Do hot chicks think average is small?

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I think what Pegasus said is correct...Women know these comments impact you...Women search to control situations...Damaging your ego helps her gain control...On one hand, you need to be above these types of cheap shots...On the other hand, if a female is taking these types of jabs at you just ghost them period....No need to be with someone that doesn't view you as a high value man...

Out society is size obsessed...You see it all throughout porn and popular culture...Women have very unrealistic expectations when it comes to dating in general...let alone penis size...Ever here them saying they are looking 6 6 6? I believe its 6 ft tall, makes 6 figures and can't remember the final six...maybe 6 inches long...based on this thread that can't be right though...

6 feet tall
6 figures
6 inch girth (or is it horsepower)?

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Never let them see you sweat. Not even in the bedroom. Lol!

[jax88 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close jax88]

My current partner of 3 years calls me “ka door lek” which means small cock in Thai. I am 7 inches nbpel at my best so it is laughable but she is serious in her critique of my manhood. You have to except some girls are only going to come across larger than average ones

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My current partner of 3 years calls me “ka door lek” which means small cock in Thai. I am 7 inches nbpel at my best so it is laughable but she is serious in her critique of my manhood. You have to except some girls are only going to come across larger than average ones

This is a direct attack on your confidence and a standard female ploy.

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This is a direct attack on your confidence and a standard female ploy.

It has no effect on me we both laugh at it. I know I am above average, her comment can’t make me feel any other way

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It has no effect on me we both laugh at it. I know I am above average, her comment can’t make me feel any other way

Power to you . I still suggest you think on her motivation as we regard this as a red flag .

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So guys I'm not a feminist and probably dislike them, but there does seem to a bias against woman here. For the most part the female equivalent of dick size to woman is breast size. Also breasts are like a key differentiator of femininity.

From my point of view, we have it worse as we have to walk around in public in clothes which clearly articulate how big or small they are, and also just my looking at our clothing has specific sizes already made for us. One of the first things that a guy asks when sexting is your cup size.

Guys on the other hand have it easy in that there's no clothes made specifically for a small dick, nor do you have to show it out in public.

I totally understand that you have an amazing sex life with a girl

A question I have is that if a girl who normally orgasms vaginally quite easily with partners of her size preference, doesn't cum with you, and the issue is size. Would you want her to tell you? Or rather fake orgasms so as to not hurt your feelings? Or pretend that she can't orgasm vaginally?

I've done all three, so I know there's no right answer.

I totally understand that if you have amazing sex with a woman and she orgasms easily with you, and she makes comments on penis size, they're probably unwarranted and she's trying to mess with you. On the other hand she could be just faking.

[jamoke125 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close jamoke125]

This is a depressing thread.

I think porn is to blame as for most girls, including myself, the first penis we see is in porn. (For me it was a pornstar called Manuel Ferrara). And this sets the bar as to what is considered 'normal'.

The first one I saw in real life appeared really small to me, and I thought it was just because we were teens. But as I saw more I realized that pornstars are quite a bit bigger than average.

The other thing porn does is subconsciously embeds the concept of 'bigger being better'. In most porn scenes the girl looks shocked at how big a guy is and makes it look like it feels amazing.

I believe that's actually what creates 'Size Queens' and the like, as porn and pop culture definitely makes the hung men more desirable. Till this day when watching porn a really large one really arouses me, whereas I know in real life it will be painful.

But the exact same thing happens to woman surrounding to breast size and looks. Being closer to flat chested than your average girl, guys always make remarks sometimes in a loving way like "I love your cute little tits" or in a plain way like "Wow your tits are so small!", and I still feel it, because I know he probably likes busty woman, and there's nothing wrong with that.

Also guys rate girls and call them 8, or 9 or 6. Its the same concept, as woman in movies have model good looks and some are quite busty.

Ooof yeah that's a good point. Porn has been messing things up for years now. Everybody talks about how young men watch it and compare themselves, but young woman too it will skew their expectations like you said. And more and more young women are watching I think because I see an increasing number of them on forums like nofap and such unfortunately.

