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  • #31
    Hello Hopeful. Your routine looks good. I see you have progressed to 800 s2s this month. I suggest you keep the same progression up to 1000. Then stick there for 30 days. Measure now, and then after 30 days of 1000 s2s. Have you done any penis massage? Any Reverse Kegels, Hindi Squats, other yoga stretches? With the kegels it would be a good idea to add these.

    I would also do some jelqs. I think jelqs should stay in a routine always. Even the jelq free routine can benefit from jelqs and massage. Lol don't tell Al.

    Ads was the only thing that helped my flaccid length. Phallosan Forte helped my flaccid grow. I am a hell of a grower. My flaccid still will be only 2-4 inches long. I am ordering parts for my Phallosan and I will gain in flaccid again that way.
    ALL THE WAY WITH GOOD OLE JAY!

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Wishful10x8 View Post
      Hello Hopeful. Your routine looks good. I see you have progressed to 800 s2s this month. I suggest you keep the same progression up to 1000. Then stick there for 30 days. Measure now, and then after 30 days of 1000 s2s. Have you done any penis massage? Any Reverse Kegels, Hindi Squats, other yoga stretches? With the kegels it would be a good idea to add these.

      I would also do some jelqs. I think jelqs should stay in a routine always. Even the jelq free routine can benefit from jelqs and massage. Lol don't tell Al.

      Ads was the only thing that helped my flaccid length. Phallosan Forte helped my flaccid grow. I am a hell of a grower. My flaccid still will be only 2-4 inches long. I am ordering parts for my Phallosan and I will gain in flaccid again that way.
      Thanks Wishful. Alright, I will increase to 1000 s2s tonight. I have 4 more exercises left before cycle 1 is done. Then I'll take a 1 week break and do another cycle of the jelq free routine.

      To answer your questions:
      - Penis massage: No
      - Hindi squats: No (I do regular squats sometimes when I workout)
      - Kegels: Yes (after every PE exercise)
      - Reverse Kegels: Yes (right after the kegels)

      I received a pm from theGOAT. He noticed I'm struggling to gain in length and he sent me this link:
      https://www.pegym.com/forums/pe-theo...explained.html

      I read all of it and found out that my tunica is the problem. I don't have weak erections. My erection problems are mental, caused by insecurity and fear, because of my size.

      - The hardness of my erections range between 9-10. Depends on how horny I am. So, my smooth muscle is not the reason I'm not gaining in length. If I'm not hard enough it's always a mental.
      - The difference between my BPFSL and BPEL is very small 0.2" (0,5 cm), which suggests the tunica is at its limit when erect.

      This means I should be focusing more on length-type exercises, but girth-type exercises like squeezing, clamping, and Ulis also workout both the smooth muscle and the tunica, so I'm not going to give those up.
      Start 9/'16...11/'16...1/'17

      NBPEL: 5.9 (15)...6.1 (15,5)...6.1 (15,5)
      BEG: 4.7 (12)...4.9 (12,5)...5.0 (12,8)
      FL: 3.54 (9)....3.54 (9)...3.54 (9)
      FG: 3.54 (9)...3.94 (10)...3.94 (10)

      Goal: NBPEL 7.3 (18,5) BEG 5.5 (14)

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      • #33
        To be honest, I really believe your size is good and its nothing to be ashame for, seriously.You shouldnt feel unsecure.Of course, go for that schlong, I`m aiming for big dick too, but don`t be insecure, you are fine.

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        • #34
          Rest day (17-01-2017)

          Day 16: (18-01-2017)

          * 50 x 5sec erect squeezes
          * 1000 x S2S stretches (1 rep = touching 1 side)

          Rest day (19-01-2017)
          HopefulPersistant
          Senior Member
          Last edited by HopefulPersistant; 02-13-2017, 02:57 PM.
          Start 9/'16...11/'16...1/'17

          NBPEL: 5.9 (15)...6.1 (15,5)...6.1 (15,5)
          BEG: 4.7 (12)...4.9 (12,5)...5.0 (12,8)
          FL: 3.54 (9)....3.54 (9)...3.54 (9)
          FG: 3.54 (9)...3.94 (10)...3.94 (10)

          Goal: NBPEL 7.3 (18,5) BEG 5.5 (14)

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          • #35
            After 5 weeks of doing the jelq free routine I'm gonna take a week or 2 off. Maybe do some edging and kegeling sometimes for EQ and try to quit porn for real.

            I measured everything and it seems I gained a little in girth.

