My experience since may 2018

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I haven't been PEing yet, but I want to post a post-pumping/jelqing-edging erection photo from the last time I was doing PE, 2 weeks ago. Sorry for no measured photos, I'm slow with that, I really want some *good* measured photos when I will post them.

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I haven't been stretching at all for quite a while.
I am concentrating on upper shaft girth mainly, at least 0,5cm more and another 0,5cm next session that;s how it seems to me at least, for the rest of this year, or maybe less if I really focus. Glans size too, I've experienced positive results with glans expansion before, I plan to do like Bib said with his "wrapping the glans technique"
I now only edge/pump/jelq/clamp for a FEW minutes becaus the expansion is so great it's almost painful, but it's just very strong IK coming out of nowhere. I do this after long periods of pumping at low hg and a little jelqing to still have the greatest eq. I sort of control the IK while pumping with my hips and standing up. Measuring very often during those minutes is key for me and sometimes I'm amazed. But the real successful sets are those that flare the head up, wich I need to be rested properly to achieve. No more consecutive clamping sets for me at the moment, the expansion and feeling I get from what I'm doing is enough to make gains. Long low vacuum sets are the most important aspect I can point out for now, because I was pumping and clamping on separate occasions and I was definitely not feeling/seeing this. I know it's a bunch of fluid there, but I could never get so much fluid accumulated from them alone in separate days, So there must something there.
I've only done this right 2 times this year, and never last year or the years before, I managed to try it 3-4 times maybe since 2021 started, It's the best thing I could come up so far, it's not that I gain slow, or maybe I do, but I think the mental aspect is something I need to get in control more often.
I've also started a meditation routine, with breathing exercise. I've been doing this only a few times/week, now I want to do them everyday, 3 or more times.

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That said, edging is the most important thing I'm doing now and I'm in love with it, porn or no porn, I watch a lot of lesbian porn and solo gorgeous/camgirls, but I edge without them too.

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I managed to edge for 5 total hours last night (probably around 6-7 hours with breaks), had 1 dry orgasm and another 2 orgasms delayed with RK, one with regular K. I ejaculated at the end of the session so hard, my hole unit felt fatigued after. FWIW, this was after 1 mdma pill + 50mg sildenafil (2 hours and a half) and another mdma pill + 50mg sildenafil (another 2 hours and a half edging).
I know it was "chemically induced", but I still call this progress, I never did this in my life, not even close.
About that dry orgasm, I had it before maybe twice, I got some prescription meds from my urologist a few years ago wich had this side effect of retrograde ejaculation. I didn't like it at all, it felt weird AF. This last one though, wich was also unintended, felt like it was "timed well" and I could continue edging immediately after, with no discomfort.
So, basically I had my first succesful dry orgasm.

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BPFSL surprisingly stuck to this day, measured 23cm bone pressed in the middle on the top just trying it once.
I haven't been stretching at all for more than 2 weeks, started today. I only edged, pumped, and ocasionally a small set of clamping. I started to clamp less and I realize it's more because of lazyness than because I wouldn't need it anymore. Results were a lot better when I was doing two or more clamping sets after one or two long, low hg pump sets. With pumping and edging only, my EQ was lower somehow without the short clamping sets(it was great), and the expansion was better too(good expansion without clamping as well, except for the glans and general dick hardness). Can't complain though, I take my time to condition my glans first, and the rest of my shaft + skin before going into a serious girth routine again. I haven't felt like it so I've been doing 15-40m pumping, 15-40m edging less and less these last 2 weeks.

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I only stretched 5 or 6 times against the ruler, 15 sec at most, less than that most of them. The fatigue I'm getting is something I want to get more in tune with, the turtling effect that might come after a hard stretch as well.
I think if I juggle with these more, I can get hard early after some bpfsl gains and maybe focus my attention on the tunica and upper shaft, glans gains. This, I think, might bring me closer to gaining bpel easier, getting EQ better faster, and being more aware of it in general. I noticed I really don't need much effort to move up the ruler from where I am now, with all the pressing and positioning of the ruler, I still think I'm gaining only from pulling the glans exclusively, without hurting it and as hard as I can in the direction of my erection, straight out mostly. So my guess is I need to focus on gaining bpel right there when I make the bpfsl gap longer than 1,5cm, if that is even possible of course, maybe. I am not in a rush or something, I just think it's the way I have to perform it in order to work.

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I think I understand why I like clamping so much and why it feels so good, and gives the best expansion in mm with the less amount of fluid and more amount of blood and buldging veins, when done right.
I noticed a contraction that I can really strengthen out to my advantage. After I get used with clamping for a few days, a few minutes every day is enough if I do it right, then I get some serious expansion and very hard IK when I clamp again, but it's mostly from my wrapping technique, getting closer and closer to the lowest base possible, wich I keep missing for some reason every now and then with my fingers and with a smaller tube when pumping (2" tube is impossible to manage now). Grabbing that lowest base possible gives that best expansion I was talking about, it also gives out a good amount of blood with just a couple of strokes to keep a good erection going. It also helps to prevent Ponr with a little squeeze.
I think the way I used to wrap for clamping maybe 60% of the time was limiting my potential for expansion for this reason. The 2" tube as well, I was barely reaching 21cm maxing out in it, bought a toy pump wich tapered towards the end with a 2,25" base opening, I was reaching 23cm maxing it out. I get both length and girth expansion when I grab the base like that and hold it right.

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Wasn't careful enough, wasn't using my ointments regularly, so I just got a couple of pimples on the underside of the shaft, interesting how they appeared now and there, they used to appear on the top of the shaft, more towards the base and now it's on the upper shaft. I haven't had any pimples, blisters and any other skin injuries in ages, 2 months at least, wich really does seem like a lot to me knowing that I used to get them on my 4th-5th consecutive girth day, and they would heal slow too. Now they heal fast, 1-3 days at most, and I never get them in the places I used to before, the skin looks better since I started to do PE better, edging and pumping are very different for me now than they were when I started, as far as skin injuries go they are a hole lot better, actually.

