Phallosan Forte Review

[Phoenix7672 Senior Member Member of the Month Oct 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Phoenix7672]

1 inch per 2000 hours appears to be more common.

As for the 1 inch (regardless of time/number of hours) -- Is this for a non-PE'er though, or still applies if you have made gains from manual stretching in the past?

[kickinthemebs Senior Member Member of the Month Feb 2014 Find all posts View Profile Close kickinthemebs]

It has been shown on the forum that it mainly refers to newbies. Those who have already gained via other PE methods gain at a slower rate. Some have not gained at all. Have a read through the phallosan gains table thread,lots of interesting posts about it over there

[pudendal Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close pudendal]

New DIY XL Bell:

A few months ago, I made a DIY XL bell to interface with my rod extender (https://www.pegym.com/forums/penis-d...tml#post941765). I was happy with the size but wished that I had made it to also be compatible with the phallosan tension clip for the belt system (I like to alternate between the rod extender base and the belt). I cut the valve out of my small phallosan bell for my first DIY bell and the valve out of my medium phallosan bell for this new DIY bell. The challenge was adhering the valve to the bell securely in a way that the tension clip could attach and bear the load. To achieve this, I used the same materials as the previous bell (two 8oz shampoo bottles, 1.5" PVC adapter nut, and clear epoxy), but left more of the bottle neck in place with a section of the bottle lid threaded onto the bottle neck to keep the tension clip from pulling on the lip of the valve. With a mind toward hanging in the future when my extending gains plateau, I also decided to add a couple D-rings to either side of the bell. I riveted the D-ring brackets to the outer layer of shampoo bottle plastic. For now I'll just keep the D-rings tied down against the bell so that they won't rattle around, but I'll have them when I want to start hanging and won't have to make another new bell.

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[pudendal Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close pudendal]

Tried the new Phallosan condoms:

I got three of the new phallosan condoms in one of Julian's give-aways. The silicone sleeve I had been using gave out today and I decided to try one of the new condoms (medium condom on the large phallosan bell). From my limited time with it, I can't say if it is more durable than the old generation of condoms, but from the videos on the support thread, I was expecting them to be soft and pliable like the silicone sleeves I'm now accustomed to. The elasticity feels pretty similar to the old phallosan condoms to me. After one session with the new condom, I decided to switch it out for a new silicone sleeve just because I prefer the way they feel when wearing them and how they roll up and down.

[closed224 Senior Member Member of the Month Dec 2014, Feb 2017 Find all posts View Profile Close closed224]

So far I have enjoyed the Phallosan. I am gaining in flaccid which is great. I won't be measuring erect for a while so I don't know about that. The Phallosan is surprisingly durable, very discreet if I wear a long untucked shirt. It provides me with a great stretch.

[pudendal Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close pudendal]

So far I have enjoyed the Phallosan.

How long have you been using the Phallosan? I'm pretty happy with the device too. I've seen about a 1/4" of erect gains that I attribute to the Phallosan. I believe it's working, but I feel like 1/4" is still on the cusp of a measurement margin of error. Once I pass 1/2" I'll be comfortable saying definitively that it's worked for me.

[pudendal Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close pudendal]

Implementing Pressure Ulcer Prevention Protocol:

Over the past few months, I've had to take several injury breaks to allow my skin time to heal free from the vacuum. I would find red, irritated patches, predominately on the underside of my glans, that would become friable and wrinkled before sloughing off. I would take a break for a couple weeks and then slowly reintroduce my penis to the vacuum, but it seemed like the problem would invariably recur once I got my daily hours total back up to approaching my goal time. I took the latest of these injury breaks over the holiday season. During that down time, it occurred to me that the cause of these sores might be akin to the process that creates pressure ulcers in bed-ridden patients. Perhaps the pressure of the vacuum holding my glans against the wall of the bell, especially when compounded at night by nocturnal erections, is enough to limit perfusion to these patches and induce ischemic injury. Any moisture that accumulates inside the bell can promote breakdown of the skin.

