Phallosan Forte Review

[DreamOn Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close DreamOn]

Some of the veteran hangers here have gone as high as 36 pounds or more with their hanger in the past and yet they still experienced plateau. I know one of the members here BigO went as high as 36 pounds at one point and I don't think he continued producing gains, but when he started using the LG hanger at a lower weight but more time he was able to make gains. My point is going up in weight may not be necessary to produce more gains as long as the user is using a good amount of weight/tension. I don't know if anybody has taken the time to experiment with a full decon break from PE for 2 months at least and then go back to hanging or wearing an extender at a lower tension/weight and feel fatigue and ultimately break the plateau and make gains, but I believe that is very much possible after seeing how some forum members here progressed with their PE careers. If a member such as BigO hanged as high as 36 pounds then if it's true that one needs to go up in weight in order to produce more gains he shouldn't be gaining as low as 12lbs or whatever weight it was that he gained with the LG if his dick has adapted to 36lbs. Which means if one just take time to decon then he will most likely produce gains again regardless of weight/tension so I believe that if one take a long nice decon break from PE they will start making gains with the PF again should they come back to it.

[kickinthemebs Senior Member Member of the Month Feb 2014 Find all posts View Profile Close kickinthemebs]

Great input as usual DreamOn! That is exactly what I am thinking at the moment too. The really high tension stagnated gains with me when using the phallosan, so I definitely think there is a sweet spot (the high green to high yellow zone), and that into the red zone is a hindrance to gains, surprisingly. At the moment, since I started wearing it again, I am feeling great fatigue in the green zone!!

I am going to try ride out the fatigue as much as possible at that low level and only gradually increase it. I was also playing around with the idea of instead of increasing the tension with the phallosan, perhaps there could be other ways to ride into the fatigue quicker so as to maximize the effectiveness of the phallosan at these lower tensions. I know other things have been done with hanging, i.e. doing a manual stretch routine before hanging etc.

Perhaps a similar approach could be taken so as to keep the phallosan tension in the sweet spot zone. These stretching routines before going in, OR perhaps mix it up and do some hanging sets too. This is similar to what IWABP is doing, which I am looking forward to hearing his results when he reaches the 2000 hour mark.

Again, great ideas and discussion guys, glad to have both of you guys on board here, really good thoughts and brainstorming. You better stick around this time Pudendal

[.net Member Find all posts View Profile Close .net]

i think that using phallosan alone is good for people new to PE, but i dont think it is enough for people who have been doing it a while. adding a weight hanger or a extender would add to the benifits of wearing phallosan for 10hrs per day. i personally use the penimaster for my extending, its the most comfortable extender i have ever used. once ive finished my time with my phalloson, i switch right away to my penimaster. i only wear my penimaster for about 1hr sometimes 2hr. ive noticed that when used along with the phalloson im able to add more length to my extender, and i noticed my hammer gets extra tired after an extender session (which i like). i feel a bit thicker and it looks a but longer, no measurements yet. i think that the phallson acts really like a warm up session,giving the penis a mild stretch through out the day, which adds to the effectiveness of wearing an extender/weights at the end of the day cause all the tissue is already a bit lossen up. i belive that is why im able to extend at a longer length then usual. i belive that the combination of the the two could have a added benift to both. but of course at this point this is all speculation. i will only be able to tell if im right at the 6 month mark, thats when i plan on measuring it.

[DreamOn Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close DreamOn]

Great input as usual DreamOn! That is exactly what I am thinking at the moment too. The really high tension stagnated gains with me when using the phallosan, so I definitely think there is a sweet spot (the high green to high yellow zone), and that into the red zone is a hindrance to gains, surprisingly. At the moment, since I started wearing it again, I am feeling great fatigue in the green zone!!

I am going to try ride out the fatigue as much as possible at that low level and only gradually increase it. I was also playing around with the idea of instead of increasing the tension with the phallosan, perhaps there could be other ways to ride into the fatigue quicker so as to maximize the effectiveness of the phallosan at these lower tensions. I know other things have been done with hanging, i.e. doing a manual stretch routine before hanging etc.