I have to say though the breast and dick comparison is actually pretty different. Breast is more like height or shoulder width or something for a man. Its unchangeable and is visibly apparent thus it factors in to initial attraction. What you see is what you get. A dick on the other hand is hidden and many times a woman will make the decision to sleep with you or not without knowing anything about it. Unless the guy is pulling a grey sweatpants routine or she has heard about if from someone else. Also (and this might be more important), unlike breasts, it is directly involved in intercourse and the pleasure your partner gets. This is why many many women will be regarded as hot or a sex symbol or something regardless of small breasts whereas a man could look like Thor or something but if he has a small penis his sex appeal will plummet. Keira Knightley, Natalie Portman, Cameron Diaz all have small breasts, but they are 10's in my book lol and probably a lot of other guys too. So even if it were on the same playing field as dick size I think way more guys would be down for small breasts than there would be women down for small dicks.

I just brought the rating up initially because the thread was about how attractiveness plays into the women's perception of size. But I feel like everybody kinda rates everybody right? Like a man will come up to a woman and the woman mentally will be like okay he's "hot" or "handsome" or "cute" or "ehh" or "ew" or "EWWW." It's the same thing except men put it in numbers because idk... Maybe we really are mathematical or something haha....

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So guys I'm not a feminist and probably dislike them, but there does seem to a bias against woman here. For the most part the female equivalent of dick size to woman is breast size. Also breasts are like a key differentiator of femininity.

From my point of view, we have it worse as we have to walk around in public in clothes which clearly articulate how big or small they are, and also just my looking at our clothing has specific sizes already made for us. One of the first things that a guy asks when sexting is your cup size.

Guys on the other hand have it easy in that there's no clothes made specifically for a small dick, nor do you have to show it out in public.

I totally understand that you have an amazing sex life with a girl

A question I have is that if a girl who normally orgasms vaginally quite easily with partners of her size preference, doesn't cum with you, and the issue is size. Would you want her to tell you? Or rather fake orgasms so as to not hurt your feelings? Or pretend that she can't orgasm vaginally?

I've done all three, so I know there's no right answer.

I totally understand that if you have amazing sex with a woman and she orgasms easily with you, and she makes comments on penis size, they're probably unwarranted and she's trying to mess with you. On the other hand she could be just faking.

If you fake the first couple of times because you realize its not gonna happen at that time, but acknowledge he could still make you cum sometime down the road that's okay. But like after the first month or so after sex and communicating and still no orgasm and you are faking it... Yeah I would rather you told me. With an understanding that we both will be going are separate ways once you tell me because that situation is not fair to either party. If I have treated you with respect and such something like "hey I'm sorry but I am used to sex with bigger guys and I can't cum during sex with you because you are smaller. Which sucks because you're a cool guy but I promise I won't tell anyone. I got your back." I would leave thinking damn...this sucks, but what a chill girl though for saying that, I gotta respect it. Everybody has preferences and even different anatomy themselves in some cases.

For me its the ridicule and social ostracization I have a problem with. Like a lot of women will go back to their friends or even mutual friends and be like "OMG LET ME TELL YOU THIS GUY HAD A DICK THE SIZE OF MY PINKY IT WAS SO WEIRD HAHAHAHA" (actual quote I've heard...) All the girlfriends proceed to laugh and poke fun at the guy behind his back or have inside jokes about him when they see him.
I'm supposedly average so at least I'm functional size, thus it hurt when it happened to me but I can't even imagine the pain smaller, less functional size guys feel when something like that gets back to them. Especially if they have been good guys to the women. I think it should be treated like a mild disability imo.

Society as a whole openly praises big dicks and then has this snickery attitude toward small dicks which is puzzling because this is basically acknowledging that small dick men face serious challenges during sex. Sex being something that is such a natural and deeply instinctual part of life and plays a large part in experiencing love and intimacy with someone...which is like the ultimate goal for like 95% of people: finding love and someone to share you life with. So someone having challenges in this department, due to something that is widely regarded as something that they cannot change, is like a nightmare and I don't understand the empathetic disconnect people have toward it.

