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  • #16
    Week 6 down.

    PI's

    29/10: Neutral, no PI's noticed
    30/10: Positive - NW
    31/10: Positive - NW
    1/11: Positive - NW. Spontaneous erections without any physical stimulation (with sexual thoughts, however) now more common
    2/11: Neutral - no PI's noticed
    3/11: Neutral - no PI's notice
    4/11: Neutral/Positive - genuinely can't remember if I had NW. Otherwise, none noticed


    Training Log:

    29/10: JP90 + 15 minute edge. EQ improved.
    30/10: JP90 + 15 minute edge. EQ was weaker, although I trained in morning and it could just be 5 days of consecutive training
    31/10: Rest
    1/11: Rest
    2/11: JP90 + 16 min edge
    3/11: JP90 + 20 min edge. Strong EQ, had to stop stretches to ensure wasn't too high
    4/11: JP90 + 15 min edge. Strong EQ, had to stop stretches again

    Very interesting week. I'm now on a 5-day on, 2-day off roster with JP90. EQ during sessions has boosted considerably, and I think ginkgo biloba and/or L-Citrulline (alternative to L-Arginine) have really helped out here. It has been a fairly marked change.

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    • #17
      Week 7 down.

      PI's
      5/11: Neutral - no PI's noticed
      6/11: Positive - NW
      7/11: Positive - NW
      8/11: Neutral / Positive - genuinely cant remember if I had NW or not
      9/11: Positive - MW
      10/11: Positive - NW
      11/11: Positive - NW & NW


      Training:

      5/11: JP90 + 15 min edge.
      6/11: JP90 + 15 min edge.
      7/11: Rest
      8/11: Rest
      9/11: JP90 + 15 min edge
      10/11: JP90 + 15 min edge
      11/11: JP90 + 15 min edge

      Strong EQ throughout my sessions is now the norm. Hard to say why, but Ginkgo Biloba and L-Citrulline appear to be candidates. I now also have to often rest during my stretches to stop myself from getting erect, as the EQ boost has been that noticeable.

      I definitely don't see the previous issues I had of having to work to keep the EQ levels high throughout my jelqs.

      Progress Check on 9/11: 17.5 - 17.6cm BPEL. Only small progress, but it appears to be taking place. I will measure BPSFL soon. I need to research the forum on best ways to measure EG, as I feel there is too much variation in my current method.

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      • #18
        Week 8 down.

        PI's:
        12/11: Positive - NW
        13/11: Positive - NW
        14/11: Neutral - no PI's noticed
        15/11: Neutral - no PI's noticed
        16/11: Neutral - no PI's noticed
        17/11: Neutral - no PI's noticed (honestly can't remember though)
        18/11: Semi positive - half NW

        Training12/11: JP90 + 15 min edge
        13/11: JP90 + 15 min edge
        14/11: Rest
        15/11: Rest
        16/11: JP90 + 17 min edge. Noticed that EQ was lower, but interestingly it was a morning session prior to consuming L-Citrulline / Ginkgo Biloba that day. Worth noting
        17/11: JP90 + 16 min edge
        18/11: JP90 + 21 min edge

        Over the next week I'll check BPSFL. I find there is a bit of variation here (possible due to the fact it is a bit weird to measure, with one hand stretching and another using a ruler), but I'll log it anyway.

        Generally, I'd say the trend was my EQ was slightly weaker this weak, which matches with the PI's being slightly weaker. If I find this sustains after my 2 day break, I might throw in an extra rest day to ensure I'm not overdoing it. Alternatively, another option would be to cut out ejaculation after an edge session and see how that goes. I'll play it by ear.

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        • #19
          Interestingly, I've just noticed my L-Citrulline container suggests to take 1-3g 2-3 times a day (I'm currently taking 3g once a day) and my Ginkgo Biloba tablets suggest to take one table 3x a day (I'm currently taking one).

          I'm going to increase this to 3g of L-Citrulline twice a day (morning and lunch, instead of just morning) and 2x Ginkgo Biloba (morning and lunch, instead of just morning).

          I'm curious to see how this affects my recovery.

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          • #20
            Week 9 down.

