and morning erections are not common and they are weak you don't get anxiety while sleeping so this is not really a mental issue at the root but more undoutably a physical dysfunction. I have looked into ED "cures" for a longtime now and options are limited basically it's take Viagra, use a pump to get a hard on (like that won't turn a woman off) or get a penile implant and I can't think of anything more depressing than having a fake penis what is worse is in most cases men who get penile implants loose a good few inches in length and girth. I see only two options either you pursue women and tell them about your ED and expect a lot of rejection because you are impotent and can't perform (let's face it rejection is expected when a man is impotent) or you continue to stay single, enjoy life and your hobbies, I have been alone most of my life (single) and my last "girlfriend" was 8 years ago so I am used to/comfortable/content to be without a woman. Luckiyl I have a personality who is happy to be alone and fine with their own company. Alright sex isn't everything but let's be real here the main point men and women get to together is for one reason (to have sex) so you can understand why pursuing women is pointless for a man who is impotent.

I wish things would get better but unfortunately I don't see things getting better in terms of my ED I even told my father that If you wonder why I am never with women or have a girlfriend it's because I am impotent whether he believes it or not I can't say but I was real with him. I am not sure if I will be back on the forums I just feel like I am secretly waiting for a ED "cure" to arise and I have to get real and face the fact that I am impotent and my ED is likely due to penile damage and it will NEVER be healed or back the way it was before.

Anyway this is a great forum most here really want to help others and I appreciate the help and advice from members on the forum. I wish you all luck.

[flex Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close flex]

UKGuy, what exactly do you think your problem is, and what do you think caused it? Have you been completely checked out by a urologist specializing in ED? If so what was the diagnosis, and if not, why?

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Pete28 and other people in the same boat I wish you luck and hope things get better for you in some way...

Some of your previous posts didn't relay this severity, so I'm surprised to read this from you. Do you truly feel as if you've exhausted all options? From what I've read in your posts, there seems to still be a lot of doubt about what is actually ailing you.

Surely there has to be some way of getting clear answers as to what's causing your issues, and from there, the solution will present itself. I can understand the difficulties you may be facing, but giving up without exhausting every possible option shouldn't be an answer

[Pirate Retired AdministratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Pirate]

Pete28 and other people in the same boat I wish you luck and hope things get better for you in some way. I don't know what to say anymore or what to do anymore. I have pretty much accepted I am impotent no amount of positive thinking or Viagra will help with my ED this is real longterm impotence and penile damage. I mean I have been like this for years now years and I would even say my ED has gradually been getting worse. I rarely ever get random erections anymore or feel horny much and morning erections are not common and they are weak you don't get anxiety while sleeping so this is not really a mental issue at the root but more undoutably a physical dysfunction. I have looked into ED "cures" for a longtime now and options are limited basically it's take Viagra, use a pump to get a hard on (like that won't turn a woman off) or get a penile implant and I can't think of anything more depressing than having a fake penis what is worse is in most cases men who get penile implants loose a good few inches in length and girth. I see only two options either you pursue women and tell them about your ED and expect a lot of rejection because you are impotent and can't perform (let's face it rejection is expected when a man is impotent) or you continue to stay single, enjoy life and your hobbies, I have been alone most of my life (single) and my last "girlfriend" was 8 years ago so I am used to/comfortable/content to be without a woman. Luckiyl I have a personality who is happy to be alone and fine with their own company. Alright sex isn't everything but let's be real here the main point men and women get to together is for one reason (to have sex) so you can understand why pursuing women is pointless for a man who is impotent.

I wish things would get better but unfortunately I don't see things getting better in terms of my ED I even told my father that If you wonder why I am never with women or have a girlfriend it's because I am impotent whether he believes it or not I can't say but I was real with him. I am not sure if I will be back on the forums I just feel like I am secretly waiting for a ED "cure" to arise and I have to get real and face the fact that I am impotent and my ED is likely due to penile damage and it will NEVER be healed or back the way it was before.

Anyway this is a great forum most here really want to help others and I appreciate the help and advice from members on the forum. I wish you all luck.

You sound so despairing. I hope your situation is not getting you so down as all that.
Stay with us, UKGuy. There is hope.

[kingpole Retired ModeratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close kingpole]

I think somebody needs to visit a good urologist.

[adaption Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close adaption]

Jelqing over scar

So I started Jelqing about 5 years ago... It was wonderful and I felt like the man... then I also had a catastrophic penile injury (probably from pushing myself a little too hard with squeezes) about 2 years into the program after healthy gains (I followed Big Al's newbie routine back in the day and used the old school extender.... which destroyed some of the circulation to the tip of my penis and the company never responded to my emails after they released a newer model... it was size genetics. Too bad I couldn't find them on the Better Business Bureau haha)

ANYWAY.... I went to a urologist to get a penile doppler and sure enough... there was a small line of penile scarring along what appeared to be my corpus spongiosm (about lower mid penis). The doctor, who never heard of PE, said I would be okay... but obviously had no expertise in the exercise or could make a valid call on whether or not I could start again (nor could 3 other urologists that I saw). I've been trying to work through it and I've completely left my penis alone (minimized masturbation as much as possible and kegaled also).. I've lost most of my gains, but my nocturnal erections have come back and I've been seeing slightly improved circulation after MONTHS of waiting.

