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  • The truth about SUPPLEMENTS

    As a fitness trainer and fitness nutrition consult er , I d like to speak a little bit about body building supplements and try to save your health and wallets.

    1)QUALITY OF SUPPLEMENTS
    This area is very vital and delicate.
    There are a lot of companies that are making supplements now days.
    Unfortunately very few of them can be trusted.
    People think that all supplements brands are the same and that all of them are offering the same thing. The truth is far from that.
    I have a friend that owns a body building store and we sent some protein powders brands to the chemical laboratory.
    The result was that almost all of them(including very famous and old companies like “Muscle tech” and “ON” had the HALF protein than they claimed (eg. the scoup should have 24gr and it had 12gr)and they had also traces of anabolic substances.
    The German body building supplements(“Inkosport” and Body “Attack”)were a little better in quality and quantity.

    This is the reason why all these supplements are so cheap comparing to the pharmaceutical ones like SOLGAR and LAMBERTS.
    So the conclusion and my suggestion is that IF you really need a supplement, buy ONLY pharmaceutical brands.

    2) THE REAL NEED OF SUPPLEMENTING
    You really have to understand that the supplement companies have a huge marketing campaign.
    They are claiming things that are not true.
    One good example is the types of protein powders.
    -Whey
    -Casein
    -Albumin
    -ETC…
    They are claiming (for marketing purposes) that the whey is better after training because it is absorbed faster and that your muscles needs a faster absorption protein immediately after training because of the 45 mins anabolic window.
    Well…guess what?!
    The so called anabolic window does not exist!
    All latest scientific researches proved that the anabolic window is a myth and that it does not matter to run like the devil and eat protein ( or use a protein powder) immediately after training.
    The researches showed that the only thing that matters is the DAILY TOTAL PROTEIN CONSUMPTION and not the time that you are gonna consume it.
    So …fast and slow proteins types have zero meaning. Its all about marketing purposes.

    Another good example is the use of BCAAs.
    There is so much marketing behind this supplement…
    Do you know where you can find the grams of the BCAAs from the supplements in food?
    Just 1 hole egg contains the BCAAs of a supplement dosage!
    And the food is always gonna be better than any supplement!
    I could go on and on with examples of how much the marketing is so fake…but I think you got the point.
    What you really need to understand is that if a person is having a bodybuilding nutrition plan , then all the supplements are useless.
    The only supplement that really worth’s and you can not get effective the quantity of it from real food is CREATINE.
    Some people that are on a body building nutrition and they are eating 400gr of meat and 8 egg whites per day (this was just an average example on the total amount of protein foods) they are supplementing with ARGININE.
    What they do not know is that they are consuming about 11 grams of ARGININE from their nutrition per day which is HUGE ! So they really don t need extra supplement for it.
    Another issue is that these companies have spead all these years thatyou need a lot of protein per day in order to gain muscles.
    This is also marketing for buying protein powders…
    The latest researches showed that the hypertrophyis happening with just 1,3 grams of protein per every body kilogram and NOT 2,0 grams or higher that the supplements companies are recommending.
    What people also don t know is that higher dose of daily protein creates problems like ammonia in the blood and suppressed kidneys.

    People that could benefit from supplements are the ones that have a shittynutrition in their lifes and people that have some type on deficiencyon something.

    That was my 2 cents guys.
    Be careful of WHAT and of HOW MUCH you put in your body.
    TeoDeles
    Senior Member
    Member of the Month July 2018
    Last edited by TeoDeles; 07-26-2018, 02:58 AM.

  • #2
    Most bodybuilders consume way more than 2 gram protein per kg lean weight . They will not listen to reason either hyper protein diets are well entrenched in bb lore.

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    • #3
      I know...
      Everyone is responsible for their actions...

      All they do is suppressing their kidneys and be poisoned with excess ammonia and pissing the excess protein.

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      • #4
        I think the whole protein powder industry is a gimmick. You put in the work and eat protein and carbs (even if it comes from hot dogs and pizza) you will progress.
        "I will lick my dick"

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        • #5
          Start | BPEL: 6.2500, EG: 5.0000 |
          Current | BPEL: 7.0625, EG: 5.0625 |
          Goal​ | BPEL: 7.5, EG: 5.5 |

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          • #6
            Food is better that supplements? Now who would have thought of that? And it tastes better. Breakfast anyone?
            The world's still a toy if you just stay a boy!

