Phallosan Forte real life experience - 2017

[RedWilly Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close RedWilly]

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So its time for some updates regarding my journey with Phallosan. Here is the data so far from my last post.
On the attached pic is me ,wearing Phallosan, showing the green stretch and overall how I wear it.
Not sure how to make it as an attachment, not to be rendered like it is . Its awkward, naked guy with strange white thing wrapped around his manhood, lol

So if some experienced users notice something is not right, then they can point that out.
I'll provide more pictures later, like before/after,etc.
Below is historical data( since my last update+ current data.

End of the third week today ( 16.6), total during the 3rd week: 45h, stretch level mid-high green.
Total time in 15 days( three weeks with break during weekends):140.5h, mainly mid green stretch level, M bell, M sleeve, switching side every 2-3h, removing Phallosan every 2-3 h for peeing.
17.6 , 18.6 - weekend/rest days

19.06 - 10h planned for today.11h today.
20.06 - 10h planned for today.10h today
21.06 - 10h planned.9h today
22.06 - 10h for today; 9h worn
23.06 - 10 h planned, but probably only 8 wear time. 8h today.
Totail time in 4th week: 47h

End of 4th week( 20 days) , total time in 4 weeks: 187.5h

26.06 - 3h, travel
27.06 - 12h
28.06 - 9h
29.06 - rest day.
30.06 - travel, rest day

01.7, 02.7 - weekend/rest days

End of 5th week(23 days). total time in 5 weeks: 211.5h

03.7 - 10h
04.7 - 10h
05.7 - 9.5h
06.7 - 9h
07.7 - travel,rest day

08.7, 09.7 - weekend/rest days.

End of 6th week(27 days). total time in 6 weeks: 250h

Started wearing Phallosan on each side per day, switching sides on daily basis.

10.7 - 07:15 start, planned 10h , 10h today
11.7 - 07:15 start, 10h planned, 10h today
12.7 - 9.5h
13.7 - 10.5h
14.7 - 10h

15.7 , 16.7 - weekend/rest days
End of 7th week(32 days). total time in 7 weeks: 300h

Ok, so today is 14.07,still with Phallosan, the above it says 14.7 - 10h, but that would after 1.5h But yes, I will get them 10h.
So I got 300h with Phallosan, no measurements so far after I started using it.
Not sure what to think though, I really do not think there will be difference , but we shall see.
Rule of thumb( though we are all different) - 1000h for an inch. Does that mean 300h for ~ 1/3 inch or roughly 0.75 sm? No way I got so much

I have very nasty red bruise on my head, in front of it...which is nasty and looks bad. Most people will stop using Phallosan...but me, silly me...I do not want to take a break of a week or 10 days..or more...
So...I am going to continue using it. The logic: It will disappear once I am done, I am sure. It should not impact gains( right?). So I want to get 600h, hoping for 1 cm increase.
I'll rest during the weekend and hope I can measure on Monday next week( 17.07)
My erections are...weaker...not sure how to put this... They felt stronger, like getting them easily ...then one week ago, I had problem keeping the erection. Yesterday I got boner, fine, but in seconds it fades...So I started kegels ,3 days ago, doing them while with Phallosan( the muscle needs to work harder against the Phallosan, I feel it). Also I started towel( or small towel, wet) raises, 4 sets of 15-20 reps, only once. Planning to do this 3d/week. And increasing the load. Also I do normal kegels, once I remember about them( just as addition to Phallosan kegels and towel raises) like 100 or more, do not really count..just like that .And I am planning not to kegel on weekend days when I will have sex or masturbate or just relax, lol

Got Bathmate...but very painful to use it after phallosan, I cant even get erect to go within, so some 50%..But it hurts, I feel the expansion, on my shaft, but due to that red spot/bruise on my head which hurts, it makes Bathmate uncomfortable.

Howerver,Bathmate/Phallosan combo should be the real deal...so need to see how to start with Bathmate. Just do not want to overdo ...Anyway, they say Bathmate helps with erections, you can get some gains, which I am not sure are realistic...until tested by everyone for himself.

