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What Are Your Thoughts on Visiting a Prostitute?
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There are SO Many Available Women . . . WHY?
Just My Humble Opinion!
“The world will not be destroyed by those who do evil, but by those who watch them without doing anything” Albert Einstein
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So I noticed a post with someone asking some questions about getting with a prostitute in the red light district. I figured I would give my experience since it seems there aren't many of these posts. Obviously, this will have some NSFW language and some explicit content. Just to get things out there I was with a female friend and we both wanted a threesome experience with another woman.
TLDR: Got a prostitute in De Wallen and had a threesome with my lady friend. Price was 300 euros for 40 minutes (probably over paid). Was fun but a little too clincal for me. Def, feel like my friend had the better experience. Probably will not do it again unless under certain circumstances.
First a little bit about myself. I'm an expat that's lived in Amsterdam for awhile, male and in my 30's with a good job. I've never in my life visited a prostitute. I do well on Tinder and in bars/clubs so just never felt the need to see or experience one. I've been down the RLD in center many times and even strolled past the windows in De Pijp. Always having a little laugh at the people I see going in or coming out. I especially like taking my friends who come to visit to the RLD in De Wallen and see if we can't overhear the hilarious bargaining of the party animals trying to negotiate a deal outside.
So one day a lady friend comes to visit. She's never been here and we have an on again off again sexual relationship. I tell her we're gonna have a fun time etc.. I've gotten some pills (ecstasy) for us and tell her at some point we'll see RLD at night. So we take our pills and do what most couples do, end up at the flat hugging each other for dear life in between awesome sex and random dancing.
During this, she starts asking about if I've been sleeping with people since we had last slept with each other (we had seen each other about two months ago). I tell her yes and she starts telling me how that's a big turn on and how she would love to watch me fuck someone else. I tell her that I've always wanted a threesome with two girls and she asks if I know any women here who would partake as she's totally into that. Well, dear readers, it's sad to say I do not and it's not something I ever seriously tried to broker anyways as it's always just been a fantasy for me and nothing more. So, I make a half joke about how we could just go to the RLD and pay for a girl. She says she would love to do that. However, that night we ended up just staying in the flat and not going out. I wasn't sure if it was just drugs talking or what but I didn't take it seriously.
Flash forward the next night and I tell her we'll go down to the RLD so she can have a look. Well, we look and she starts getting frisky at which point she tells me she wants to get a girl that we can both play with. So I give the obligatory "yes ma'am" and off we go to look. We both realize my standards are a little lower but we find a hot woman that fits our style. Sadly a guy was talking to her at the door and just our luck he decides to go for it with his mate cheering him on. So we continue to look and find a petite brunette with nice tits and brown skin. She almost had a gymnast look to her. We signal to her and she points us to the door to meet with her. I can't remember her name but it was something like Jessica so we'll go with that.
Here is where I wish I had researched this a little more. I ask for her rates. 50 euros per person for the first 20 minutes. I make decent money so that doesn't sound bad. She tries to talk us into paying for an hour but to be honest, I wasn't sure if I could last a whole hour and while my friend wanted to also have some fun with Jessica her main point of getting off was to watch me. Jessica tells us blowjobs and hand stuff is with a condom. She doesn't have any female condoms (dental dam?) so she also can't go down on my friend. So I tell her we'll get started and see where we go from there.
We get to her room which would best be described as a room you would typically see at a production house (tv and film) where they put your make up on. Basically just an oversized closet or storage room. It's just big enough for a small desk and a very cheap small bed. You could just barely fit three people on it. I will say this, the lighting does make everyone look better which is a plus.
We then get down to business and the time pretty much flies. My girl is really getting into with Jessica and Jessica is trying to make her orgasm while my girl is going down on me. At this point, 15 minutes have passed so we have five minutes. My girl then whispers in my ear she wants to see me fuck Jessica. Now again I hadn't done any research so I say we want to pay for another 20 minutes for actual sex. She then says that's an extra 100 euros for me plus the 50 for the additional minutes. At this point, I have my girl who and my extremely influential body part just telling me to go for it. So I fork over the money. In hindsight I should have negotiated all this up front...but hindsight is always 20/20.
