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  • #16
    Originally posted by Gold House View Post
    Update: I took Thursday and Friday off to make sure I was feeling better. I've completed two workouts in a row since without any issue. I realized posting daily wasn't productive as nothing is changing day to day.

    I'll continue to do my workout as described above until at least day 45. I'm almost halfway there at this point. My EQ is still about where it was to start this process. I haven't measured but don't think there are any gains there. Although my flaccid hang is better and there are more visible veins at times. Hopefully those are signs of things to come.

    Day 20 of no porn. Although I had a dream that was very porn like so that was a little discouraging but I didn't actually view porn.
    i think the erotic dream is a good sign. your mind is taking over. isn't it a good thing for the desires to be coming from within not from porn?

    by the way keep it up you're doing good.
    goal--Contentment
    proactive's progress log

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    • #17
      Well I have still been tugging away and last night I had a good erection which is encouraging. Nothing to be too excited about as it's still a struggle overall.

      I have successfully completed a month without porn. I do actually think it has caused a decline in my EQ but I still think that is better in the long run compared to artificially creating erections through porn.

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      • #18
        Still at it with the same routine as above.

        10 minutes of heat
        15 minutes of stretching in all directions including circular (hold stretch for roughly 15 seconds)
        15 minutes of wet jelqing - I tend to do this at a higher erection level than is probably recommended as that is the only way I feel the ballooning in the tip as I stroke upwards.
        5-10 minutes of heating pad with kegels. Still do not know how to do a proper reverse kegel.

        Roughly every third workout I'll edge with ejectulation.

        The day after my previous post I woke up to morning wood again but since that day it has not happened since That was probably the last time I had a good erection which is discouraging.

        I've been at this for over a month now. Getting in (5) 45 minute workouts per week and I don't feel I've had any improvements. It is discouraging when I read the posts about .5 inch gains in one month etc.

        I haven't measured but I believe that there is no improvement there and I can't really check with the low EQ. So far failing on both fronts. Hopefully don't want to end up as a non-gainer after a years work.

        We shall see...

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        • #19
          If your EQ is declining and morning wood has disappeared, them back off your PE a few days & re-start doing a 1off/1on (every other day) routine. In PE LESS is MORE for some guys! Pay attention to your body's signals. Those are BOTH negative PI's, so reduce your PE work until EQ & a.m. wood returns.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by jockinthebox View Post
            If your EQ is declining and morning wood has disappeared, them back off your PE a few days & re-start doing a 1off/1on (every other day) routine. In PE LESS is MORE for some guys! Pay attention to your body's signals. Those are BOTH negative PI's, so reduce your PE work until EQ & a.m. wood returns.
            I agree that those are definitely negative PI's but my issue is that those issues existed prior to PE. That is why my goal for the 2017 challenge for quarter 1 was to improve my EQ. I read that jelqing can do that at times. I don't expect you to know that it was an issue prior to, so I appreciate your feedback. It does make it difficult to know if I'm overtraining since my baseline without any PE would be in the "lots of negative PI's/need to reduce PE work" group.

            At 25 and in fairly good shape it doesn't seem like an issue I should be having and that's why I feel it is mental more than anything so drugs aren't really an option for me.

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            • #21
              PORN detox takes time. You can't expect to recover from poisoning your brain for years with PORN in "a few weeks". Keep a positive attitude, edge consistently, trying to build your time (stamina) while maintaining your erection without ejaculating every day. Have you considered using anal stimulation (like an Aneros device) to help you maintain your erection while edging? Your partner might also "participate" in your edging sessions to help you maintain your erections longer...just a thought. Keep experimenting with alternative (non-drug induced) stimulation techniques to maintain your erections while using your imagination. You will discover your own "triggers" if you keep an open mind and experiment with your emotions & stimulation simultaneously, barring any physical abnormalities, of course.

              Our brains are pivotal to the process of EVERYTHING we do, so keeping a positive mindset, an open and receptive attitude toward "alternative" methods of stimulation can be helpful in your recovery. PORN dependency & it's addictive sub-conscious triggers vary widely from one guy to another. Discovery of your personal triggers is essential to beginning the road to recovery IMO.

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              • #22
                Still going strong (5 days/2days). Any suggestions on new exercises to add (ideally manual?) I haven't seen much gains and I'm now more conditioned with 50 days in. I'm really wanting to gain and I have an hour each day I can dedicate.

                Currently I only do manual stretches and wet jelqing. Plus kegels.

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                • #23
                  Still at it strong going 5 out of 7 days each week. I did have a relapse of porn for a single day which is unfortunate but I'm back at it with no porn.

                  I've been continuing to do a heating pad to warmup. Followed by stretching in all directions (hold for 20 seconds) including "around the world" stretches both clockwise and counterclockwise. I then complete a series of wet jelqs and finally finish with the heating pad.

                  I'm about 2 months in with no visible signs of improvement (measuring or EQ improvements). I want to begin adding to my routine in the coming month.

                  Any suggestions out there?

                  My goal is to work at it consistently for 1 year (261 hours of PE) before assessing if it is worth the effort. If I don't have any gains or improvements it just isn't worth the time commitment.

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                  • #24
                    Time to switch up the routine. I'm going to go with Big Al's "Jelq Free" routine which can be found (https://www.pegym.com/forums/penis-e...e-routine.html).

                    I think I'll add some basic stretches along with kegels. The workout itself goes quicker than my previous one. We shall see.

                    With the squeezes...do you do an average grip, hard grip etc?

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                    • #25
                      Had any success with the eq since quitting porn?

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                      • #26
                        I actually fell of the wagon with the quitting of porn. I'm recommitting myself (as of yesterday). I watched a couple Ted Talks thanks to wishful10x8 and see that it can take 4-6 months to get back to normal.

                        I had gone 70+ days without porn but there wasn't much of a EQ increase.

                        I definitely have felt the fatigue with the jelq free routine so that is positive. I'm adding edging with only infrequent release (once a week). I'll report back...

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                        • #27
                          So I've been on my new routine for about a month. Also been doing some type of PE for 4 months.

                          The current routine is as followed:

                          10 minute warmup with heating pad
                          10-25 squeezes as described in Big Al's Jelq free routine
                          500-750 side to side stretches.
                          10 minute cool down with heating pad with few (less than 20) kegels.

                          Tried to measure today but there were zero gains at all. EQ seems like it is still pretty bad. Being young I don't want to do any sort of pills but that might be inevitable at this point.

                          No porn for the past 2 weeks. Will be looking to get at least to 6 months to see if I can get my brain reconditioned. Porn was always a once per day. Not good but not crazy excessive.

                          Any suggestions on routine? I'm looking to gain both length and girth. I can commit but I want gains so BAD.

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                          • #28
                            One measurement that I can consistently do is BPFLS which was 7.00 in February and has gone up to 7.25 inches as of yesterday.

                            Know the question is; was I pulling harder this time around? I'd say no. But this isn't where I want to gain lol. Doesn't give me any satisfaction if my EL and EG stay the same but I can stretch my penis to 8+ lol.

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                            • #29
                              Even if it doesn't give you any satisfaction it would be cool to be able to stretch over 8". Lol.

                              I just saw your beginning measurements, they're very similar to my measurements. I'm a little taller than you and for me it's cool to find people who's more or less my height with more or less my penis size. Good luck on your PE journey!
                              Initial measurements:
                              BPEL: 6.5" MSEG: 4.9"

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                              • #30
                                Thanks man. Good luck on your journey! I'll take a look at your log to see what you're doing routine wise.

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