Before I finish,I want to say that I will not judge yet Phallosan on 300h mar( mid-high green most of the time), but will wait to complete 600h and judge. On 600th hour, correct me if I am wrong, but if this thing works, there should be some...progress/gain, right?

Will provide pics on Monday when I measure, see where am I. For questions or to discuss further on PE matters with Phallosan/Bathmate, drop me a message

Thank you,
Unkonwn[/QUOTE]

Please keep updating. =) Thanks man and good luck.

[TheZZMan Moderator Member of the Month Sept 2018PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close TheZZMan]

Unkonwn - No explicit Penis Pics in the open forums. Use you personal album and you can link to your photos in your posts. Refer to the rules of posting or ask is any further questions are needed.

[pudendal Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close pudendal]

It sounds like you did a good job gradually increasing your hours to allow yourself time to get acclimated to the device.

no protector cap whatsoever. I am uncut, I tried the cap, not my thing,so I am not gonna use it.

I find that the protector cap helps compress my glans to fit into the bell easier. It might also help you avoid some of the glans bruising and edema you have experienced.

So trying to lengthen a slight erect penis is...well it should be flaccid for the tissue to get stretched right? I just hope that it will not matter if I am slight erect and still can hope to get the length gains.

Transient erections shouldn't prevent gains. Some users prefer to apply the device while semi-erect to make it easier to position the protector cap and roll down the sleeve. I also find that the flaccid penis becomes more engorged later in the day as edema builds up in the tissue from the vacuum.

Got Bathmate...but very painful to use it after phallosan, I cant even get erect to go within, so some 50%..But it hurts, I feel the expansion, on my shaft, but due to that red spot/bruise on my head which hurts, it makes Bathmate uncomfortable.

Howerver,Bathmate/Phallosan combo should be the real deal...so need to see how to start with Bathmate. Just do not want to overdo ...

Monitor your PIs to be sure you're not getting over zealous. You might look through the phallosan user gains table thread (https://www.pegym.com/forums/penis-d...ins-table.html) to find which phallosan users incorporated the bathmate in their routine and then go through their old posts to see what time of day they used the bathmate.

On 600th hour, correct me if I am wrong, but if this thing works, there should be some...progress/gain, right?

I would expect you should see some discernible gains after 600 hours of use. I measure every 400 hours. In the past, I have gained about 1/8" (about 3mm) for every 400 hours. This is around half of the average rate of 1,625 hours per inch reported in the phallosan clinical study. I believe my growth has been slower because I used a traditional rod extender for many years. If your gains keep pace with the study average, you could expect a little over 1/3" (almost 1cm) increase in erect length after 600 hours. You might expect half of that at 300 hours, but less than 0.2" (less than 5mm) might be within the margin of measurement error, so it could be hard to say definitively. Either way, I'm eager to hear your results if you measure on Monday as planned.

[FlyingPotato Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close FlyingPotato]

Hey Unknown, I am deciding whether or not to purchase a Phallosan too and your post confirms that I should give it a shot. May I know you bought your Phallosan from the official site?

Also, you mentioned you are working on your personal blog. Is it okay to share it with us?

[unkonwn Member Find all posts View Profile Close unkonwn]

Hi there, so...I've tried to take a pic of my erect penis now( after 300h ) but I could not get strong erection and I know I can do better...That bothers me...
But contrary on the logical thinking( which would be to leave Phallosan for 1-2 weeks until I get rock solid erections) , I instead put it on. So will go with it...and will think of something in between.
Is it possible that in fact I manage to increase the size of my penis, so my PC muscles now need to get used to 'heavier' member so they need to become stronger to work with somewhat more weight?
That is unlikely to be the case or it may be...
Just they say Phallosan improves the erections, then after 300h they should be hard, but reality for me was different today. So I will really focus on kegels/towel raises...
Just fear that I may give too much stress to my penis, to my...whole area down there and it may just need 2 weeks of absolute rest( no touch, no wank, no sex, no stimulation..etc)
Wanted to share this, took pics of flaccid size( length+girth) so can compare before and after. But I want to see erect results.Next attempt will be at 400h.