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            • #7
              Originally posted by CUSP82 View Post
              Food is better that supplements? Now who would have thought of that? And it tastes better. Breakfast anyone?
              Is rum a food or a supplement Cusp?

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              • #8
                Burritos are both! just ask her...
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                • #9
                  After getting pretty sick and dropping below 140 pounds a few years ago with my albumin level being dangerously low, I needed protein... fast. I needed surgery but they wouldn't operate until I got my albumin up to a certain point. I looked at so many supplements and I gave up and just made sure that everything I was eating had a decent amount of protein in it.

                  Now that I'm starting to work out again, this will be helpful. A friend of mine actually recommended ON. Thanks for the heads up!
                  Last edited by jaxw; 08-10-2018, 11:35 PM.

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                  • #10
                    ON is one of the protein powders that we sent in the lab.
                    No good...

                    You can get all the needed protein you need from real food meals.

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                    • #11
                      That's why I'm glad I saw this before I bought any. My problem is that I don't absorb things very well. So, even supplementing, I'm probably not going to get a lot.

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                      • #12
                        For better absorption try eating the foods are GOOD for your blood type (google it) and also take enzymes.

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                        • #13
                          I will say I think protein bars are a valuable supplement and key calories sometimes...mass on the go!
                          "I will lick my dick"

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by teodeles View Post
                            I have a friend that owns a body building store and we sent some protein powders brands to the chemical laboratory.
                            The result was that almost all of them(including very famous and old companies like “Muscle tech” and “ON” had the HALF protein than they claimed (eg. the scoup should have 24gr and it had 12gr)and they had also traces of anabolic substances.
                            When a supplement company produces a protein powder with traces of AAS, that's called "dusting". It's very common for new companies to come out with a protein and dust it with Anavar (Oxandrolone) and then people see crazy gains and fat loss, etc. They then reduce the amount of Anavar so that very little remains and finally none at all. This is why a lot of forums will rave about a product and then people bitch about it months later as they're not seeing the same crazy gains.

                            Interestingly enough, this is more common in the USA where the FDA is more lenient on supplements and allows unscrupulous companies to do such things, as it takes them forever to investigate a product (think of testing a new pharma drug on the public without having to go through all clinical trials). By the time the FDA reviews the product, the Anavar has been removed and the product comes up 'clean'. This is likely due to the huge lobbyist industry in the USA that directly influences the lawmakers and politics. This doesn't happen elsewhere in the developed world, where most commonwealth countries have stringent rules in place for supplements and the food industry. Only in the USA are cattle that have bovine spongiform encephalopathy allowed to enter the food chain for human consumption (they just have to have a lower percentage). Heaven forbid the cattle industry loses some money in the protection of human life. Capitalism as it's best.

                            Likely this is the reason they don't recommend protein supplements to children.

                            Another way to get AAS used to be from taking Beef Liver supplements. The beef industry uses so many steroids to bulk up their cattle for market and all of these steroids are aromatized within the liver, so taking these pills (in the 80's) used to be known as the poor man's steroids. What's funny, is a bottle of these Beef Liver pills used to run you around $50 and you had no idea what steroids you were getting or the quantities (as it's totally random as to what remains within the liver and then factor in the processing into a tablet). For around the same price, you could get a small monthly cycle.

                            As for me, I use protein powder after every workout. I've done the protein during the workout kick, but I never noticed a difference and I prefer BCAA's pre/during a workout anyways. My brand is Magnum Quatro as I've tried almost all others out there and I feel this is the better one for me. I'd love to know if you had this brand tested (or even if it's available in the USA).
                            Original/Current Stats:
                            09 / 2017: BPEL 6.75" / NBPEL 6" / MEG 4.75" / BPFSL 7.25"
                            09 / 2019: BPEL 7.625" / NBPEL 6.625" / MEG 5" / BPFSL 8.125"

                            Realistic Goals:
                            BPEL 8" / NBPEL 7.0" / MEG 5.25"

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                            • #15
                              No I am sorry we had not tested this brand.
                              As for the Bcaa's , 1 egg before your work out will do the same and better job.
                              If you are doing a BB nutrition then you don t need the Bcaa's.
                              You are pissing them from your worked out unit

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