            PI's
            • 19/11: Positive - NW
            • 20/11: Positive - NW/MW. Sexual thoughts alone sufficient to get errection
            • 21/11: Positive - NW/MW
            • 22/11: Positive - NW. Flaccid hang improved
            • 23/11: Positive - NW
            • 24/11: Positive - strong EQ during training. High sex drive
            • 25/11: Neutral - no PI's noticed


            Training
            • 19/11: JP90, forgot to record edge session length, EQ was lower during session. Coupled with lower flaccid hang, I've decided to institute an early rest day tomorrow.
            • 20/11: Rest
            • 21/11: Rest
            • 22/11: JP90 + 15min edge. EQ was lower during jelq's but started to come back during the jelqs. However, I didn't use any porn during the session. Tomorrow, I'm going to reintroduce porn to see how that affects EQ during my session. It may help isolate the root cause of the issue.
            • 23/11: JP90 + 15min edge. EQ was far better, and much stronger during edging. This is with an absolute minimal amount of porn (watched for a couple minutes during my warm-up, and a couple of minutes between stretches and jelqs). Given the minimal amount, I think it is more about me rushing my workouts before I've mentally engaged that what I am doing is pseudo-sexual and requires an erection; rather than needing porn to sustain one (as shown by not requiring it at all during my edging).
            • 24/11: JP90 + 15min edge. Strong EQ. Supports my theory that it is getting in the right mindset, as again used porn during warmup.
            • 25/11: JP90 + 15min edge. EQ slightly weaker during jelq's but fine during edging



            An interesting experiment with the porn. What I may also track is the time of day of my session. I feel I get a different response during evening sessions, and I wonder if that is just that my mind is still racing from everything throughout the day and it may be harder to slip into the right mindset. Who knows though, only tracking the data will tell for sure.

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            • #21
              Week 10 down.

              I should finish the JP90 by the end of the year at this rate, then I'll take a short deconditioning break over Christmas (plus it will just be hard to train while travelling) and I will either pursue a new routine or continue with the JP90 for a little while longer.

              ​PI's
              • 26/11: Neutral, no PI's noticed
              • 27/11: Neutral/Positive - no PI's noticed but good hang
              • 28/11: Neutral/Positive - no PI's noticed, but sexual thoughts alone sufficient to get erection.
              • 29/11: Positive - NW
              • 30/11: Neutral - no PI's noticed. Sex drive high
              • 1/12: Positive - NW
              • 2/12: Positive - NW. Sexual thoughts alone sufficient to get erection


              Training Log:
              • 26/11: JP90 + 15min edge
              • 27/11: Rest
              • 28/11: Rest
              • 29/11: JP90 + 15min edge. EQ was weaker during jelqs but higher during edging. Evening session
              • 30/11: JP90 + 16min edge. EQ was weaker during jelqs and edging. Mid-morning session.
              • 1/12: JP90 + 15min edge. EQ was fine during session. Morning session.
              • 2/12: JP90 + 15min edge. EQ was a bit erratic during session, strong at times then weak at times. Morning session.

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              • #22
                Week 11 down. Getting very close to finishing the JP90 now.

                PI's
                • 3/12: Neutral - no PI's noticed
                • 4/12: Neutral - no PI's noticed
                • 5/12: Positive - NW and MW. Sexual thoughts sufficient to get erection. Very high sex drive
                • 6/12: Neutral - no PI's noticed. Sexual thoughts sufficient to get erection
                • 7/12: Neutral - no PI's noticed. Sexual thoughts sufficient to get erection
                • 8/12: Neutral - no PI's noticed
                • 9/12: Neutral - no PI's noticed. Sex that morning. I noticed my stamina was a bit average when on top, but fine on bottom. I've noticed this before when having morning sex when I feel I need to use the bathroom.


                Training
                • 3/12: JP90 + 15 minute edge
                • 4/12: Rest
                • 5/12: Rest was scheduled, but had 15 minute edge session as sex drive was so high
                • 6/12: JP90 + 15 min edge. EQ was pretty good, a bit low towards end of jelqs
                • 7/12: JP90 + 15min edge
                • 8/12: Inadvertant rest day due to schedule. Rather than adjusting schedule, I've let it slide.
                • 9/12: Sex that morning. JP90 + 15 min edge. Mid morning session (post sex)


                One block of 5 sessions left, and then it is one half-block of sessions before I've finished the 90 days. It coincides pretty perfectly with me needing to travel for the holidays; so I'll take a break around then before getting back into it next year.

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                • #23
                  Week 12. Almost done with the JP90 program.