Share any comments or whatever you may have in mind, guys.
Thank you.

[FlyingPotato Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close FlyingPotato]

Hi there, so...I've tried to take a pic of my erect penis now( after 300h ) but I could not get strong erection and I know I can do better...That bothers me...
But contrary on the logical thinking( which would be to leave Phallosan for 1-2 weeks until I get rock solid erections) , I instead put it on. So will go with it...and will think of something in between.
Is it possible that in fact I manage to increase the size of my penis, so my PC muscles now need to get used to 'heavier' member so they need to become stronger to work with somewhat more weight?
That is unlikely to be the case or it may be...
Just they say Phallosan improves the erections, then after 300h they should be hard, but reality for me was different today. So I will really focus on kegels/towel raises...
Just fear that I may give too much stress to my penis, to my...whole area down there and it may just need 2 weeks of absolute rest( no touch, no wank, no sex, no stimulation..etc)
Wanted to share this, took pics of flaccid size( length+girth) so can compare before and after. But I want to see erect results.Next attempt will be at 400h.

Share any comments or whatever you may have in mind, guys.
Thank you.

Hey unknown, it seems that if you wear Phallosan for a really long time without rest, it is actually not good for your penis given that you could not get a strong erection. Anyway, take care.

[pudendal Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close pudendal]

I took my NBP flaccid length and girth. I could not get good erection though to picture it - was trying to take somewhat very discrete picture and I was like anxious. I am 15 cm or 6 inches in NBEL and around 14 cm erect girth. But on 17th of May I could not get these results, I was rather soft, so no pic taken of my penis while erect.
But I will take later on, probably few days later when in no way I could have increased the size of my penis ,so it will be still the same size I know for years.

I need the erect length and girth pictured, this is super obvious, I cant continue without them. So I will try to get them tomorrow.( 21.05.2017)
Again - I tried to get errect length and girth in super discreet way on 17th when I got Phallosan, but man I could not.. My penis was not hard and full as I know it, not sure really why, may be nervousness from taking pictures of it and the fact I will show this to the world. But I need to take them pictures so I would do that.

Now, I do not really see or feel any gains so far...but I might be wrong. Like when I try to measure my cock it is always not at its full size...so ironic. Yet, when I masturbated few days ago , that dong was ..like huge...and full and the erection really strong. After wearing phallosan I feel my cock like exhausted and like not really hurting but rather tired...Yet, if I just touch it a bit I get erection. I feel I get erections easily now...may be just in my head..

My erections are...weaker...not sure how to put this... They felt stronger, like getting them easily ...then one week ago, I had problem keeping the erection. Yesterday I got boner, fine, but in seconds it fades...So I started kegels ,3 days ago, doing them while with Phallosan( the muscle needs to work harder against the Phallosan, I feel it). Also I started towel( or small towel, wet) raises, 4 sets of 15-20 reps, only once. Planning to do this 3d/week. And increasing the load. Also I do normal kegels, once I remember about them( just as addition to Phallosan kegels and towel raises) like 100 or more, do not really count..just like that .And I am planning not to kegel on weekend days when I will have sex or masturbate or just relax, lol

Hi there, so...I've tried to take a pic of my erect penis now( after 300h ) but I could not get strong erection and I know I can do better...That bothers me...
But contrary on the logical thinking( which would be to leave Phallosan for 1-2 weeks until I get rock solid erections) , I instead put it on. So will go with it...and will think of something in between.
Is it possible that in fact I manage to increase the size of my penis, so my PC muscles now need to get used to 'heavier' member so they need to become stronger to work with somewhat more weight?
That is unlikely to be the case or it may be...
Just they say Phallosan improves the erections, then after 300h they should be hard, but reality for me was different today. So I will really focus on kegels/towel raises...
Just fear that I may give too much stress to my penis, to my...whole area down there and it may just need 2 weeks of absolute rest( no touch, no wank, no sex, no stimulation..etc)