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Sorry for the pic, I just wanted to make a quick update, not a measured, tracking progress album.
I started stretching again today. I don't even hold the stretch for 30 sec and it feels productive.
I want to make a quick note, something I've been noticing ever since I started stretching. There's a point where I guess I enter that elastic zone/gain a few mm bpfsl, with just a few good stretches, straight out/the direction of my erection with maybe a slight upward pull towards the end of the stretch, in order to pull harder for a few second before releasing the grip, when I rest and get a "tinglish" sensation, wich I used to think is a slight IK, but it isn't, that feels refreshing, like blood is slowly coming back in a slightly heavier quantity towards the glans.

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Actually, the strong IK I was reffering to eventually came along like it used to. With no stretching done before, I decided to kegel and reverse kegel to an erection, watching porn. No edging, just kegeling and maybe a slight jelq here and there, just to move the skin a bit and provide a little friction.
The IK came back actually very strong, but it's not a regular IK, it's a loooong, heavy type reverse kegel that continues without me controlling it, kind of like a fatigue of sorts.
So I trigger this feeling with either good stretching holding the glans or maybe abstaining from edging and ejaculation for 2 days in row, or both. I will call it a "gaining type of feeling", like I used to before actually, because it feels like my body is accommodating a larger quantity of blood to be sent towards my penis from sexual stimulation with that feeling. It feels like an involuntary contraction, but I hope to find better words in the future for it, and of course find out exactly what it is and what it does.

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I'll keep up with the stretching, it feels good, gains will come. Time off from stretching and coming back to it might also be a reason for that feeling I get.

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The grip is not my limiting factor without any baby powder, like it should be.
The thing that stops me from stretching at my best is the skin right beneath the glans and the frenulum itself. Since my frenulum "snapped" a couple of times now, once during edging after some serious pumping, once during sex, it's better for stretching grip purposes.
Anyway, it seems my unit is responding well to these 10-15sec ocasional hard stretches I've been performing. The grip will get better with time, so will the skin beneath the glans stretch in order for me to grip better, it happened before.
What I do see now and wasn't seeing in the beginning *2018* is the glans texture/head reaction to my grip. I grip the glans directly, pulling it and anchoring the grip in the middle of it, squeezing a little, and it seems to give out some glans girth maybe, or at least the corona seems to be more pronounced after a good stretch. It also has a lighter colour, it doesn't get bruised as easily, but I think it might also have something to do with the fact that I think I finally cemented a few more mm in girth from the base towards the upper shaft, more towards the upper shaft lately because I've been really kegelling to get blood there during my sets.

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Btw, I would start a thread with this, but I'll post it on my progress thread instead, because it's important for my progress.
Many have doubted Bib for not gaining 4" in bpel, but I'm starting to see how that is possible.
Michael Chapman, the pornstar from legalporno, he clearly has at least 2" of visible stretched lig when his penis is straight out from his basic erection angle, I guess it's that or even higher than 90 degrees. He has, from what I can tell at least, more than 3" of visible stretched lig when his penis is hanging down while erect.
So to me that's the evidence, plus these other 2 factors.
I get a different feeling stretching the lower base and it clearly appears to be a portion of the penis, in my case, that stretches "on it's own", sort of, without pulling the glans. I think Saiyan22/Kingsnake was very right with his approach of hanging above the 90 degree angle, laying on his back with his knees bent. That's the way I pump for length, I pull the cylinder towards the navel and do a good RK for length expansion, and it always works! He even pointed out in paint, with some red arrows, the area he was under the impression was giving him gains at some point in his log, plus skin gains with a turtle neck, and he was right from what I can tell now looking at that pornstar I mentioned, that guy actually makes it the most obvious of them all.
I could also hang better and have better EQ grabbing the lower base.
I am contemplating a way to get back to hanging from the base, but so far, I need a real hanger.
I started using the vac hanger with 1kg again, pulling the skin below the glans as far back as I can, in order to grip the glans effectively and condition that area, stretch the skin, in order to have a better grip when pulling for bpfsl gains and, maybe, some CS gains right under the glans, that area where it curves down has always been kind of soft and lacking, not even sure why, maybe it's the curve that's not allowing proper circulation, idk.

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and, maybe, some CS gains right under the glans, that area where it curves down has always been kind of soft and lacking, not even sure why, maybe it's the curve that's not allowing proper circulation, idk.

I say this because it feels like a good constant pull, at the right tension maybe, or maybe not and a higher tension would be great as well, it leaves me with better circulation in that area after some time doing it.
I managed 45min with 1kg and maybe 3min of actual stretching yesterday, 10-20 sec stretches, the intense stretches were done for 15 sec at most, that's all I can for now. I started logging my time in a new notebook, wich I mostly write the amount of time I perform sets and reps. I started taking more notes than I was, kegels during the day, observations and things that maybe I could've done to make progress more easily, and other things like what supplements, something special I ate and made me feel good during that day. Nothing too fancy, I only concentrate on gains, time and methods that worked best. Constant ruler measurements everyday too, I'll start pumping only when I've made a visible increase in fsl, bone pressing is starting to piss me off so I started measuring without pressing when doing a ruler stretch. I simply search for a point above the base of the penis where I can repeatedly place the ruler the same everytime.

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5-6hg with a proper grip, gripping the hole base from the deepest point, allows me to perform short RK flexes that bounce the tube up and down. So I'm bouncing using the BC, not the usual IC. Oh, and they feel awesome.