My log in beating PreE

[GettingOverIt Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close GettingOverIt]

For sure I have to work on the mental side and arousal control. I am working on making a plan for myself now.
how did you sorted that out?

I spoke to her about my issues in my head about her ex which what put pressure on me. Turned out I was way way off about the stereotype regarding black men, especially the stat online that they are very long and have super stamina. I was so caught up with this that I never even noticed how my thick member and 7" (7" + on good days) made her feel. She does tell me to go slow at times, and she says thats because it's very thick and thicker at the base, and she never had such thickness to deal with during sex. As for her ex working her Post fornix and Ant fornix, she doesn't think so as she says, she feels me deep when I go deep and never paid attention to depth with her ex. So the sex I have been imagining with her 'bbc' ex is nothing like what I was picturing went on. She said it was very basic, and nothing great to remember. She loves our chemistry and sexuality and all that. - So now I don't think or feel those things anymore, and that has made my Pre E mental issue a non issue and that coupled with the stretching etc. has basically cured my Pre E.

I also relied heavily on the weed to have long sessions, hell even to have a normal session that involves me finishing before she even gets warmed up or before penetration. That stiffness and super hard on you get before PIV is not always a sign of good EQ, it means in our case of Pre E that we have too much tension. I feel that an erection needs to shoot to diamond hardness right at the point of ejaculation. During PIV it needs to be around 10, but when it is so hard and so blown up around the glans, that is over 10 and has to release. When you feel your PF looser and more relaxed, you get a 10 EQ, no IKs and hardly a need to RK (Pegym geek talk LoL).

However you are stretching that PF, make sure you stretch it for long, not in combinations, find the action that best stretches it and keep it stretched for long as you can, and push past that now and then. It is unfortunate that you cant do squats because that has amazing results. Also, I never edge.

All the best man! - You are going to beat this.

[Jimmy_quick Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Jimmy_quick]

I spoke to her about my issues in my head about her ex which what put pressure on me. Turned out I was way way off about the stereotype regarding black men, especially the stat online that they are very long and have super stamina. I was so caught up with this that I never even noticed how my thick member and 7" (7" + on good days) made her feel. She does tell me to go slow at times, and she says thats because it's very thick and thicker at the base, and she never had such thickness to deal with during sex. As for her ex working her Post fornix and Ant fornix, she doesn't think so as she says, she feels me deep when I go deep and never paid attention to depth with her ex. So the sex I have been imagining with her 'bbc' ex is nothing like what I was picturing went on. She said it was very basic, and nothing great to remember. She loves our chemistry and sexuality and all that. - So now I don't think or feel those things anymore, and that has made my Pre E mental issue a non issue and that coupled with the stretching etc. has basically cured my Pre E.

I see your point. Indeed it is important to find out what is behind the mental problem and borders we build. For you this was your wife's ex and the size which you were worried about. It was indeed not the PreE problem by itself.
For me it is the PreE itself. Even wife does not mind it at all, most of the time she prefers it even quick.
I however do not feel satisfied by ejaculation after I put it in.. We have some really nice sex sessions while I am a bit drunk or on weed. In this situation I see how my wife enjoys to be fuck hard for a longer time and I realize it is my limitation that screws our sex life.

I also relied heavily on the weed to have long sessions, hell even to have a normal session that involves me finishing before she even gets warmed up or before penetration. That stiffness and super hard on you get before PIV is not always a sign of good EQ, it means in our case of Pre E that we have too much tension. I feel that an erection needs to shoot to diamond hardness right at the point of ejaculation. During PIV it needs to be around 10, but when it is so hard and so blown up around the glans, that is over 10 and has to release. When you feel your PF looser and more relaxed, you get a 10 EQ, no IKs and hardly a need to RK (Pegym geek talk LoL).