Is your erection quality down in general or only when you are trying to take a measurement/picture? It seems like this has been a problem for you from the start, so I doubt that the phallosan alone is negatively impacting your PIs. Maybe it's just that you're anxious, or maybe you are being over zealous with your supplemental penis exercises, kegels, pumping, or masturbation/sex. If I abstain from ejaculating for a few days it becomes easier to get a solid erection. When I want to take a measurement, I do it in the morning before starting my routine for that day.

[unkonwn Member Find all posts View Profile Close unkonwn]

Hey, Nomanssland, no no protector cap.I cannot put it ,I tried..and tried...and no luck.I am uncut, my glans are sensitive. I tried to put it on, but it is not my thing. Hence I ditched it..
May be that is why I have the red spots on my head of the penis, on the tip of it.
But anyway,I go this way without protector cap. 330h so far..and continuing....

[unkonwn Member Find all posts View Profile Close unkonwn]

pudendal
I also do not think that PF should impact in negative way my erection quality. It might be something from the past, prior PF...But I am sharing everything around my experience with PF as I am going with the product. Overzealous,I would not call it. I do not do any other supplemental PE stuff...Tried with Bathmate and PF but no time really to do both. Will incorporate bathmate at later time I think. For now sticking to PF only. Regarding the kegels, we talk about 3 times a week. Kegetls with small wet towel( towel raises) of 3x20, performed 2-3 times a day( Mon/Wed/Fri). On the other days I may do some 50-100 kegels just like that ( these are less intensive kegels on rest days.) I would not call this overzealous...I think it should be normal routine with some average/medium load. But please ,if I am wrong, share your thoughts. Regarding sex and masturbation, rather few times a week. Wearing PF makes it harder with timing and condition of my penis. My foreskin and glans are enlarged, some times deformed. I cant possibly have sex with the ugly looking penis. So I need time, few hours but then the erection quality might be compromised ...and so I constantly try to find good moment( weekend ,when rest days) or later in the evening, hoping my penis will look normal and will perform normally. So I cant wait to hit 600h because if 0 gains ,I will conclude PF not useful for me and just not my thing And finally, I will get back to normal life style and will get my normally looking penis back

[unkonwn Member Find all posts View Profile Close unkonwn]

FlyingPotato
Glad to hear this post is helpful.
If you know for how long I have been reading posts around the web and thinking again and again if I should try penis extender. And after I leaned about PF, it took again ages until I decided to buy it and try it. First, I do not really need to enlarge my penis..I am fine as it is.But is it me wanting more size, just me, the maximalist, lol Then once I decided that I will try penis extension, I read ton of stuff about SizeGenetics and Phallosan Forte. About Phallosan, PeGym,GoodLookingLoser and https://www.averagepenissize.com/sizegenetics-review/ ( with site being unreachable, not sure why).
So these sources kinda helped me decide to try PF.
There are so many posts about PF from people claiming they made good gains with 3h wearing per day for 6 weeks. Or wearing for 3 months , several hours a day and made some gains.
Which to be is super suspicious. I even doubt you will get an inch in 1000h( but I may be wrong).
So how then to know for sure and stop thinking is it working, will I really gain an inch in 1000h( 6 months)?
The only viable way is ..well...to invest them 300+ US dollars ( or 270 euros in my case) and try PF for yourself
And so it was decided - I will purchase PF, will use it and will share with people my experience, trying to also provide pictures.
But again - I am one of those people talking and sharing experience about PF...and we know that listening to others is good and helpful, but the only way to know for sure is by purchasing PF

Regarding my idea for the blog, I still haven't started anything, no much time to do this. But if I start , I will definitely share a link here on PeGym.

I purchased PF from the official site, yep. I am talking to Swiss Sana Ansalt( hope I wrote it correctly ) on regular basis via e-mails. Sharing with them how I go with the product, asking them for opinion. They will usually answer me with a link to their website and the details about the old clinical study...This is what they usually give me as an answer, but they reply fast.