            After 5 weeks jelq free:
            FL - 9 cm (3,54") no gains
            FG - 10 cm (3,94") +0,5 cm (+0.2")
            NPBEL - 15,5 cm (6.10") no gains
            BEG - 12,8 cm (5.04") +0,3 cm (+0.12")BPFSL - 16,8 cm (6.61") first measure
            HopefulPersistant
            Senior Member
            Last edited by HopefulPersistant; 01-22-2017, 04:54 PM.
            Start 9/'16...11/'16...1/'17

            NBPEL: 5.9 (15)...6.1 (15,5)...6.1 (15,5)
            BEG: 4.7 (12)...4.9 (12,5)...5.0 (12,8)
            FL: 3.54 (9)....3.54 (9)...3.54 (9)
            FG: 3.54 (9)...3.94 (10)...3.94 (10)

            Goal: NBPEL 7.3 (18,5) BEG 5.5 (14)

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            • #36
              It's incredibly hard for me to stay positive and to block negative thoughts about my size and about being sexually inactive. Whenever I take a leak I look at my dick and feel disappointed and sad. It's horrible. I got anxiety again just from watching a romantic scene from some random movie, but luckily it wasn't severe as before so I'm okay. I was doing really well for a couple of days, felt relaxed, like I'm healing, but I'm just reminded by it constantly in different situations and the negative thoughts start taking over.

              My week off from PE ends today. I plan on starting another jelq free cycle tomorrow. It feels wrong not PEing. Got to keep at it, because doing nothing will change nothing and I can't accept this size. No amount of talking and positive thinking can change that. It's just impossible!
              Start 9/'16...11/'16...1/'17

              NBPEL: 5.9 (15)...6.1 (15,5)...6.1 (15,5)
              BEG: 4.7 (12)...4.9 (12,5)...5.0 (12,8)
              FL: 3.54 (9)....3.54 (9)...3.54 (9)
              FG: 3.54 (9)...3.94 (10)...3.94 (10)

              Goal: NBPEL 7.3 (18,5) BEG 5.5 (14)

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              • #37
                Jelq Free - Cycle 2


                Day 1 (28-01-2017)
                * 40 x 5sec erect squeezes
                * 600 x S2S stretches (1 rep = touching 1 side)

                Rest day (29-01-2017)
                HopefulPersistant
                Senior Member
                Last edited by HopefulPersistant; 02-13-2017, 02:56 PM.
                Start 9/'16...11/'16...1/'17

                NBPEL: 5.9 (15)...6.1 (15,5)...6.1 (15,5)
                BEG: 4.7 (12)...4.9 (12,5)...5.0 (12,8)
                FL: 3.54 (9)....3.54 (9)...3.54 (9)
                FG: 3.54 (9)...3.94 (10)...3.94 (10)

                Goal: NBPEL 7.3 (18,5) BEG 5.5 (14)

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                • #38
                  Day 2 (30-01-2017)
                  * 40 x 5sec erect squeezes
                  * 800 x S2S stretches (1 rep = touching 1 side)
                  * 100 fast kegels 30x10sec KG+RK

                  Rest day (31-01-2017)

                  Barely stayed erect during the squeezes. My libido is crashing because I quit porn. I refuse to watch it even for PE. Tried ballooning and edging, 30 mins massaging my unit but couldn't get harder than 40%. Maybe it was because of the 800 s2s stretches.
                  HopefulPersistant
                  Senior Member
                  Last edited by HopefulPersistant; 02-13-2017, 02:56 PM.
                  Start 9/'16...11/'16...1/'17

                  NBPEL: 5.9 (15)...6.1 (15,5)...6.1 (15,5)
                  BEG: 4.7 (12)...4.9 (12,5)...5.0 (12,8)
                  FL: 3.54 (9)....3.54 (9)...3.54 (9)
                  FG: 3.54 (9)...3.94 (10)...3.94 (10)

                  Goal: NBPEL 7.3 (18,5) BEG 5.5 (14)

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                  • #39
                    Day 3 (01-02-2017)
                    * 50 x 5sec erect squeezes
                    * 1000 x S2S stretches (1 rep = touching 1 side)
                    * 100 fast kegels 30x10sec KG+RK

                    Rest day (02-02-2017)
                    HopefulPersistant
                    Senior Member
                    Last edited by HopefulPersistant; 02-13-2017, 02:56 PM.
                    Start 9/'16...11/'16...1/'17

                    NBPEL: 5.9 (15)...6.1 (15,5)...6.1 (15,5)
                    BEG: 4.7 (12)...4.9 (12,5)...5.0 (12,8)
                    FL: 3.54 (9)....3.54 (9)...3.54 (9)
                    FG: 3.54 (9)...3.94 (10)...3.94 (10)

                    Goal: NBPEL 7.3 (18,5) BEG 5.5 (14)

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                    • #40
                      Day 4 (03-02-2017)
                      * 50 x 5sec erect squeezes
                      * 1000 x S2S stretches (1 rep = touching 1 side)
                      * 100 fast kegels 30x10sec KG+RK

                      Rest day (04-01-2017)
                      HopefulPersistant
                      Senior Member
                      Last edited by HopefulPersistant; 02-13-2017, 02:56 PM.
                      Start 9/'16...11/'16...1/'17

