The Sperm. The Man. The Life.

[SunGiver Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close SunGiver]

Listen child, do not go putting words into other people's mouths. YOU said homosexuality is a condition. I specifically said that it is NOT a condition. It's not medical/physical disablity. It's not something that's wrong with them. And it's not a choice. It's their natural state of being.

You didn't address the fact that homosexual behaviour exists in many other animal species. Are you suggesting that homosexuality in animals is their choice as well? Do they have the same kind of higher though processes and free will that humans do?

The problem with not complicating things is that life IS complicated. It is enormously, beautifully, intricate and complex. You can only simplify it by ignoring elements of it. And when you choose to ignore things, then you become ignorant.

Listen...someone said being homosexual was a condition. Maybe it wasnt you. Idk. Im sure if u go back u can find it if it hasnt been edited out.

In our natural form, we procreate...and grow as a species... Thats how nature works... Men have the plugs...women have the sockets... They go together to create life and help it grow. Without that, life ends. THAT IS MY POINT. SIMPLE. NOT COMPLICATED

Ive seen "bisexual" animals in nature. Never an animal that completely goes agaisnt sexual relations with an opposite gender. Like the "homosexuality" we see in humans.

In my eyes life is simple, life is about growth. If it doesnt grow its not in line with life. I understand other people think differently and thats ok. To be on your side a bit Ill say i could see humans as being complicated... But through looking at life, the reason why we are so "complicated" is still simple. If i do find something to be "complicated" then after further research and understanding, no matter how enormous or beautiful it, i find out that in truth it is simple...and that i just had the wrong perspective.

I dont ignore any area of life. I look at all life as a whole to come to my conclusions. And simply all life grows and procreates. For humans and most other life to grow and continue.... Naturally...Male and females must be together. Simple.

Again these are just my opinions.

[SunGiver Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close SunGiver]

"Natural" has no more moral or ethical weight than "Up" and "Down". It's a way too common mistake to assume it means anything more than "has arisen without human hands getting involved."

Sungiver, read "Guns, Germs, and Steel" by J. Diamond.

I think if you over-simplify a theory such that it can no longer explain the evidence... you have just deluded yourself into bunk-ville.

Fun note: on average, when two bonobos meet... they are more likely to have sex than to fight. "Hey everybody, I've got some nice bonobo dick here! Who wants to suck it? Hey, you there. You got lips. I'm just saying."

Lol. I like the way u said that.

The point im making is that life procreates. To be homosexual is to end the procreation cycle.

Ofcourse men can play dick swords and women can play pussy smushy. We can do what we want. Play, experience, all the all. But as far as natural, as in the natural cycles of life, and the way things natural flow... male and female are together...lol i cant believe i have to say this so much.

I understand what you bros are saying
"Man monkeys sex with other man monkeys so that makes it natural". Im not meaning natural in that way, anything and everything is natural in that regard...im meaning natural as in it flows and creates together. Giving back to nature or the Earth. Growing...

[SunGiver Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close SunGiver]

Spending all day arguing in an online forum is not natural.

Truth. These are strange times. Damn near anything is completely natural anymore.

Id prefer to call this an educational debate. Which brings growth, which is natural.

[TheGreatDivider Senior Member Member of the Month Dec 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close TheGreatDivider]

You know who else worshiped the sun, ate a plant based diet, and believed homosexuality wasn't natural?

Need a hint? Here's a quote, "If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed."

[SunGiver Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close SunGiver]

You know who else worshiped the sun, ate a plant based diet, and believed homosexuality wasn't natural?

Need a hint? Here's a quote, "If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed."

My bro.
I dont worship the sun..i just acknowledge that it gives us life in simply every way... It definently get my attention and focus.

Plant based diets are healthy and support that life.

Homosexuality does not help the life continue. It ends the cycle of life.

Am i the only one who agrees with these simple truths. How did we get stuck on this.

[SunGiver Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close SunGiver]

You know who else worshiped the sun, ate a plant based diet, and believed homosexuality wasn't natural?

Need a hint? Here's a quote, "If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed."

But where did the quote come from. And ill add that a lie can only sway you if u dont kno the truth.

[TheGreatDivider Senior Member Member of the Month Dec 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close TheGreatDivider]

My bro.
I dont worship the sun..i just acknowledge that it gives us life in simply every way... It definently get my attention and focus.

Plant based diets are healthy and support that life.

Homosexuality does not help the life continue. It ends the cycle of life.

Am i the only one who agrees with these simple truths. How did we get stuck on this.

You're not even trying to guess.


I would give you a clue but I don't want to break Godfrey's Law.

[TheGreatDivider Senior Member Member of the Month Dec 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close TheGreatDivider]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKAW96N-Vms

[SunGiver Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close SunGiver]

You're not even trying to guess.


I would give you a clue but I don't want to break Godfrey's Law.

Alister Crowley

[TheGreatDivider Senior Member Member of the Month Dec 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close TheGreatDivider]

Alister Crowley

Nope

[SunGiver Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close SunGiver]

Nope

Well Crowley did say that. He may have even said it before hitler but idk. 👍

[TheGreatDivider Senior Member Member of the Month Dec 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close TheGreatDivider]

Well Crowley did say that. He may have even said it before hitler but idk. 

Well which one is it?


I gave you three clues, one of which you could have googled and it would have been the first result. All three clues point to the same answer.

[closed260 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close closed260]

Actually SunGiver, it's a sad fact of human cognition that even if one knows the "truth", a statement repeated frequently enough will confuse a person into not remembering where that statement came from (i.e. an unreputable source). Advertisers use this method on TV: repeatedly bombard the viewer with the same ad until a weak emotional association of "good-ness" is formed.

They hope, just before deciding on a purchase, you'll be operating on the easier and faster emotional thinking, rather than the more tedious form of logical thinking, where a weak association can be enough to hold sway.

[CUSP82 Administrator Admin of the Month Dec 2014PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close CUSP82]

Why is it the sperm, giver of life? What's wrong with the egg? Especially on a roll with bacon and cheese.

[jockinthebox Retired Moderator Member of the Month May 2015PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close jockinthebox]

Why is it the sperm, giver of life? What's wrong with the egg? Especially on a roll with bacon and cheese.

Can I get a side of hashbrowns with that, CUSP?