[unkonwn Member Find all posts View Profile Close unkonwn]

Update:
I've created two albums:

1. Wearing phallosan - showing pictures of me wearing PF, link:
https://www.pegym.com/forums/members...phallosan.html

2. My progress with PF so far - starting 17May and currently 328h(as of 19July), link:
https://www.pegym.com/forums/members...8h-20july.html

More photos will be added later on.
Also I will create an album with photos with PF package,showing how I got PF, the whole package and its content.

[unkonwn Member Find all posts View Profile Close unkonwn]

Alright, 430h so far with Phallosan. Will measure next week, when I will be >450h.
I also have created a new album with plain pics of my manhood.

https://www.pegym.com/forums/members...cock-pics.html

I put them there to show the overall look of my member as I go with Phallosan.
Now, when I am fully erect( and say wearing silicon ball stretcher), I honestly like what I see ))
My unit seems thick and large, the feeling is awesome. Please note 'thick and large' been relative terms and related in particular to my unit, to how I feel it.
We all believe in measures, inches/cm to spot the growth, to give us that sense of peace of mind that things are working..That is true for me too. But often times, I have some very hard erections when my unit seems really full and somewhat larger, I can feel it. Yet, other times I do not have that fullness and almost every time I try to measure..I seem to lack 100% erection. It is not exact science, these things are relative( others may argue on that )
But I do feel PF works.Lets not forget that we are all different. That amount of hours( 430h) for other people may lead to great gains. And for me it may or may not produce any difference. Though I feel my unit is larger,given proper amount of blood is there.
Measurements still remain to be taken in the course of the next weeks.
My goal is 600h where I do hope to see 0.5 cm( at the very least..as it should be even more, 1 cm or so if 1000h lead to an inch). The 600h mark is very important to me.
One thing I need to mention - my GF doesn't want me to be larger.And that was her statement many moons ago, before I even consider using PF. She is totally satisfied and even feels pain if I go really deep.
That situation somewhat kills the motivation of me to really use PF 'fanatically', observing everything and paying strict attention. I dont do that...because I may not even need PF Because I am already more than enough equipped in the c*ck department according to the woman I love Hence, other guys may have way better results than me while wearing PF, because they may want the growth so badly so they can put more hours, 6 days a week, observing all the details, making changes, reading forums and just put all the work needed. Mindset is very important, changing routines and listening to experienced people also very important, and I tend to skip these things and just staying to very basic PF usage - being in green mostly, switch sizes every day or so, wear for 8-10h, 5 days a week and hope for gains
Started using slowly Bathmate, few minutes at a time, few times a week after PF. This one requires long time to observe results( or this is what they say) so..not expecting anything really from it. But with the time, some girth and perhaps better erection may happen,we shall see about this.

That's all for now, more updates will follow in the next weeks.

[grower789 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close grower789]

Hi Unkonwn,

Thanks for creating this thread with your experience with the Phallosan Forte including pictures of your progress.

I am looking at buying this for myself but am concerned about potential stretching/deformation of my glans (penis head) that might occur with extended use.

I see that the phallosan has a glans protector cap/condom so I'm wondering if that helps protect against the distorting pressure of the vacuum and also the pulling tension? I have seen on some of your pictures that you have a slightly stretched glans from using this device and that you are currently using it without the protection cap. Do you find your glans goes back to normal after you discontinue use? Did you ever use the protection cap and found it to be protective?I'm also wondering if it has desensitised your glans over prolonged use? Despite being uncircumcised I don't have a very sensitive glans and would hate to loose any more sensitivity in it (for obvious reasons).

Any insight would be much appreciated. Thanks.

[masterpiece Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close masterpiece]

hello
thanks for your post,
Have you seen some results ?
Cause i currently wear a PF for 10h.