Over the past couple weeks, as I've reintroduced the vacuum, I've been applying the principles of a pressure ulcer prevention protocol to structure my routine. For patients at risk of bedsores, this means repositioning them every 2 hours to alleviate pressure and restore circulation to areas bearing weight and keeping undergarments and bed linens dry to avoid skin maceration. For vacuum extending I've interpreted this to mean I should try to take a break every two hours to alleviate the pressure and restore circulation, and be sure to dry the protector cap and my glans before putting the device back on. I've always maintained that I don't count a session toward my time total if I have to interrupt it for some reason before reaching at least the one hour mark. So for now I'm trying to keep my sessions in the 1-2 hour range where before I would sometimes allow my sessions to extend to 4 or 5 hours. This isn't always possible when out in public, but I do my best to find a bathroom. I try to get as many hours during the day as possible and limit my wear during sleep to two hours since I really can't compel myself to wake up every two hours to remove the device and then reapply it while half-asleep, and the added pressure of nocturnal erections seems to really wreak havoc. Additionally, I completed a DIY XL bell over the holidays that can interface with the tension clip on the phallosan belt system. If my glans is swollen from exposure to the vacuum throughout the day, I sometimes switch from the large bell to the XL bell in the evening to allow a little more space for expansion inside the bell before the pressure against the walls would restrict perfusion.

So far this new routine seems to be much more friendly on my glans skin. I've been regularly logging at or near my goal time of 10 hours a day and haven't seen any of the tell-tale red patches that I kept getting before. It occurs to me that some of the problems phallosan users have been describing as "blisters" might more accurately be characterized as pressure ulcers. I've had one genuine blister that was about the size of a pin head and was filled with fluid. My other sores also seemed to involve the separation of the outer epidermis from the dermis but were more patchy, covered most of the underside of my glans, and weren't fluid filled, so I think these are two distinct kinds of lesions. It seems to me that a smaller bell that you can tightly pack would be best to avoid the shearing forces that promote blisters, whereas a larger bell with adequate room for expansion would be best to avoid the pressure against the walls that restricts circulation and promotes pressure ulcers. So the "Goldilocks" bell size is somewhere in between and the prevention of blisters and pressure ulcers might be at odds to determine that size. I guess I'd suggest trying a smaller bell if you're getting blisters and a larger bell if you're getting pressure ulcers, but to try and limit session duration and avoid moisture accumulation to prevent both.

[pudendal Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close pudendal]

Weakened Clip?

Over the past few days, I've noticed that one side of the c-shaped clip that hooks onto the bell has been ridding up over the lip of the bell. This is a different problem than the issue I've advised some other users about where the bell pops out of the clip while wearing the device:

wear the clip with the mouth facing toward the body to hold the bell in place

In my case, the clip remains attached to the bell, and the other side of the C stays in the groove. I just notice when I go to remove the device that one side of the clip has disengaged and is positioned over the green part of the pump. I guess it's not really a problem currently. I'm still getting a good stretch and the device isn't detaching. I just wondered if this is happening because my device is getting old and the plastic is weakening. Has anyone else who has put a lot of mileage on their phallosan encountered this problem? Should I be worried it will get worse and start to come unhooked while I'm wearing it? Thanks!

[Tamora Retired Super Moderator Member of the Month Aug 2015 PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Tamora]

...when I go to remove the device that one side of the clip has disengaged and is positioned over the green part of the pump....

Have you checked that the height of the screws inside the clip are even? These will work loose over time and cause the problem you describe.

[pudendal Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close pudendal]

Have you checked that the height of the screws inside the clip are even? These will work loose over time and cause the problem you describe.

I periodically open the pistons and tighten the screws to be sure I'm still getting the proper tension from the springs. On your recommendation, I checked them today and they were slightly loose but not as far unwound as I've sometimes found them. We'll see if tightening the screws solves my problem, but I haven't had any issues since adjusting them today. Thanks for the suggestion!

[TinyPeter Member Find all posts View Profile Close TinyPeter]

Would you recommend the device to someone that has been doing JP90 for +3 months?
I'm considering a Phallason Forte because I'm not too too good at doing my manual stretching sessions
and I think it would be a nice alternative.

[pudendal Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close pudendal]

Would you recommend the device to someone that has been doing JP90 for +3 months?
I'm considering a Phallason Forte because I'm not too too good at doing my manual stretching sessions
and I think it would be a nice alternative.

