Totally stuck. No improvement for almost a year!

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Hi. I've been lurking here a while, and I'm only often active here for short amounts of time (When I get stuck in my ways of trying to improve pre-e)... The thing is, I've been fighting this for about 18 months, but I'm still where I was at 1 year ago. My pre-e has become slightly better during these 18 months, but this last year has really been a rollercoaster. Some days everything goes superb, some other days I tend to get to the PONR within 1min.
Nowadays my routine looks like the following:
100-200 kegels / reverse kegels / root locks / reverse root locks - Respectively - Daily
Edging for as long as possible, preferably without orgasming (Always 30+ min, but sometimes 2hours or more).

The things I've tried earlier are:
Ballooning
Wet jelqing
Dry jelqing
Stopped porn for 12months
Even tried those Cock Hero movies during last months (Though I stopped since they gave me no progress)

I do workout, though not as often as I would like to be able. And I use breathing techniques during sex and edging.

I'm totally lost. When I started this I thought maximum 1 year until I would be cured, but this problem is still here, and it's making me pissed. When I'm having sex with my gf (Who has stayed with me during all this time) I don't feel nervous or anxious at all about the sex, but I still reach the PONR too fast.

My idea now was to stop edging, stop porn (like all of it, not even go to websites where I know I might happen to look at bikini-models or anything), and only focus on kegels to try and become MMO.

Anyone having any other tips? Has there evolved some super-cure during the 4 months I've been inactive?
Thankful for answers!

[Dangler Senior Administrator☼ Wizard ☼ White Tiger Award 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Dangler]

Maybe talk with your partner about ways that can be used to make you last longer ?

[Insomnia Member Find all posts View Profile Close Insomnia]

Maybe talk with your partner about ways that can be used to make you last longer ?

Yeah, done that as well. I last longer on my back with her on top, so that's usually how we do it. With a few exceptions for other positions.
But other than that there really seems to be nothing wrong with the sex itself

[pegaso79 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close pegaso79]

Hi. I've been lurking here a while, and I'm only often active here for short amounts of time (When I get stuck in my ways of trying to improve pre-e)... The thing is, I've been fighting this for about 18 months, but I'm still where I was at 1 year ago. My pre-e has become slightly better during these 18 months, but this last year has really been a rollercoaster. Some days everything goes superb, some other days I tend to get to the PONR within 1min.
Nowadays my routine looks like the following:
100-200 kegels / reverse kegels / root locks / reverse root locks - Respectively - Daily
Edging for as long as possible, preferably without orgasming (Always 30+ min, but sometimes 2hours or more).

The things I've tried earlier are:
Ballooning
Wet jelqing
Dry jelqing
Stopped porn for 12months
Even tried those Cock Hero movies during last months (Though I stopped since they gave me no progress)

I do workout, though not as often as I would like to be able. And I use breathing techniques during sex and edging.

I'm totally lost. When I started this I thought maximum 1 year until I would be cured, but this problem is still here, and it's making me pissed. When I'm having sex with my gf (Who has stayed with me during all this time) I don't feel nervous or anxious at all about the sex, but I still reach the PONR too fast.

My idea now was to stop edging, stop porn (like all of it, not even go to websites where I know I might happen to look at bikini-models or anything), and only focus on kegels to try and become MMO.

Anyone having any other tips? Has there evolved some super-cure during the 4 months I've been inactive?
Thankful for answers!

Stop all regular kegels and concentrate just on reverse kegels. Do them every other day. You can add the regular kegels later.
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[Jay1983 Senior MemberMember of the Month Apr 2014, Sept 2016 Find all posts View Profile Close Jay1983]

Yup, do reverse kegels for a while, and learn how to control your arousal levels.

[Insomnia Member Find all posts View Profile Close Insomnia]

Stop all regular kegels and concentrate just on reverse kegels. Do them every other day. You can add the regular kegels later.
We have similar story .

And this worked for you?

Yup, do reverse kegels for a while, and learn how to control your arousal levels.

I believe I know my arousal level, though I have trouble controlling them. I'll check that out!

[Jay1983 Senior MemberMember of the Month Apr 2014, Sept 2016 Find all posts View Profile Close Jay1983]

You need to learn how to push away PONR with reverse kegels, during edging. Once you get the hang of it, you can use the method during sex.