[unkonwn Member Find all posts View Profile Close unkonwn]

Hello guys,
Now....not sure how to put this..I think I was not serious enough with my posts at PEGym.
I was thinking to update the post around August, when I reached..how much it was...530h or so with Phallosan or was it 600h..
Anyway, I saw no difference, I got those very nasty, lasting bruises and red/purple dots..actually stains on top of my head which made it look like injured.
But it was not only the aesthetics, it was the something more. My GF( genetic engineer, Ph.D going currently) did claim that a case like this - where vacuum is constantly applied to a single spot and that there is a visible effect of it - those large purple bruises..that all of this pretty much can put me in predisposition for a cancer..
Now, don't get crazy or scared, i have no proof for this, no medical opinion here..however, given the fact that I wore it 550+h and that it was a bit of PITA to set up, to wear it, to remove it when peeing, to hide it from 'normally' thinking people( my GF) ,due to the risk I would be taken for a wacko wearing this thing + the risk of injury and the scary word 'cancer' made me abandon it. Have it at home, thinking to sell it, for 50% less, so ..150 USD may be..I would see..
Somewhere in my posts are the hours I wore it, I wore no protector cap..but I was aiming for 8-10h a day, 5 days a week. And no difference...
So did not work for me, I wished so badly it would work.
Now, SG doesn't have the vacuum( ironically the PF most comfortable part which gave me bad bruises, slightly deformed my head and ..I got them marks even today), so with SG might be super uncomfortable to wear as I read all over the Internet, but that SG might work better for me..

Anyway, I bought Bathmate, I started stretching and jelqing again, I am doing..2 days on, 1 day off, then 2 on, 2 off(the weekends).
The program is simple, hope it will work..in time:
1. Warm/hot( not very hot) water 3-4 min. Loosen the tissue, make my c*ck and balls hang low, looks so large, lol
2. Dry up the water and use virgin olive oil + bio coconut butter and massage the cock and the balls firmly , for like 5 min. Massage them balls really properly.
3. Wash off, I am still warm, fill Bathmate with hot water and somewhat semierect enter. Pump till I get to 16 cm,16.5 close to 17 cm, then hold for 6 min
4. Remove the Bathmate( I use Hercules), my cock would look huge, really massive. Dry up a bit, use vit E hand cream as lubricant and stretch for 6 min.
5. Stretch is 30s each direction - straight, up, down, sides. When up and to the sides, I would pull my ball sack to the opposite direction. Gives me better stretch
6. Jelq for 6 min, gently on whatever erection level I am( 50%, then goes slightly more, but less than 80% for sure), 3 s stroke.

That is pretty much it. Those 6 min on BM,Stretch,Jelq may increase to 8 and 10, but not more. I am not sure if BM should be first or last, no idea.
But perhaps as long as I do them , just these exercises, they should provide over time an increase of blood capacity which is what is all of this PE about.
The penis to be able to hold more blood, this leads to larger unit. Period.
And PE is not a sprint is a marathon, so...every little bit adds. More is better here, so these 18 min or up to 30 min in total for the three exercises should provide some results. I also take days off, in total 3 days off and 4 on. I am not gonna go again to 5 days on/2 off, as ..that is too much. Pumping, stretching,jelqing, then sex and masturbation or sexual play and that unit will not be able to recover ever. So these are my thoughts and what I do. Like a month or so on this, not measuring my cock, hoping to see them gains( which might foolish), but perhaps 5-6 more weeks and I will opt for some measure.
Again the post became long..but I guess this is me.
I do kegels also, my EQ seems to have worsen since ...quite some time. Like I am getting hard ,really hard and if I do not touch myself, it fades away quickly..
It might the venous leakage or whatever they call it. Read somewhere I guy did this to him self from erect jelq. In my case it may no be the PE, it might be..something else. So I have ordered some butcher's broom and horse chestnut stuff to see if they help. Or the whole thing might be in my head so I just some breathing and meditation( I should start these though..)

So hope this update helps, a lot of different stuff I brought here..so..it may open a further discussion.

Unkonwn.