Mainly focussed on girth and consistency

[BlueMorpho Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close BlueMorpho]

What's worse is that it's actually affecting the relationship to my current gf. She loves sex and I don't think she cares much about my dick, as long as we have sex.

Food for thought. For everyone on this forum, not just for you. This has been written and re-written about on countless threads... it's a running theme. Women ACTUALLY don't care that much about size. It seems that guys repeatedly forget this truth... but it's there! Just need a constant reminder. Please, don't let this preoccupation with your unit get in the way of intimacy with your girl. That would be a shame, wouldn't it?

But I've seen what happens to girls if men get above a certain level of girth... that life is SO much easier and more fulfilling for both the guy as well as any girl.

You've seen it... where? In porn? Or through casual girl talk you caught here and there? So far as that goes, it's something to take with a huge (sorry!) grain of salt. Talk is cheap, girls may say they want so and so, but when the time rolls around to when the deed actually takes place, I wouldn't wager my money that most of them want it bigger than average. And as for porn, well you know how distorted that 'reality' is.

All this to say that what your GF said is in no way unique. Her attitude reflects what most other intelligent and sane women think and feel: intimacy is way more about the connection to the man, than it could ever be through a body part. And if you were ever to meet women who prioritize penis size over anything else? Run the other way - and fast... they're just a disaster waiting to happen.

But I get it that you feel the need to improve size regardless. If this is something important to you right now, then do what you feel is right. My only advice would be to scale it down. Rather than try to invest more time, put LESS into it. Don't let PE mess with your head. Treat it like you won't depend on it... cultivate the attitude of: "if gains come, great; if they don't then too bad". No need to shed a tear over this, you've already got what seems to be an amazing girl in your life.

[Liam Strong Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Liam Strong]

Food for thought. For everyone on this forum, not just for you. This has been written and re-written about on countless threads... it's a running theme. Women ACTUALLY don't care that much about size. It seems that guys repeatedly forget this truth... but it's there! Just need a constant reminder. Please, don't let this preoccupation with your unit get in the way of intimacy with your girl. That would be a shame, wouldn't it?


You've seen it... where? In porn? Or through casual girl talk you caught here and there? So far as that goes, it's something to take with a huge (sorry!) grain of salt. Talk is cheap, girls may say they want so and so, but when the time rolls around to when the deed actually takes place, I wouldn't wager my money that most of them want it bigger than average. And as for porn, well you know how distorted that 'reality' is.

All this to say that what your GF said is in no way unique. Her attitude reflects what most other intelligent and sane women think and feel: intimacy is way more about the connection to the man, than it could ever be through a body part. And if you were ever to meet women who prioritize penis size over anything else? Run the other way - and fast... they're just a disaster waiting to happen.

But I get it that you feel the need to improve size regardless. If this is something important to you right now, then do what you feel is right. My only advice would be to scale it down. Rather than try to invest more time, put LESS into it. Don't let PE mess with your head. Treat it like you won't depend on it... cultivate the attitude of: "if gains come, great; if they don't then too bad". No need to shed a tear over this, you've already got what seems to be an amazing girl in your life.

I know that it's not important for the vast majority of woman that their bf/husband have an above average penis. My post was never about that.
As a guy, you WILL get different reactions from girls during the funtime, depending on how big you are. And outside of my size, I am pretty confident around girls.
But (loud) moaning, compliments, orgasms and rolling eyes are just much easier to achieve with a an above average member. I'm not talking about the videos that professional actors do. It just goes for everyone.
And if I ever get to that point, I will be another living proof of that

[BlueMorpho Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close BlueMorpho]

Well, great then! You sound like you've got the right attitude going into this.

I may be going off course with this, but something of a pattern I've noticed from people that write about their 'progress or whatever.. and again, not claiming any sort of proof, more like taking down a mental count of observations. So if I had to divide guys who strive for gains into two camps, there's on one side those that strive and obsess and hope and desperately hope - would sell their moms in exchange - for gains to come. It's a caricature, I know, kind of an extreme case scenario...which I surprisingly and unfortunately witnessed on this forum not two weeks ago (of a guy almost going crazy with his PE). On the other camp, is the opposite view of an almost apathetic approach to gains... so those guys are doing PE but either way don't give a damn whether then gain or not, and wouldn't feel better for it if they did. Again, not really realistic... but just for the sake of describing the other extreme.

Obviously the ideal attitude is somewhere in the middle (surprise, surprise)... but I would actually vouch for an attitude that veers further toward the side of the careless attitude. Why? For the same reasons that a man who "doesn't seem to care that much about a particular woman" can actually spark that woman's interest in him, oddly enough. Call it whatever you like, 'The Law of Attraction' or whatever they name it these days... but the fundamentals of it are: want it, but don't want it too badly. Too badly makes the target run away from you; not wanting it enough won't get it started. The patterns I saw in people who PE are that those who are relaxed about it and almost don't give a damn whether gains came or not, are oddly enough the people who made gains. Those who try too hard, extend their sessions, go the extra mile with the effort and expensive equipment... end up forfeiting gains. It's crazy... from a logical standpoint it doesn't make sense. And yet... that's what I've observed from the various posts.

What is without question is that psyche and body are more closely connected than we think. We feel sad? The peen will not be up for good times. Feeling happy or energized? That'll reflect through a solid boner. If I feel invincible, then I'll be sure to beat down an opponent who's double my weight. And if I am inconsolable with grief? I won't stand a chance against a baby hyena. Psychology is everything! A balanced psyche means you're not fighting against the universe to make yourself bigger or better; instead give into it and let it do the worrying for you... if you get my drift. And no, I'm not high!

Don't take my word for it. Try out different psychic states for yourself. Go into your PE with optimism, but don't expect results out of it. If they come, feel grateful... if they don't, don't feel alarmed or disappointed... just means they'll come in their own good time. And sorry for the long post, didn't mean to hog your thread..!