Perhaps a similar approach could be taken so as to keep the phallosan tension in the sweet spot zone. These stretching routines before going in, OR perhaps mix it up and do some hanging sets too. This is similar to what IWABP is doing, which I am looking forward to hearing his results when he reaches the 2000 hour mark.

Again, great ideas and discussion guys, glad to have both of you guys on board here, really good thoughts and brainstorming. You better stick around this time Pudendal

If one can have time, pre-exhausting the tunica/ligaments is always a benefit prior to doing the main routine. Manual and hanging are very good ways to pre-exhaust before wearing the Phallosan Forte for the remaining of the day as it will help fatigue the user faster which gives the user a better chance of gaining.

[pudendal Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close pudendal]

perhaps there could be other ways to ride into the fatigue quicker so as to maximize the effectiveness of the phallosan at these lower tensions.

pre-exhausting the tunica/ligaments is always a benefit prior to doing the main routine.

I've never really gotten a feeling of fatigue from wearing the phallosan, but I've really been enjoying the sensation of achieving fatigue in my rod-based extender with the modified phallosan bell and then sustaining some of that sensation as I switch to the belt system when I go to bed. It sounds like .net is taking the opposite approach, first wearing the phallosan and then switching to the penimaster vacuum extender.

i think that the phallson acts really like a warm up session,giving the penis a mild stretch through out the day, which adds to the effectiveness of wearing an extender/weights at the end of the day cause all the tissue is already a bit lossen up.

I sometimes get a couple hours in with the phallosan belt during the day while in public before switching to the rod-based extender when I get home and it is easier to begin unscrewing the tension threads after applying the device. I then switch back to the belt system before going to bed and get a couple more hours.

[pudendal Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close pudendal]

Belt Modification:

Inspired by DreamOn’s experiments with alternative belt configurations (https://www.pegym.com/forums/penis-d...technique.html), I made some changes to my phallosan belt to relieve the pressure exerted by the foam ring.

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I opened the Velcro, removed the foam ring, slid a piece of plastic tubing onto the belt and then attached the Velcro around the plastic tube to create a loop that could be anchored around my leg. (The plastic tube isn't necessary but allows the belt to glide more smoothly and keeps it from catching on the Velcro. I might order a 1.5" plastic slide like these http://www.strapworks.com/Plastic_Slides_p/ps.htm to put in that Velcro attachment and then feed the belt through that instead).

I apply the belt by stepping one leg through the loop, pulling it up to the top of my leg, and then bringing the clip around my back and attaching it to my penis on the other side.

I've tried the strategy Julian describes in the phallosan support thread to alleviate the pressure from the foam ring (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtzWx5oeL9A) but after extended use, I invariably still got the chaffing feeling where the ring rubs at the base of my penis (and when I aggravate that area on the right side, I occasionally still get the lymphatic induration that I've mentioned in previous posts).

Wearing the belt to sleep, the pressure from the ring always eventually woke me up when I got an erection. This new setup is much more comfortable, allows me to sleep better with the device, and the stretch feels as good or better than the foam ring method.

[pudendal Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close pudendal]

Shouldn't the protector cap be longer?

As I've been trying to get back to my routine and increasing my hours, I've been noticing edema and irritation of the skin around the coronal sulcus that is just below the reach of the protector cap but is still drawn into the vacuum bell (part of the problem might be that I've been using my extra large DIY bell for some of the hours). I've had conversations in the past with BBBB (https://www.pegym.com/forums/penis-d...tml#post734576) and Pursuing Perfection (https://www.pegym.com/forums/penile-...tml#post770786) who had similar complaints about their skin in that area.

It seems like the protector cap should be longer so that there would be an overlap between the cap and the condom sleeve rather than leaving this gap. I'm debating if I should stop using the protector cap altogether so that the pressure would be consistent for all of the skin inside the bell rather than concentrating on the narrow band of exposed skin, or if I should start using tape instead of the cap so I could cover that area.

[kickinthemebs Senior Member Member of the Month Feb 2014 Find all posts View Profile Close kickinthemebs]

If you have been wearing the phallosan for a while, then wearing it without the protector cap is fine. You definitely need a readjustment phase doing this though and it is a little trickier at higher tension or with a larger bell. I wore the phallosan without the protector cap for most of my hours and it was fine except at red tension.