And then on top of that after hearing the condescending attitude to small dicks, a small dick guy will vent and be like yes it sucks and then the SAME PEOPLE will literally come back and gas light them like "oh it doesn't matter, its the motion of the ocean, YOU JUST GOTTA BE MORE CONFIDENT, IT ONLY MATTERS BECAUSE YOU THINK IT MATTERS (or some other bs...). It's like jeez idk how these small dudes don't go insane...

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So guys I'm not a feminist and probably dislike them, but there does seem to a bias against woman here. For the most part the female equivalent of dick size to woman is breast size. Also breasts are like a key differentiator of femininity.

From my point of view, we have it worse as we have to walk around in public in clothes which clearly articulate how big or small they are, and also just my looking at our clothing has specific sizes already made for us. One of the first things that a guy asks when sexting is your cup size.

Guys on the other hand have it easy in that there's no clothes made specifically for a small dick, nor do you have to show it out in public.

I totally understand that you have an amazing sex life with a girl

A question I have is that if a girl who normally orgasms vaginally quite easily with partners of her size preference, doesn't cum with you, and the issue is size. Would you want her to tell you? Or rather fake orgasms so as to not hurt your feelings? Or pretend that she can't orgasm vaginally?

I've done all three, so I know there's no right answer.

I totally understand that if you have amazing sex with a woman and she orgasms easily with you, and she makes comments on penis size, they're probably unwarranted and she's trying to mess with you. On the other hand she could be just faking.

Most girls claim that their size preference if very wide as far as ability to orgasm goes .

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If you fake the first couple of times because you realize its not gonna happen at that time, but acknowledge he could still make you cum sometime down the road that's okay. But like after the first month or so after sex and communicating and still no orgasm and you are faking it... Yeah I would rather you told me. With an understanding that we both will be going are separate ways once you tell me because that situation is not fair to either party. If I have treated you with respect and such something like "hey I'm sorry but I am used to sex with bigger guys and I can't cum during sex with you because you are smaller. Which sucks because you're a cool guy but I promise I won't tell anyone. I got your back." I would leave thinking damn...this sucks, but what a chill girl though for saying that I gotta respect it. Everybody has preferences and even different anatomy themselves in some cases.

For me its the ridicule and social ostracization I have a problem with. Like a lot of women will go back to their friends or even mutual friends and be like "OMG LET ME TELL YOU THIS GUY HAD A DICK THE SIZE OF MY PINKY IT WAS SO WEIRD HAHAHAHA" (actual quote I've heard...) All the girlfriends proceed to laugh and poke fun at the guy behind his back or have inside jokes about him when they see him.
I'm supposedly average so at least I'm functional size, thus it hurt when it happened to me but I can't even imagine the pain smaller, less functional size guys feel when something like that gets back to them. Especially if they have been good guys to the women. If the guy has been an objective asshole like cheating or domestic violence or something I can understand that type of reaction, but otherwise I think it should be treated like a mild disability imo.

Guys onsite who are over average size claim girls have done this .

[Alwaysbbetter Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Alwaysbbetter]

So this thread really seems to have legs...No pun...Think of it from this standpoint point..Ideas are already skewed here if you think of the nature of this forum..We are not here for nothing guys...At some point, all of us desired being something more...Somebof us had experiences like the other poster...some just want to be a very best period...

But it probably should surprise any of us that guys here have stories like the OP
providing motivation...The simple fact is this...modern women are far more permiscuous than in the past...You have culture, porn, social media ect...all of which seem to favor the female...while our masculinity is attacked constantly...ive been out of dating for many years now...I still have some friends out there though...Average looking women are demanding the highest value men...They are seeing more penises even just from guys on social media...they are picking and choosing who and when they want to bang...eventually, this backfires on them as they age and get tossed aside...