                      NBPEL: 5.9 (15)...6.1 (15,5)...6.1 (15,5)
                      BEG: 4.7 (12)...4.9 (12,5)...5.0 (12,8)
                      FL: 3.54 (9)....3.54 (9)...3.54 (9)
                      FG: 3.54 (9)...3.94 (10)...3.94 (10)

                      Goal: NBPEL 7.3 (18,5) BEG 5.5 (14)

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                      • #41
                        Day 5 (05-02-2017)
                        * 50 x 5sec erect squeezes
                        * 1000 x S2S stretches (1 rep = touching 1 side)
                        * 100 fast kegels 30x10sec KG+RK

                        Rest day (06-02-2017)
                        HopefulPersistant
                        Senior Member
                        Last edited by HopefulPersistant; 02-13-2017, 02:54 PM.
                        Start 9/'16...11/'16...1/'17

                        NBPEL: 5.9 (15)...6.1 (15,5)...6.1 (15,5)
                        BEG: 4.7 (12)...4.9 (12,5)...5.0 (12,8)
                        FL: 3.54 (9)....3.54 (9)...3.54 (9)
                        FG: 3.54 (9)...3.94 (10)...3.94 (10)

                        Goal: NBPEL 7.3 (18,5) BEG 5.5 (14)

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                        • #42
                          Day 6 (07-02-2017)
                          * 50 x 5sec erect squeezes
                          * 1000 x S2S stretches (1 rep = touching 1 side)
                          * 100 fast kegels 30x10sec KG+RK

                          Rest day (08-02-2017)
                          HopefulPersistant
                          Senior Member
                          Last edited by HopefulPersistant; 02-13-2017, 02:54 PM.
                          Start 9/'16...11/'16...1/'17

                          NBPEL: 5.9 (15)...6.1 (15,5)...6.1 (15,5)
                          BEG: 4.7 (12)...4.9 (12,5)...5.0 (12,8)
                          FL: 3.54 (9)....3.54 (9)...3.54 (9)
                          FG: 3.54 (9)...3.94 (10)...3.94 (10)

                          Goal: NBPEL 7.3 (18,5) BEG 5.5 (14)

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                          • #43
                            Day 7 (09-02-2017)
                            * 50 x 5sec erect squeezes
                            * 1000 x S2S stretches (1 rep = touching 1 side)
                            * 100 fast kegels 30x10sec KG+RK

                            Rest day (10-02-2017)
                            HopefulPersistant
                            Senior Member
                            Last edited by HopefulPersistant; 02-13-2017, 02:54 PM.
                            Start 9/'16...11/'16...1/'17

                            NBPEL: 5.9 (15)...6.1 (15,5)...6.1 (15,5)
                            BEG: 4.7 (12)...4.9 (12,5)...5.0 (12,8)
                            FL: 3.54 (9)....3.54 (9)...3.54 (9)
                            FG: 3.54 (9)...3.94 (10)...3.94 (10)

                            Goal: NBPEL 7.3 (18,5) BEG 5.5 (14)

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                            • #44
                              Day 8 (11-02-2017)
                              * 50 x 5sec erect squeezes
                              * 1000 x S2S stretches (1 rep = touching 1 side)
                              * 100 fast kegels 30x10sec KG+RK

                              Rest day (12-02-2017)
                              HopefulPersistant
                              Senior Member
                              Last edited by HopefulPersistant; 02-13-2017, 02:54 PM.
                              Start 9/'16...11/'16...1/'17

                              NBPEL: 5.9 (15)...6.1 (15,5)...6.1 (15,5)
                              BEG: 4.7 (12)...4.9 (12,5)...5.0 (12,8)
                              FL: 3.54 (9)....3.54 (9)...3.54 (9)
                              FG: 3.54 (9)...3.94 (10)...3.94 (10)

                              Goal: NBPEL 7.3 (18,5) BEG 5.5 (14)

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                              • #45
                                Day 9 (13-02-2017)
                                * 50 x 5sec erect squeezes
                                * 10 x 10sec tension stretch
                                * 100 fast kegels 30x10sec KG+RK

                                Rest day (14-02-2017)

                                Switched the s2s stretch with the tension stretch, because I wasn't gaining anything at all after 7 weeks of s2s stretching. I feel something going on after the workout on the bottom side of my shaft, right behind my balls. That part has endured the stretching it seems. It's not pain.
                                HopefulPersistant
                                Senior Member
                                Last edited by HopefulPersistant; 02-13-2017, 02:55 PM.
                                Start 9/'16...11/'16...1/'17

                                NBPEL: 5.9 (15)...6.1 (15,5)...6.1 (15,5)
                                BEG: 4.7 (12)...4.9 (12,5)...5.0 (12,8)
                                FL: 3.54 (9)....3.54 (9)...3.54 (9)
                                FG: 3.54 (9)...3.94 (10)...3.94 (10)

                                Goal: NBPEL 7.3 (18,5) BEG 5.5 (14)

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