Now I have to say, Jessica was an expert that's for sure. She was also accommodating to how we wanted to interact as well. I'll spare you the gritty details. I have nothing bad to say about what she could do in the bedroom. Thankfully I had partied the night before so while I had a lot of drinks I wasn't drunk remembering a story before i hired a girl from Los angeles escortsbut I was buzzed enough that it wasn't over right away. In fact, this is where it got a little too clinical for me as I could kind of tell she was just trying to get me off as fast as possible (fair enough that's just business) but she kept asking if I had finished. This as after she told me to tell her if I finished. Could have been she just assumed I may be drunk but it still just kind of ruined the mood a little for me.
Eventually, I finish and we have around 10 minutes left. Jessica tells us we can use the room for another 10 minutes to do whatever we want which was nice. She comes back and we get dressed. She then asks us some kind of small talk questions and seemed to let her guard down a little bit. She also made out with my friend a little more which was good for my friend. I must say it was pretty obvious she was way more into my friend than me which makes sense as they probably don't get many couples in...or I assume they don't.
Now for either the really fun or embarrassing part. We had to walk back out into the crowd. Of course, as soon as we walk out some guys are standing outside and begin cheering me. Well, my girl was giving Jessica one last kiss so when she finally walks out they just go crazy. One guy actually yells, "Which one do you suggest mate"? To which I replied, "the tiny one". He then screams, "that's who I was going to pick" and the whole group cracks up. We both thought it was pretty funny so we gave them a thumbs up and made our way up the street and off into the crowds to become just another couple walking around.
All and all it was a fun experience. Obviously not going to be for everyone. I don't think I'll ever do it solo but I can at least say I've done it.
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Amsterdam is famous for pros and drugs these many years .
With so much competition you would think they would be better.
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Sorry, half of the fun of a relationship is the "hunt", the anticipation, and the thrill of victory. If that sensation could be had by parting with my hard earned money then why bother. To me, seeking prostitution is a way of admitting to yourself that you are not worthy of winning someones affection. Instant gratification is the trend, variety is also a trend, but none of these will compare to the thrill of winning a woman's affection, getting into her head, having her want you for you and the total experience of a true relationship. Try it sometime, it is really satisfying.
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To be fair you give up hard earned money during that "hunt" for a relationship too. They both hold that gratification, but one usually takes far longer, unless the 1st date you can get that gratification with just a $50 dinner. Then technically the "hunt" turned out to be cheaper. On the other end the "hunt" takes far longer and is more expensive and you might end up with less gratification than compared to a prostitute.Originally posted by TheZZMan View PostSorry, half of the fun of a relationship is the "hunt", the anticipation, and the thrill of victory. If that sensation could be had by parting with my hard earned money then why bother.
If I admit it outside of seeking prostitution, like I do any other day of the week, does that mean I can go to a prostitute and therefore it wouldn't be admitting I'm not worthy? If so then I'll take it.To me, seeking prostitution is a way of admitting to yourself that you are not worthy of winning someones affection.
It's only satisfying when it's successful though. For many they have to go through a lot of "hunts" and eventually a prostitute just because far easier than going through yet another failed "hunt" and doing it all over again.Instant gratification is the trend, variety is also a trend, but none of these will compare to the thrill of winning a woman's affection, getting into her head, having her want you for you and the total experience of a true relationship. Try it sometime, it is really satisfying.
I'm sure many can account for those "hunts" being far worse experience than just getting a hooker, or a plain good clarity wank, would have been. At least with a prostitute you know when this "relationship" will end rather than finding out that the one you were with hurt you in ways that won't heal for months or years.