Agree with the other poster saying that breasts are not q fair comparison...The penis is the actual performer...when she clowns that she is clowning your sex to some extent...I do feel it raises some red flags...you would think that some of these women would get a realistic sense of what big, medium and small is...But I think in their prime they go out looking for the best deal...Which means that 1 or 2 guy out of say 10...Most women also do not seek to count the also rams like we do...I was talking once to a female about how every guy always ends up dumping the....I stopped her and said wait...what about that last guy you left...wait yo u said you walked broke it off with guys on two separate occasions when a guy you knew became single...It turns out...she only really counted the guys she was really into...I think that is happening here on two levels...One...these females may not fully respect the guy they clown..infect I doubt they do....2. this becomes the marker of that...the small penis things get thrown around as control as they see you as less value than some of the others.. I wonder how small your penis would be if you told them to leave?

[Party Senior Member Member of the Month August 2016 Find all posts View Profile Close Party]

So. I had a conversation with a woman the other day, size matters to her as long as it’s not to big. She said you guys are so lucky to be men. I asked, why? I followed up by saying, sometimes I wish I had been born a woman. Why, she asked, Multiple reasons I answered, with a wink.
She said “Oh, Okay.”

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So this thread really seems to have legs...No pun...Think of it from this standpoint point..Ideas are already skewed here if you think of the nature of this forum..We are not here for nothing guys...At some point, all of us desired being something more...Somebof us had experiences like the other poster...some just want to be a very best period...

But it probably should surprise any of us that guys here have stories like the OP
providing motivation...The simple fact is this...modern women are far more permiscuous than in the past...You have culture, porn, social media ect...all of which seem to favor the female...while our masculinity is attacked constantly...ive been out of dating for many years now...I still have some friends out there though...Average looking women are demanding the highest value men...They are seeing more penises even just from guys on social media...they are picking and choosing who and when they want to bang...eventually, this backfires on them as they age and get tossed aside...

Agree with the other poster saying that breasts are not q fair comparison...The penis is the actual performer...when she clowns that she is clowning your sex to some extent...I do feel it raises some red flags...you would think that some of these women would get a realistic sense of what big, medium and small is...But I think in their prime they go out looking for the best deal...Which means that 1 or 2 guy out of say 10...Most women also do not seek to count the also rams like we do...I was talking once to a female about how every guy always ends up dumping the....I stopped her and said wait...what about that last guy you left...wait yo u said you walked broke it off with guys on two separate occasions when a guy you knew became single...It turns out...she only really counted the guys she was really into...I think that is happening here on two levels...One...these females may not fully respect the guy they clown..infect I doubt they do....2. this becomes the marker of that...the small penis things get thrown around as control as they see you as less value than some of the others.. I wonder how small your penis would be if you told them to leave?

High value is usually about money/social status.
Can you explain "clown"?

[Coolrahul Member Find all posts View Profile Close Coolrahul]

Do you think that hot chicks think that an average size is small? I wonder if the guys that pursue hot chicks tend to have larger dicks, and it results in hot chicks seeing much larger sizes as being average and the real average as being small. I am 6.75 bpel and 5 inches mseg and I've been called small by several good looking women. They were not jilted exes or anything either. I get the impression that average size to a hot chick is probably more like 7 inches npel and 5.5 inches mseg. Hopefully I'm wrong.

What do you guys think? Does this seem reflective of reality, or not?

O.P. first of all you're huge. If a girl ever told you that you're small, either they were those "hot chicks" who basically have a very high level of ego, because they get attention from a lot of guys which inflates their ego or they really don't have a clue about penis sizes.

I will say the best way to overcome your doubts about penis size is not being over-weight + shaving your pubes. Trust me shaving pubes makes a much bigger difference.

I am 5.5 x 4.5" and I only have had one girlfriend. The first time she saw my penis, she said "You're big". She was a sweet girl and I know she said it to keep my heart, and I replied her "No, its not big its average." She asked me if I ever measured my size and I told her. She pulled out her phone, did a quick google search about average penis size, and the result showed 5.16 x 4.0". She said "See you should be happy you're bigger than average."

Clearly, she didn't have any idea about penis sizes and was just satisfied that I am around average. I'm an Indian and this is the average size in my country...most of the guys on this site are probably American or European so your average sizes must be bigger. The point is be happy with your size...all of you are bigger than some guy think about that. Don't let these "hot chicks" bother you, they don't know shit. Get back at them at their breast sizes, and tell them you've seen bigger. Case closed.