My question would be... when would it be a good idea to start jelqing again? Obviously, I would go completely light... but I feel as if the scarring is permanent despite how much scar removing lotion I rub into my penis and how long I wait. Is it possible to jelq over a scar? Has anyone experienced this phenomena?

I am just worried I will be left behind as more and more people discover jelqing and now that jelqing is taught better and safer... it really sucks being one of the pioneers to this exercise. This post is addressed to Big Al especially since I have quietly been a loyal follower... even loyal enough to try and join his private consulting services until I was shooed away by a sales rep when I mentioned my injury (who told me that I could come back when I was ready to start the program... ready.... when??? how?????)

Sorry for rambling on... but Pete... I'm not going to bash you... and for the others... PE is wonderful and does work... its unfortunate that some have been injured during the process. But please... they don't need to be told to shut up as it is a realistic side effect to the exercise and they probably feel devastated already.

All the best,

Adaption

PS - if anyone knows of an accredited urologists who is FAMILIAR to PE and can actually help and provide quality advice... I would really appreciate the contact. I reside in NYC, so someone in the greater northeast area is preferred.

[Big Al AdministratorPEGym EditorMale Enhancement Coach Rep.PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Big Al]

So I started Jelqing about 5 years ago...

Jelqing a penis with scar tissue may just make things worse. I would recommend waiting until you're as healed as you can get before jelqing or trying any other form of "enlargement" exercise. You can try this exercise to see if it helps. Some men have reported a breakup of scar tissue and a reversal of Peyronie's using it. In the meanwhile, you should be able to do all forms of stamina work (provided it doesn't cause any pain or unusual discomfort), and combined with the exercise I gave you it just may speed your healing.

Regarding your experience with mecoach, I would appreciate it if you could forward to me via PM what you were told by the rep. We help men of all kinds- even those with injuries. Is it possible that you were told to avoid enlargement (as opposed to stamina work or therapeutic exercises) work for now?

[UKGuy Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close UKGuy]

I apologize for my previous post It wasn't meant to come off as suicidal! I don't think I would or could kill myself over this issue. I won't lie though having a weaker erection which I can't really hold normally has hurt my confidence with women. I rarely show strong interest in women because well I can't give a woman what she wants, it's embarrasing when I can't even get a solid erection and hold it most of the time jerking off. For a long I fooled myself into believing "It's all in my head" yet I wake up with a weaker erection that dies as soon as I touch my penis or get up. Those really rock hard raging erections I rarely ever get them anymore. The fact that me or others continuely wake up with a weaker erection in the morning is a undeniable indication that the impotence is a physical cause.

By the way I did see the doctor a few times I think he thinks I am niave ( I should of kept quiet about being a virgin) he did basic blood tests, which all came back normal the uroligist said no tests were needed but I disagree. I think because I said I never had sex they thought the ED must be mental (nerves or whatever) but you don't get nervous masturbating alone.

I seem to fall back into being insecure about my penis at times (I am 5 inches erect or just over) I don't like my penis size much but it's worse now because not only I am on the smaller side but I can't even get a normal throbbing erection and hold it.

Sorry I am not here to complain but people in this situation will know how frustrating and (sometimes) depressing this is. I want to get more proper tests done for ED but my doctor seems to feel I have no problem. I only see two real ways to fix this condition. One a penile implant which I don't think I would have in a million years maybe if I was in my 50's or 60's but at 25? I can't do it. What's worse is if you aren't very big in size to start off with you will loose some size getting an implant so that means a even smaller penis size. The other option is (controversial) and dodgy is to get surgery done which has very mixed results and doctors in most countries won't carry out this sort of surgery.

[Pirate Retired AdministratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Pirate]

UKGuy,
How about finding a different doctor and getting another opinion?
-Pirate

[Big Al AdministratorPEGym EditorMale Enhancement Coach Rep.PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Big Al]

I apologize for my previous post...

See if you can have a cavernosogram done. You can also look into getting the "stamp test" done to see how your penis responds during the night.

You appear to be in much psychological distress over this issue, and your statement about your penis deflating at the slightest touch further and that your problems are getting progressively worse (instead of it having happened all at once, as would occur with some kind of injury) reinforces the possibility that your issues are probably psychological in origin. The only other thing that I could think of that would be causing a gradual loss of your potency would be a hormonal decline, but a blood test would have caught that.

By getting the above tests done, you'll be able to determine whether or not you actually have any physical origins to your problems. That would give you a lot more peace of mind and you'll be able to focus on the psychological aspect of what's causing your problems.

[Pirate Retired AdministratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Pirate]

Good luck, UKGuy. Please keep us in the loop.