Hey Peter, I did a manual newbie routine for about a year and didn't see any gains until I switched to a conventional rod-based extender. I've since upgraded to the Phallosan. My progress has been slow but worthwhile. I'd say the Phallosan might be a good option for you if it fits with your schedule. It requires a different kind of consistency than the manual exercises you've been doing. Whereas a manual routine requires a relatively short but active time commitment each day, a phallosan routine will require many more hours but is passive and can generally be achieved concurrent with your everyday tasks (except with occasional breaks to reposition the device). If you have the money to invest, and your lifestyle will allow you to get away with using it many hours alone or in public with clothing that will cover the bulge, I'd say go for it!

[pudendal Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close pudendal]

New Measurement:

I've logged about 400 hours since my last official measurement about 78 days ago. As this included several injury breaks I was only able to average around 400/78 = 5.1 hours per day. This is down from the interval between my previous two measurements when it took me 74 days to reach 400 hours for an average of about 5.4 hours per day. My time averages have been up in recent weeks, so hopefully it won't take as long before I'll be measuring again. When you get this close to the 7" bpel milestone, it is very tempting to tilt your pelvis enough to hit that mark, but I've tried to be fastidious about maintaining a neutral position and I've repeated the measurement a few times. The results are as follows:

bpfsl: about 7.625"
(an increase of about 1/8" from my last measurement and about 5/8" total since starting the phallosan)

bpel: just over 6.875"
(an increase of about 1/8" from my last measurement and about 3/8" total since starting the phallosan)

nbpel: about 6.375"
(an increase of about 1/8" from my last measurement and about 3/8" total since starting the phallosan)

My erect length gains remained pretty consistent from my last measurement. In both cases I saw around 1/8" growth over 400 hours or 400hours/0.125inches = 3200 hours/inch. I've posted a graph below showing the trend line of my gains since starting my log (this does not include my gains from the phallosan before I started keeping an accurate accounting of my hours or my gains from several prior years with a traditional rod-based extender). My bpsfl increase slowed since the previous measurement, but the erect gains have remained consistent.

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[closed224 Senior Member Member of the Month Dec 2014, Feb 2017 Find all posts View Profile Close closed224]

Lookin good, keep it up.

[closed303 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close closed303]

Would you recommend the device to someone that has been doing JP90 for +3 months?
I'm considering a Phallason Forte because I'm not too too good at doing my manual stretching sessions
and I think it would be a nice alternative.

I did the JP90 routine to a T for about 6 months, 5-7 days per week, but didn't see a single gain in girth or length.

I've read tons and tons of claims on pegym.com and thunders place, about how jelqing and manual stretching is so great, and all the gains guys have experienced.

However, taking my own experience into consideration and the fact that there is no peer-reviewed scientific studies available on the subject of jelqing, I refuse to believe there is any gains to be had from it.
I get that it's still a big taboo to show off your penis on the Internet, but even arbitrary evidence like photos of guys who have done jelling did not convince me(different lighting settings and skewed angles can make any object appear longer, when it really isn't). Also, the mere fact that a penis doesn't reach 100% of its potential erection every time you get an erection, says to me that a lot of guys are fooling themselves, and others, even if they measure with the best of intentions.

The only methods of penile lengthening that have any noteworthy, peer-reviewed studies behind them, are penile stretching with traction devices and surgery.

Knowing that, but not wanting to spend a ton of cash on a device, I went ahead and bought the Male Edge (Basic) extender(about half the price of the Phallosan Forte): Long story short: it slips off your penis if you're flaccid, and hurts like hell if you wear it while erect, forcing you to take breaks every 2-3 hours. Plus, you can't wear under your pants without walking like an injured person. Wasted money!

Fortunately for me, I entered the Phallosan Christmas Lottery last December, and won a brand new Phallosan Forte plus three additional sleeve condoms(the improved kind).

If you wear the Phallosan with the updated condoms AND the protection cap(the cap is, in my opinion, very important) you will be able to do "manual stretching"(using a contraption) for many hours a day. I can get in some 12-14 hours on a good day, averaging at about 8h/day, which should be enough to add length to your penis if worn for 1000+ hours, if you are to believe the results of the scientific studies.

I have almost worn the Phallosan for about 300 hours, and still going strong. To avoid discouragement, I won't measure until I have reached 1000 hours.

If you're still hesitating, you can follow my log and see how I progress. And just to be clear, I'm not doing any other than using the Phallosan, so if I see any gains in 2-3 months time, it will be because of it.