I know the feeling of being hard and still dont have any IKs or feel the urge to cum. Sometimes when I manage not to ejaculate for about 20-30min I can get this plateau where I am 10 EQ , very hard, and can go for longer time. However I need time to go there and wife is usually not so patient with that...
About the weed, I had great success in the past, but currently tried again and it was even worse.. not sure might be because of the strain..

However you are stretching that PF, make sure you stretch it for long, not in combinations, find the action that best stretches it and keep it stretched for long as you can, and push past that now and then. It is unfortunate that you cant do squats because that has amazing results. Also, I never edge.

All the best man! - You are going to beat this.

Thanks you have a point. I also try to keep my PF relaxed during the day. In fact I am working on computer and sitting all day long, which is not good for my posture and PF.
I like by the way the penguin pose stretch, have you tried it? It gives me really good stretch, I do something like 5min per side currently.

[GettingOverIt Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close GettingOverIt]

Hey JQ, hope you're well man?

I will check out the penguin pose. Duration of the stretch is what will cement the results. I also trained myself to be aware of the PF in everyday movements whether it be walking or lifting things etc. Amazing how unaware I used to be.

Hope you get the results you want and you probably will over the time you putting in.

[GettingOverIt Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close GettingOverIt]

Can't find penguin pose but tons of pigeon pose tuts on youtube. Did you perhaps mean Pigeon pose?
I also do this, not a lot but I like the stretch too. This should help you with the PF.

[Jimmy_quick Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Jimmy_quick]

Can't find penguin pose but tons of pigeon pose tuts on youtube. Did you perhaps mean Pigeon pose?
I also do this, not a lot but I like the stretch too. This should help you with the PF.

Thanks man. I am sure work will pay off. I have greatly improved the relationship with wife lately as well.
About the stretch, yes indeed it is pigeon pose, sorry spellchecker corrected it for some reason

[Jimmy_quick Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Jimmy_quick]

quick progress update as it has been already about 6 weeks since I started following my last routine:

Workouts:
Have been doing daily stretches. I am so flexible now that I can do all exercises with ease for long period of times.
I however still do not feel my PF relaxed as I would like it to be.
Maybe I need to increase the time and concentrate on the exercises I feel the most effective.
For now this will be the pigeon. Since I cannot do the hindi squad, I will spend more time on this one.
Any suggestions for good PC/BC muscles stretched aside from hindi?

In regards to my APT. It is definitely much much better now and I can see progress.
I think I will need 2-3 months more and I will have this fixed.

Edging:
Haven't progressed on this one. Got a FL to use is for training but had some fight with wife around this. Will use it on later stage.

Sex:
Had sex every day the last 4 days with some success and observations.

I have come to the conclusion I reach the PONR very fast in three occasions:
Phase 1. The moment of first penetration. The sensation is overwhelming and I have to stop right after and eventually even pull out. Here I think the problem is physical and not phycological as I am not so aroused at this point.
Phase 2. I am after phase 1, maybe 20 min have passed. I have medium to good control. I can go on slow speed without stopping and maybe increase from time to time. However starting pounding faster brings me to PONR
Phase 3. When I have managed to pass Phase 1. and eventually extend Phase 2. and I have been in plateau but wife start moaning, tells me she like it, talking dirty, kisses me passionately with her tongue I start loosing it and I cannot bring her to orgasm as I either stop and start again/pull out/ or cum.

Something interesting to note is the BC muscle lock out that happens after the first 20-30 min. Does anybody have an explanation about it? How can I reach this moment earlier?
For sure everyone knows this feeling. You are at 100% erection, you feel everything, you can go for a glass of water come back to the bedroom and have your erection still there even without stimulation.
At this moment I can say my BC muscle has locked out my erection, PF by itself is however somehow relaxed. But the problem is I cannot reach this moment quickly, I need time.

[Johnny D ModeratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Johnny D]

I hear you but I think the issue is largely one of arousal. It will manifest itself through heightened physical response to stimulation but it's still an issue of you being comfortable, confident, and rid of the anxiety. Your body is doing what it was designed to do so it takes a lot of work for you to train it to go against the urge. I really think edging is where it's at for you. You have to learn how you respond to stimuli - both physical and mental - and the teach yourself to manage that response.

