Totally stuck. No improvement for almost a year!

[Insomnia Member Find all posts View Profile Close Insomnia]

May I ask your age...

19

Honestly, I don't even know what you're talking about. Root lock? Uhhh?

From Minutemans DO/MMO guide. Rootlock, I believe refers to back kegel. And reverse rootlock is a back reverse kegel.

And yes, I know what a kegel / reverse kegel does. I just don't dont really have a clue on a good routine with a focus on the reverse ones.

[Jay1983 Senior MemberMember of the Month Apr 2014, Sept 2016 Find all posts View Profile Close Jay1983]

From Minutemans DO/MMO guide. Rootlock, I believe refers to back kegel. And reverse rootlock is a back reverse kegel.

And yes, I know what a kegel / reverse kegel does. I just don't dont really have a clue on a good routine with a focus on the reverse ones.

Well neither do I, because I just do my kegels whenever I think about them. Seems to work for me lol

[OneHandedWarrior Member Find all posts View Profile Close OneHandedWarrior]

You're obviously able to edge for a long enouhg time but when you edge do you stay around PoNR or completely stay away from it? Also how aware are you of your involuntary kegels?

[Insomnia Member Find all posts View Profile Close Insomnia]

You're obviously able to edge for a long enouhg time but when you edge do you stay around PoNR or completely stay away from it? Also how aware are you of your involuntary kegels?

Of course I try to stay as far away from it as possible without losing my erection, though I fear I'm a bit too close at times. And yes I'm aware of the involountaries, which I counter by holding a reverse kegel

[OneHandedWarrior Member Find all posts View Profile Close OneHandedWarrior]

Of course I try to stay as far away from it as possible without losing my erection, though I fear I'm a bit too close at times. And yes I'm aware of the involountaries, which I counter by holding a reverse kegel

The thing I used to do wrong before was that I stayed around PoNR for pretty much my entire edging sessions which didn't bring much results and probably only made my problem worse. So for a month or two now I've been really focusing on staying in a pleasurable yet controllable "zone" which seems to have really brough much more progress. I still come to close every now and then but I'm in much better control now and I'm also very aware of just what brings me closer and how to counter it. However some people tend to edge without much sensation which also seems to slow down progress. So try to stay on a pleasurable level yet managable if you already haven't tried that. Ammonite has a great thread on this which was a real eye opener for me.

Also if I were you I'd invest in a Fleshlight as it's really helped me and it gives you a better grasp of how the real thing will feel.

Lately I've been doing sessions with my Fleshlight where I only use it for a short time then I switch to edging for 20+ minutes by hand. I do this in hopes of pushing the rate of which I reach my initial PoNR away and so far I can easily go for 10+ minutes with the Fleshlight without problem. I gradually increase the time I edge with the fleshlight in order to not get back to where I could barely go for 1 minute. If you're not planning on getting a fleshlight you could probably adjust your grip a bit to make it more intense so try it out and see if it helps

Other than that you should keep practicing reverse kegels and kegels but you might wanna cut out the regular kegels for a while, you could also start streching a bit and trying to desensitize your glans by rubbing them and or using the showerhead. One final thing try to really focus on what you feel when you edge as awareness=control (atleast in my case)

[Mrs. workin_4_it Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Mrs. workin_4_it]

Have you tried edging inside of your partner? I have helped my hubby that way or by giving him a show while he is edging. It's always a win win for both of us.

[ammonite Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ammonite]

OHW put it very well with regards to edging. Basically, if you perform too much start-stop, you are simply reinforcing the habit of reaching the PONR too quickly, but on the other hand, if you "stay as far from the PONR as possible", there aren't many pleasurable sensations, and so edging is nothing like sex so results will not transfer over to sex. You need to find a fine line between pleasure and control.

Here is the thread in question - https://www.pegym.com/forums/prematu...aculation.html

[Insomnia Member Find all posts View Profile Close Insomnia]

Have you tried edging inside of your partner? I have helped my hubby that way or by giving him a show while he is edging. It's always a win win for both of us.

Not quite sure I understand to 100%. You mean by having slow penetrative sex that won't get me to the PONR immediately?

[JamesMonroe Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close JamesMonroe]

Stop regular kegels. Reverse kegels only. Don't masturbate to porn. Try dry death grip. Balloon most sensitive spots. Have sex often. Don't sit on hard surface when masturbating. Lay totally flat or stand up.
Good luck.

[bozocore56 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close bozocore56]

I've always lasted a long time, but after thrusting non stop, something you know if you continue you're gonna cum, yet your partner has not yet orgasmed.... Although I did last longtime I could not thrust non stop.

Last year I discovered reverse kegel, I was stunned, I could thrust non stop, no matter what level of arousal I was. I edged and reverse kegeled all the time. I was single for a while and each time I had sex with some women I would struggle for getting an erection. I think my pelvic floor was then sooooo relaxed it was hard to get aroused. Two weeks ago I was with this hoooooooooooooot girl. I Had some big time trouble getting it up and I even lost it while making love.

I though... well I'm screwed... then I realised my problem, REGULAR KEGEL only MORE YOU MOFO !!

5 minutes ago I was edging and my erection stayed for a much longer time without stimulation, than 3-4 weeks ago.

Bottom line : I think we have opposite problems, You gotta do only reverse kegel, And I gotta do only regular kegel.

I may be wrong but I may be right and I think this is wroth a try !

good luck amigo

[OnMyWayThere Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close OnMyWayThere]

I do not recommend stopping edging. Try to make sure you're not instinctively kegeling when you're having sex. As people are saying.

You could try a reverse kegel only routine, but I'd recommend that you instead just follow minuteman's do guide, which I saw you mention: https://www.pegym.com/forums/prematu...asm-guide.html

[JamesMonroe Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close JamesMonroe]

Everyone has to find the the right balance of how many of each to do. Most people need more rev than reg. I suggest people totally stop reg kegels while they learn rev kegels. You gotta reset the system before fixing it.

[SeratoBeats Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close SeratoBeats]

Your issue could possibly be a chemical one.

Experiment with supplementation, ex: seratonin zinc magnesium etc..

Also high histamine has been a known issue as well

I'm truly beginning to believe that many who have dedicated much time to exercise and have seen no improvement even though confidence has gone up and anxiety has gone down can possibly be a hidden chemical issue in the brain

Just my thoughts

[SeratoBeats Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close SeratoBeats]

Sorry, to add

You do 100-200 kegels and all these other reverse kegels and what not all in one day? Do you do this every day? If not how often.


You could be very well fatiguing the shit out of your pelvic floor which is no wonder you can't last any longer.

Also, try getting rid of the regular kegels all together and add in penis stretching.

Good luck!

[adios01 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close adios01]

@jamesmonroe
How was ur routine like when u had constant sex?? Did u do edging despite u were getting laid constantly? Ive been having sex quite often coz i got a new young gf and shes always keen but ive stopped the exercises for a while and i come quick again..

people say u shudnt make ur dick tired by working on it too much but is sex included as an 'exercise'? Im just not sure if i shud include deathgrip edging even jf im getting laid..
and i still cant get the hang of front and back rk..as well as not being able to breathe normally as i have to tense my abs when i do any tips on isolating them?