                  PI's
                  • 10/12/2018: Neutral - no PI's noticed
                  • 11/12/2018: Positive - NW. High sex drive today
                  • 12/12/2018: Positive - NW and MW
                  • 13/12/2018: Neutral - no PI's noticed
                  • 14/12/2018: Neutral - no PI's noticed
                  • 15/12/2018: Neutral/Positive - NW, but can't fully remember
                  • 16/12/2018: Neutral - no PI's noticed


                  Training Log:
                  • 10/12/2018: JP90 + 15min edge. Morning session
                  • 11/12/2018: Rest
                  • 12/12/2018: JP90 + 15min edge. Afternoon session. EQ a touch lower
                  • 13/12/2018: JP90 + 15min edge. Morning session. EQ very strong at beginning, dropped towards last set of jeqls. Fine during edging
                  • 14/12/2018: Unscheduled rest
                  • 15/12/2018: JP90 + 15min edge. Morning session. EQ was pretty strong throughout sets.
                  • 16/12/2018: Unscheduled rest. Sex night of 15th and morning of 16th

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                  • #24
                    Okay, so I have officially finished the JP90 and moved onto the "Jelq Free" routine:

                    ​PI's
                    • 17/12: Positive - MW
                    • 18/12: Positive - partial NW
                    • 19/12: Neutral - no PI's
                    • 20/12: Neutral - no PI's. EQ was low during session so maybe even negative PI's. Given low EQ, I've started my 1 week deconditioning break a couple days ahead of hitting the 90 days.
                    • 21/12: Neutral - no PI's
                    • 22/12: Positive - EQ was 10/10 when edging.
                    • 23/12: Neutral - no PI's
                    • 24/12 - 27/12: Break from PE, but noticed good EQ
                    • 28/12: Neutral - no PI's noticed


                    Training
                    • 17/12: JP90 + 15 min edge. EQ strong throughout sets
                    • 18/12: Rest
                    • 19/12: Rest
                    • 20/12: JP90 + 15min edge. Morning session. EQ was poor
                    • 21/12 - 27/12: Scheduled break from PE
                    • 28/12: Jelq Free routine (10x Squeeze, 200x side-to-side, 15 min edge). Morning session. Good EQ.


                    I intend to increase by 1x squeeze every 2 sessions (akin to a 5% increase per session, on average); and 5x side-to-side every session (akin to a 2.5% increase per session, on average). This is, of course, subject to PI's.

                    I'm 1mm away from hitting the short-term BPEL and EG goals I set out for myself when I started (currently 17.7cm BPEL and 12.6cm EG; which puts me 1mm from 7" BPEL and 5" EG).

                    My new goal for PE is 7.5" BPEL and 5.5" EG.

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                    • #25
                      Another week down.

                      PI's:
                      • 29/12: Neutral - no PI's noticed
                      • 30/12: Neutral - no PI's noticed
                      • 31/12: Neutral - no PI's noticed
                      • 1/1: Neutral - no PI's noticed. Hungover from NYE
                      • 2/1: Neutral - no PI's noticed
                      • 3/1: Positive - NW/MW
                      • 4/1: Neutral - no PI's noticed


                      Training:
                      • 29/12: Rest
                      • 30/12: Jelq Free: 11x Squeeze, 210x Side to side, 18min edge
                      • 31/12: Rest
                      • 1/1: Unscheduled rest due to NYE
                      • 2/1: Rest
                      • 3/1: Jelq Free: 11x Squeeze, 220x Side to Side 15min edge
                      • 4/1: Rest


                      I intend on continuing 1 on, 1 off for a 6 week period with the Jelq Free routine, before taking a week off and back-cycling for another 6 week block.

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                      • #26
                        The PI's have been good this week, which is great. Perhaps it is the additional rest days in the Jelq Free routine, but it is hard to know for sure.

                        PI's
                        • 5/1: Positive - NW/MW
                        • 6/1: Neutral - no PI's noticed
                        • 7/1: Positive - NW
                        • 8/1: Positive - NW
                        • 9/1: Positive - NW
                        • 10/1: Positive - NW
                        • 11/1: Positive/Neutral - genuinely can't recall if I had NW


                        Training
                        • 5/1: 12x Squeeze, 230x Side-to-side, 25min edge
                        • 6/1: Rest
                        • 7/1: 12x Squeeze, 240x Side-to-side, 24 min edge
                        • 8/1: Rest
                        • 9/1: 13x Squeeze, 250x side-to-side, 22 min edge
                        • 10/1: Rest
                        • 11/1: 13x Squeeze, 260x side-to-side, 24 min edge


                        Hopefully all these positive PI's translate to some gains when I next measure for progress.

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                        • #27
                          Another good week down.