The idea of edging isn't just stopping stimulation when PONR nears, it's learning the trick to push away PONR, with the use of reverse kegels, during continued stimulation, IMO.

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Have you ever tried the Fleshlight STU (Stamina Training Unit)? Some people say it works wonders..

[Insomnia Member Find all posts View Profile Close Insomnia]

You need to learn how to push away PONR with reverse kegels

Yeah, I've practiced that a lot, but it could probably get better.
So I should stop doing normal kegels and root locks and only do reverse kegels and reverse root locks? Should I continue edging or stop it for a while until my reverse kegels get stronger?

[pegaso79 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close pegaso79]

Yeah, I've practiced that a lot, but it could probably get better.
So I should stop doing normal kegels and root locks and only do reverse kegels and reverse root locks? Should I continue edging or stop it for a while until my reverse kegels get stronger?

I was like you. Able to edge for hours and it was happening exactly the same. Till three months ego I stop all regular kegels, and im doing find now.
I just started to add the regular kegels to my routine, but may be I should stop because the sensitivity is coming back. In till don't know what to do.

[thenewdude Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close thenewdude]

May I ask your age because it does make a huge difference where high testosterone level cause even cause pre-e believe it or not. Sometimes it don't really have to do with anything you are doing but just your body. One of the things you can learn to put your mind on during sex is just pleasing your woman which after a while will relieve some of the intensified arousal state your body is in putting your mind else where.

And, please you are doing too many kegels. I do 3 sets of 50 for five second holds maybe 3 times per week. You don't need a whole lot to keep the floor muscles toned. It may help you contain the ejaculation but it is not solution.

[Griff99 Member Find all posts View Profile Close Griff99]

May I ask your age because it does make a huge difference where high testosterone level cause even cause pre-e believe it or not. Sometimes it don't really have to do with anything you are doing but just your body. One of the things you can learn to put your mind on during sex is just pleasing your woman which after a while will relieve some of the intensified arousal state your body is in putting your mind else where.

And, please you are doing too many kegels. I do 3 sets of 50 for five second holds maybe 3 times per week. You don't need a whole lot to keep the floor muscles toned. It may help you contain the ejaculation but it is not solution.

Are you implying if you have high test you're stuck wit PreE and theres nothing you can do?

[Insomnia Member Find all posts View Profile Close Insomnia]

I was like you. Able to edge for hours and it was happening exactly the same. Till three months ego I stop all regular kegels, and im doing find now.
I just started to add the regular kegels to my routine, but may be I should stop because the sensitivity is coming back. In till don't know what to do.

Tips on a reverse kegel routine?

[MrB8 Senior Member Member of the Month Nov 2013 Find all posts View Profile Close MrB8]

Tips on a reverse kegel routine?

Kegels: Only One Piece of the Equation to Strengthen the Pelvic Floor

Yoga Poses for Pelvic Floor Stretching - relax your muscles

Confusion with Reverse Kegels

Pelvic Floor Balance

Balance is the key to a strong and healthy pelvic floor, if you do kegels you have to do reverse kegels as well and vice versa.

[Jay1983 Senior MemberMember of the Month Apr 2014, Sept 2016 Find all posts View Profile Close Jay1983]

Yeah, I've practiced that a lot, but it could probably get better.
So I should stop doing normal kegels and root locks and only do reverse kegels and reverse root locks? Should I continue edging or stop it for a while until my reverse kegels get stronger?

Honestly, I don't even know what you're talking about. Root lock? Uhhh? If you're referring to a guide that is here on gym somewhere, I've hardly read any of them. But don't let that discourage you.

The RK that I do, is that push that one does to make their urine stream more bold. I'm assuming this is considered a front RK. I refrain from doing a back RK during sex, because we all know what it would be like to fart during sex, although it would surely push away PONR lol

All doing a RK kegel does, is it relaxes your PC muscle. Having a tense/flexed PC muscle, heightens stimulation, squeezes the prostrate, and causes ejaculation.

IMO, I wouldn't stop doing regular kegels, but I would sure focus on doing reverse kegels more, so that you can learn how to indeed be in complete control of when and how your PC muscle flexes, so that you can be in complete control of when you ejaculate, no matter the stimulation you are receiving.