Coronavirus- What's happening near you?

[Party Senior Member Member of the Month August 2016 Find all posts View Profile Close Party]

As mentioned in an earlier post, my 65 yo sister-in-law was admitted to (not dumped) a nursing home because she suffers with MS and is incapable of going to the bathroom without special equipment.

We received notice today that one of the other patients has tested positive for Covid-19.

Well, crap. Prayers for her of course. My father and his wife are in an assisted living retirement village. They are both fine and have a fairly active life still at 81. No visitors allowed, no Covid yet. I advised him to get the hell out of there before it happens. He lives close to a large college, there are thousands of furnished apartments for sublet, literary a $100 a month.

[Johnny D ModeratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Johnny D]

Somehow I don't think any country can afford to spend trillion just to address the actual issue. Seems them damn issues keep popping up every couple of years.

Nor can we afford to spend trillions to bail people out of the predicament they've been put in by the knee-jerk-save-a-life-at-all-costs response.

Besides... Addressing the actual issues wouldn't cost anywhere near that, anyway, and plenty that won't cost a thing. Let's start with eliminating regulations that prevent hospitals from adding beds as they see fit. And that's only scratching the surface. If "flattening the curve" is about keeping the healthcare system from being impacted, the issues are those things that prevent the entire healthcare system and industry from being able to respond to a crisis in the first place.

[madyogi Moderator Member of the Month April 2020PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close madyogi]

Nor can we afford to spend trillions to bail people out of the predicament they've been put in by the knee-jerk-save-a-life-at-all-costs response.

Besides... Addressing the actual issues wouldn't cost anywhere near that, anyway, and plenty that won't cost a thing. Let's start with eliminating regulations that prevent hospitals from adding beds as they see fit. And that's only scratching the surface. If "flattening the curve" is about keeping the healthcare system from being impacted, the issues are those things that prevent the entire healthcare system and industry from being able to respond to a crisis in the first place.

I really don't care enough to get into an extended back and forth on this, but as usual I will say the "answer" is more nuanced than either side would like to admit. You are correct that regulations have impacted business decisions, but so does the profit motive inherent in our system. The incentives are not there to increase capacity "just in case". Rather, the incentives are there to improve profit margins. Again, I'm not arguing you are necessarily right or wrong, just saying the situation is not really one or the other as you seem to be implying by saying "the issues are those things that prevent the entire healthcare system and industry from being able to respond to a crisis in the first place." I could be wrong, but you seem to imply "those things" are government regulations full stop, or at least largely. I would argue that's one piece, and I certainly wouldn't want to see all regulation eliminated under the assumption that private industry is just magically going to do all the right things on its own to get prepared and have the public's best interest in mind ... Of course, I don't expect gov't to do that across the board either. I'm just willing to accept the fact that the picture isn't black and white.

As a post script, I tend to agree with CUSP that preparation for something like this is extremely difficult. One never knows what the next challenge will be, but one can be more or less willing to admit the severity of the situation as soon as possible and bring the best minds together quickly to address it.

[Jay1983 Senior MemberMember of the Month Apr 2014, Sept 2016 Find all posts View Profile Close Jay1983]

Guy checked his bank account, of course for stimulus. Come to find out, his balance was 8.2 million dollars. Apparently, FEDs messed up.

What would you have done?

[madyogi Moderator Member of the Month April 2020PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close madyogi]

Guy checked his bank account, of course for stimulus. Come to find out, his balance was 8.2 million dollars. Apparently, FEDs messed up.

What would you have done?

Uuuuhhhh ....

[Jay1983 Senior MemberMember of the Month Apr 2014, Sept 2016 Find all posts View Profile Close Jay1983]

Uuuuhhhh ....

My thoughts exactly.

[not2big Senior Super ModeratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close not2big]

Guy checked his bank account, of course for stimulus. Come to find out, his balance was 8.2 million dollars. Apparently, FEDs messed up.

What would you have done?

Put it in an interest bearing account and wait for them to ask for it back. At .5%, that’s about $100 a day.

[CUSP82 Administrator Admin of the Month Dec 2014PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close CUSP82]

Guy checked his bank account, of course for stimulus. Come to find out, his balance was 8.2 million dollars. Apparently, FEDs messed up.

What would you have done?

Take the money and move to a country with no extradition treaties with the U.S.

[Jay1983 Senior MemberMember of the Month Apr 2014, Sept 2016 Find all posts View Profile Close Jay1983]

https://fox8.com/news/americans-woul...d-legislation/

Bout time they start using their head.

[BallsMahoney Senior Member Member of the Month Oct 2019 Find all posts View Profile Close BallsMahoney]

https://fox8.com/news/americans-woul...d-legislation/

Bout time they start using their head.

Using a fake crisis to pass income for all & grab the poor vote.

[Jay1983 Senior MemberMember of the Month Apr 2014, Sept 2016 Find all posts View Profile Close Jay1983]

Using a fake crisis to pass income for all & grab the poor vote.

Fake crisis? A lot of Americans are out of work. Unemployment system is backed up. Americans are on lockdown because gov suggests it. Therefore, gov should financially support Americans during this time. America wouldn't be America, if it weren't for the Americans.

I highly doubt there is a fake crisis going on, but I'm certainly interested in reading why you suggest corona is fake, and why you actually think the government would pull such an exercise.

[madyogi Moderator Member of the Month April 2020PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close madyogi]

Using a fake crisis to pass income for all & grab the poor vote.

I really try not to get involved in political talk here, because this is all about my dong, and all about solidarity with my brothers in self-improvement, but dang, fake crisis? I'm with Jay, insofar as I can't see how this is a fake crisis.

My politics are sympathetic to things like UBI and working class empowerment in general. That said, I'm no fan of trying to shove a bunch of political goals into bills that are unrelated to said goals. That was my main beef with the Green New Deal, they tried to push a bunch of completely unrelated things into a bill that should have been simply a new public works program to upgrade infrastructure to more efficient technologies. Anyway, time to update my log and get the hell out of here before I talk too much.

[CUSP82 Administrator Admin of the Month Dec 2014PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close CUSP82]

Nowadays no one can talk to much. Besides what else ya got to do?

[madyogi Moderator Member of the Month April 2020PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close madyogi]

Nowadays no one can talk to much. Besides what else ya got to do?

Fair enough ... I suppose my problem is, once I start talking, I have a hard time stopping, and I do actually have other things to do: working from home till 4:30-ish, getting in some PE during that time, logging PE, then spending time with my wife and kid after .....

[Jay1983 Senior MemberMember of the Month Apr 2014, Sept 2016 Find all posts View Profile Close Jay1983]

Nowadays no one can talk to much. Besides what else ya got to do?

Got to fish and drink rum. Or, in your case, dress up in drag.