                          PI's
                          • 12/1: Positive - MW
                          • 13/1: Positive / Neutral - genuinely can't recall if I had NW
                          • 14/1: Neutral - no PI's noticed
                          • 15/1: Neutral - no PI's noticed
                          • 16/1: Neutral - no PI's noticed. EQ was slightly (only slightly) lower during session. Morning session.
                          • 17/1: Positive - NW
                          • 18/1: Positive - NW


                          Training:
                          • 12/1: Rest
                          • 13/1: Rest
                          • 14/1: 14x Squeeze, 270x Side-to-side, 24min edge
                          • 15/1: Rest
                          • 16/1: 14x Squeeze, 280x Side-to-side, 23min edge
                          • 17/1: Rest
                          • 18/1: 15x Squeeze, 290x Side-to-side, 24min edge


                          3 more weeks on this routine until I take my scheduled break.

                          Measuring on 14/1: BPEL looked like it was 17.7 or 17.8cm, which would imply slight gains which is good. I think 18.4/18.5cm is about my BPEL goal; after which I'll move to a greater focus on girth. On 18/1: My EG was 12.4cm which was lower than what I recorded on 29/11 (12.5cm / 12.6cm); but my EQ was far lower than 10/10 so I'm discounting this for now.

                          I'll check progress again on ~ 9/2 when I'm on my scheduled break.

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                          • #28
                            PI's
                            • 19/1: Positive - partial NW
                            • 20/1: Positive - partial NW
                            • 21/1: Positive - NW/MW
                            • 22/1: Neutral - no PI's noticed
                            • 23/1: Positive - NW. Stamina felt weaker during session, and EQ slightly longer but not materially so.
                            • 24/1: Neutral - no PI's noticed
                            • 24/1: Positive - NW


                            Training
                            • 19/1: Rest
                            • 20/1: Rest
                            • 21/1: 15x Squeeze, 300x side-to-side, 24min edge
                            • 22/1: Rest
                            • 23/1: 16x Squeeze, 310x side-to-side, 24min edge
                            • 24/1: Rest
                            • 24/1: 16x Squeeze, 320x side-to-side, 24min edge


                            Two weeks until the scheduled rest week / progress check. PI's seem on track and training seems good, so hopefully some gains are logged.

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                            • #29
                              So, one more week until scheduled rest / progress week. I can probably start increasing the Squeeze at 1 per session, and still maintain close to ~5% increases. I will start increase the Side-to-side at 15 per session, and maintain close to ~5%. This compares to 1 Squeeze every second session, and 10 Side-to-side's per session.


                              PI's
                              • 26/1: Neutral - no PI's. Libido was super high, so had an extra edging session that day.
                              • 27/1: Positive - partial NW/MW
                              • 28/1: Positive - partial NW/MW
                              • 29/1: Positive - NW
                              • 30/1: Neutral - no PI's. EQ and stamina slightly weaker in session
                              • 31/1: Positive - NW
                              • 1/2: Positive - NW/MW


                              Training
                              • 26/1: Rest
                              • 27/1: Rest
                              • 28/1: 17x Squeeze, 330x Side-to-side, 23min edge
                              • 29/1: Rest
                              • 30/1: 17x Squeeze, 340x Side-to-side, 24min edge
                              • 31/1: Rest
                              • 1/2: 18x Squeeze, 350x Side-to-side, 24min edge

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                              • #30
                                So, I've finished my first cycle of the Jelq Free routine. I've now got a scheduled rest week before I recommence.

                                PI's
                                • 2/2: Positive - NW
                                • 3/2: Neutral - no PI's. Could be due to hangover
                                • 4/2: Neutral - no PI's. Weak EQ during edgeing.
                                • 5/2: Neutral - no PI's
                                • 6/2: Neutral - no PI's. EQ was fine during session
                                • 7/2: Positive - MW
                                • 8/2: Positive - NW


                                Training
                                • 2/2: Rest
                                • 3/2: Rest
                                • 4/2: 19x Squeeze, 350x side-to-side, 15min edge
                                • 5/2: Rest
                                • 6/2: 20x Squeeze, 365x side-to-side, 22min edge
                                • 7/2: Rest
                                • 8/2: 21x Squeeze, 380x side-to-side, 23min edge


                                After a couple of days of rest, I'll check my progress to see if any gains have been made.

                                Given my generally strong PI's throughout the program, there is a risk I may have been undertraining but that should be addressed naturally as I will start the next 6-week cycle at a greater intensity than I started the last one.

                                One experiment I may consider is whether to kegel slightly before I do the squeeze, to maximise bloodflow to the penis before squeezing. I tried that today for a few reps in the squeeze but I may look into it further.

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