How long has it been since you tried hindi squats. I recall that they cause problems for you before because you were trying to push hard RK's simultaneously. They can (and I think should) be done relaxed - no contraction OR expansion of the pelvic floor. Otherwise, you can be doing the other groin stretches like happy baby, butterfly, etc...

[Jimmy_quick Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Jimmy_quick]

I hear you but I think the issue is largely one of arousal. It will manifest itself through heightened physical response to stimulation but it's still an issue of you being comfortable, confident, and rid of the anxiety. Your body is doing what it was designed to do so it takes a lot of work for you to train it to go against the urge. I really think edging is where it's at for you. You have to learn how you respond to stimuli - both physical and mental - and the teach yourself to manage that response.

Thanks Johnny. Agree, I have teach myself to be able to edge for quite some time with my hand only and basically being static, I.e. sitting, laying down or standing. Now since I used the FL, I realised I have less control while thrusting in it which makes me tense up fast. When adding some arousal to this like wife moaning, wanting to be fucked deep pushes me through the edge.
lately we are making sex almost every day so I don't have time and privacy for edging with the FL. I will work on this when I can.

How long has it been since you tried hindi squats. I recall that they cause problems for you before because you were trying to push hard RK's simultaneously. They can (and I think should) be done relaxed - no contraction OR expansion of the pelvic floor. Otherwise, you can be doing the other groin stretches like happy baby, butterfly, etc...

I never pushed hard RK when in Hindi squat. And I can confirm it is maybe the best PF stretch. What happened is that I developed hemorrhoids because of the prolonged squat position. I guess the pressure on my anus area is too strong.
So I am doing all these exercises with caution of not pushing to hard.

[Jimmy_quick Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Jimmy_quick]

Some observations after 2 days in a row with two rounds is sex each:

1st day.
1st round.
In the first round did everything possible not to cum. Stop/start, pulling out often, going very slowly, not moving. After maybe 30min, sensivity was gone and I had some kind of control. Was able to go on slow speed for longer time, the urge to reach PONR was still there thou.
after another 30min could not hold it and cum.
2nd round.
10min after the 1st round I was ready again and wife in the mood. So we went for. Had almost perfect control, could thrust fast and deep. Lasted about 30min and gave the wife really good fuck. She enjoyed it.

2nd day.
1st round.
Since the very beginning the urge was too strong. Made the mistake the leave her on the top, where I cannot control the speed so I came in 1 min.
2nd round.
again 10 min after the 1st round.
this time I had much less control after the first day so I managed to prolong the act to about 10 min but was difficult to fight the PONR back.

Conclusion:
the duration to PONR in the second round depends of the time and effort put in the first round, I.e. the longer I manage to prolong the first round the better results I would have in the second.

[Jimmy_quick Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Jimmy_quick]

I have the feeling I am progressing. Had sex two days in a a raw, both days had about 20-30min piv, not deep constant fucking but still going slow to medium speed and slowing down when feel PONR approaching. When into deep thrusts what I do is when I am almost out, let's say only my glans is still inside I kind of do very light RK and feel my PF relaxing, then I thrust in again. When out I relax the PF, and so on. This technique when done in missionary helps me to last few minutes.
What also helped me was talking to her in the beginning. This helps me relax. In would say how nice it is inside her, how wet she is, just taking dirty. This seems to distruct me from the sensation down there.
All in all I am very positive.

Forgot to add. Used the FL to edge. It feels nice and what I like is that it really stimulates all part of my penis. Especially the glans and under it where I am most sensitive. It was even hard to move inside but I started getting the hang of it. I can say this was of great help. I will no longer edge with hand. Advice to all guys who edge. Get a FL, it makes huge difference. Only after 3 times using it I can say it is of great help with getting used to stimulation.