[pudendal Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close pudendal]

Counting Hours:

For the past few days I've been setting the timer function on my phone for 10 hours when I first put on the device, and pausing it as I take breaks, to ensure that I am hitting my goal for the day. In the past I've just looked at a clock and kept an approximate mental tally throughout the day. How do you keep track of your hours in the phallosan?

[kickinthemebs Senior Member Member of the Month Feb 2014 Find all posts View Profile Close kickinthemebs]

Just do it by the clock. I usually do ten minutes extra to count for the toilet breaks for the day.

Counting Hours:

For the past few days I've been setting the timer function on my phone for 10 hours when I first put on the device, and pausing it as I take breaks, to ensure that I am hitting my goal for the day. In the past I've just looked at a clock and kept an approximate mental tally throughout the day. How do you keep track of your hours in the phallosan?

[Banana Bender Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Banana Bender]

I've taken to doing the same. I alternate between the Phallosan and an Andropenis. For the first thousand hours I was exclusively Phallosan.

Gains at this point are inconclusive, so I will wait until I'm around 2,000 hours.

I do agree with all that's been discussed at the moment as it is similar to my own experience. I will just add, though, that I took about a two year break from PE - so that's a lot of deconditioning. Didn't seem to change much when I came back.

[pudendal Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close pudendal]

I've been noticing edema and irritation of the skin around the coronal sulcus that is just below the reach of the protector cap but is still drawn into the vacuum bell

Update: The skin around my coronal sulcus has gone from looking red and angry to dried out and crusty. I think it's just adjusting to my rededication to longer hours in the device after a lull of only sporadic use.

[kickinthemebs Senior Member Member of the Month Feb 2014 Find all posts View Profile Close kickinthemebs]

Yup, I have had the same the past two days mate. It is really annoying, I got small water blisters last week and this week I got the notorious wrinkly glans! I have seriously upped the hours since I started back using the phallosan again. From what I remember from before, it is a total adjustment period. Once we are used to wearing them for long periods again, it will all be fine

Update: The skin around my coronal sulcus has gone from looking red and angry to dried out and crusty. I think it's just adjusting to my rededication to longer hours in the device after a lull of only sporadic use.

[pudendal Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close pudendal]

Belt modification update:

When I last posted about modifying the phallosan belt, I had removed the foam ring and made a loop to anchor around my leg (https://www.pegym.com/forums/penis-d...tml#post921627). At that time, I slid a short plastic tube over the belt and then fastened the Velcro attachment (where the foam ring had been) around the tube to allow the belt to slide easily over itself without catching on the Velcro. This works pretty well, but I ordered a 1.5" plastic adjuster slide (Plastic Slides) thinking it would serve the same purpose as the plastic tube but would hold the leg anchor loop at a set size and would keep the belt from getting twisted up. Unfortunately, the belt is just too long (I have a 30" waist) for me to be able to tighten it enough to get tension with this kind of slide, and the rectangle was less comfortable to sit on than the plastic tube.

So I've ruled out that slide, but even using the plastic tube, the belt is almost too long and has to be pretty tight around my leg in order to have enough length around my back to tighten the tension on the clip. I could tie a knot in the belt to take up some of the slack, but I decided to try something like tbone350's design (https://www.pegym.com/forums/penis-d...made-belt.html). He made a belt that goes all the way around the waist (not anchored around the leg or the penis), and the tension is adjusted by turning the belt around the waist to draw the attachment clip away from the penis rather than tightening the belt. To achieve this setup with the original phallosan belt rather than making a new one like tbone did, I ordered a 1.5" plastic buckle (Single Adjust Side Release Buckles) that connects the two ends of the belt. I moved the clip so that it is held in place on top of the size adjuster slide.

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I'm pretty happy with how this works. Like the leg anchor method, it alleviates the pressure at the base of the penis from the foam ring, and it is more comfortable than having the belt tight around the leg. It is a little bit harder to get the tension to stay just where you want it, but if you start out with the belt pretty tight around the waist it stays where you set it alright.

Let me know if you have any other ideas for alternative belt configurations!

[Meatpuller Member Find all posts View Profile Close Meatpuller]

Defective device is probably a factor why many people don't continue using it.