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Are we in the 21st century - Most of the women I know make their own money and don't need yours. While dating she spends money on you too. If your worried about spending money on a date then get creative about what you are doing together. The purpose of a date is to get to know each other to see if you are compatible, not to get laid. If you are going out on dates for the sole purpose of getting F*cked, then by all means get a prostitute. Just remember all decisions have consequences.Originally posted by Dontrike View PostTo be fair you give up hard earned money during that "hunt" for a relationship too. They both hold that gratification, but one usually takes far longer, unless the 1st date you can get that gratification with just a $50 dinner. Then technically the "hunt" turned out to be cheaper. On the other end the "hunt" takes far longer and is more expensive and you might end up with less gratification than compared to a prostitute.
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Originally posted by Dontrike View PostIt certainly is. A very high stigma for those that do sexual work and those that buy it. Buying sex is quite some time in jail and many other complications.
I can see their point, some sex workers are forced into the life, and it could be abused, although I think if the whole "industry" had some laws to it to make it like any other job it could work in favor of the country.
You get put in jail for buying sex in the US? I thought they punished the seller and not the buyer? Do they punish both? If you get busted and get jail time, will it then appear on your criminal record?
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It is not illegal everywhere in the US and in some areas in the US where it is illegal, they have started arresting the buyer instead of the seller and it has really cut down on the trade as sellers can deal with the exposure but buyers can't.Originally posted by Kent09 View PostYou get put in jail for buying sex in the US? I thought they punished the seller and not the buyer? Do they punish both? If you get busted and get jail time, will it then appear on your criminal record?
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DT your missing out on something, yes it does cost money, but its not a transaction, there is the hunt, there is the wooing, there is the enjoyment of seeing the same women again and again, till you bed her, but not just the once but many times, till all being well you marry.
You wont get that with a hooker, with her its wam bam thank you sir and off then to the nearest sexual heath/gum clinic for tests, yes a great way to get laid and end up with something you cant get rid of, and possibly no sex for the rest of your life.
Money well spent, does that make think its worth it.
NOWHARD
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And that's not the case for women I've known. It's the usual man pays for everything.Originally posted by TheZZWoman View PostAre we in the 21st century - Most of the women I know make their own money and don't need yours.
Not in my experiences. In my relationships I spend easily $500+, for how brief they were, and as for the women their total comes to $0.While dating she spends money on you too.
If I'm going on dates I'm assuredly getting fucked, and not in the good way.If you are going out on dates for the sole purpose of getting F*cked, then by all means get a prostitute.
Normal dates and relationships have consequences too.Just remember all decisions have consequences.
Why exactly am I missing out? From what I've experienced in my few relationships and from those I've seen it's far more irritating than it really should be, especially when it comes to costs, eventual hatred, and being the secret no one wants others to know about.Originally posted by NOWHARD View PostDT your missing out on something, yes it does cost money, but its not a transaction, there is the hunt, there is the wooing, there is the enjoyment of seeing the same women again and again, till you bed her, but not just the once but many times, till all being well you marry.
That's not true, you can see the same hooker again and again. Dating multiple women can also lead to what you described with hookers, the same diseases, tests, and no sex from diseases (or marriage).You wont get that with a hooker, with her its wam bam thank you sir and off then to the nearest sexual heath/gum clinic for tests, yes a great way to get laid and end up with something you cant get rid of, and possibly no sex for the rest of your life.
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Don't you ever get tired of feeling sorry for yourself and so constantly negative???!!!The name's Tamora...TVR Tamora...with a capital "T".
Lots of living to do yet unseen and a more stories yet untold!
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DT so your saying its all shit then, then I feel sorry for you and your thinking, your missing on the whole point of what I said, its the chase and the corralling of a women of your choice, so what you paying out as you say, but I have never put a price on love like you seem to do, its for life and me its been 47 years, so how many hookers would you have in that time?
What your saying just does not work that way, as there is no price for true love.
NOWHARD
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